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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`CANON U.S.A., INC.
`Petitioner
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`vs.
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`CELLSPIN SOFT, INC.,
`Patent Owner
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`CASE: IPR2019-001271
`Patent No. 9,258,698
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`PATENT OWNER CELLSPIN’S REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
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`1 GoPro, Inc., Garmin International, Inc. and Garmin USA, Inc. were joined
`as parties to this proceeding. Paper 27.
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70 and the Board’s April 29, 2019, Scheduling Order (Paper 8),
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`Patent Owner Cellspin Soft, Inc. respectfully requests oral argument, which is currently scheduled
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`for January 28, 2020. Patent Owner requests that the oral hearing be held at the United States
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`Patent and Trademark Office headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia. The parties conferred and each
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`has requested 60 minutes for each side at the oral hearing in this IPR2019-00127 proceeding (i.e.,
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`60 minutes for each of Patent Owner and Petitioner Canon (totaling 120 minutes) relative to issues
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`in and specific to this IPR2019-00127). The foregoing does not include time to be devoted to oral
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`argument in the separate IPR2019-00131 proceeding.
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70, Patent Owner specifies the following issues to be argued:
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`1.
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`Whether Petitioner has carried its burden to prove that claims 1-22 of U.S. Patent
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`No. 9,258,698 (the “’698 patent) are unpatentable over the combinations of Hiroishi, Takahashi,
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`Nozaki, and Ando based upon the theories and grounds asserted in Petitioner’s Petition (Paper 1)
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`for which the Board Instituted Inter Partes Review (Paper 7), which encompass each of the claim
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`construction and patentability issues addressed in the Petitioner’s Petition, Patent Owner’s
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`Response and Patent Owner’s Sur-Reply (but see non-waiver of objections noted in #12 below).
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`The Board’s Institution Order (Paper 7) summarizes the asserted combinations as follows:
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`Ground
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`References
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`Basis
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`1
`2
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`3
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`4
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`5
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`6
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`Hiroishi and Takahashi
`Hiroishi, Takahashi, and
`Ando
`Hiroishi, Takahashi, and
`Nozaki
`Hiroishi, Takahashi, Nozaki,
`and Ando
`Hollstrom and Takahashi
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`Hollstrom, Takahashi, and
`Ando
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`§ 103
`§ 103
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`§ 103
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`§ 103
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`§ 103
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`§ 103
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`Claims
`Challenged
`1–20
`21, 22
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`1–22
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`21, 22
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`1, 3–5, 7, 8, 10-
`13, 15–20
`2, 6, 9, 14, 21,
`22
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`2. The claim construction issues noted in #1 include whether the following terms should
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`be construed as Patent Owner has requested, including in the following summary chart:
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`Term
`paired connection
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`definitions for
`pair/pairing/paired)
`cryptographically
`authenticated
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`definitions for
`cryptographic/
`cryptography and
`authenticate/
`authentication)
`graphical user
`interface
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`Construction under BRI
`bidirectional communications link between devices which provides
`encrypted data exchange between the devices, and the
`communication link can be disconnected and reconnected without
`having to repeat pairing or authentication
`verified as a legitimate transmission, user, or system including by
`use of encryption and decryption involving an algorithm
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`an interface through which a user interacts with electronic devices
`such as computers, hand-held devices and other appliances. This
`interface uses icons, menus and other visual indicator (graphics)
`representations to display information and related user controls,
`unlike text-based interfaces, where data and commands are in text.
`GUI representations are manipulated by a pointing device such as a
`mouse, trackball, stylus, or a finger on a touch screen
`in addition to
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`along with
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`3.
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`Whether the Board should grant or deny either side’s Motion to Strike and/or
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`Exclude, including argument to be presented on either side’s motions and oppositions;
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`4.
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` Whether, irrespective of whether the Board grants Patent Owner’s Motion to Strike
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`and/or Exclude, it should disregard theories, positions, arguments, and evidence untimely and
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`improperly raised in and with Petitioner’s Reply in violation of 37 C.F.R. §42.23(b), including as
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`set forth in Patent Owner’s Objections at Paper 25, in Patent Owner’s submission to be made on
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`December 18th, and in Patent Owner’s to be filed Motions to Strike and/or Exclude.
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`5.
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`Whether granting Petitioner’s Motion to Strike and/or Exclude in whole or part
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`would result in a violation of Patent Owner’s due process rights, including as noted in Patent
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`Owner’s submission at Paper .
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`6.
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`To the extent that the Board does not issue a ruling on pending Motions to
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`Strike/Exclude, Cellspin specifies argument on all issues raised in its Response and Sur-Reply, as
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`well as in the Exhibits thereto, including the Response and Sur-Reply Declarations of Dr. Michael
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`Foley at Exs. 2009 and 2026 (but see non-waiver of objections noted in #12 below).
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`7.
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`Whether this proceeding and/or the decisions arising therefrom constitute an
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`unconstitutional taking and a due process violation (on account of retroactive application of the
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`IPR statute) and/or a violation of the Constitution’s appointments clause, including as already
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`noted and briefed in Patent Owner’s Response and Sur-Reply.
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`8.
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`9.
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`Argument on all issues specified by Petitioner and/or the Board for argument.
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`Rebuttal to Petitioner’s presentation on all matters;
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`10.
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`Any other issues raised in other motions or papers filed and/or to be filed in this
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`proceeding, including any Motions to Strike/Exclude and/or Oppositions to Motions to
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`Strike/Exclude; and/or objections to demonstrative exhibits, and/or any other motion or paper filed
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`by any party before oral argument.
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`11.
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`Any other outstanding motions and pleadings, and other issues upon which the
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`Board seeks clarification and/or that the Board deems necessary for issuing a Final Written
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`Decision.
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`12.
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`The issues noted above are stated without prejudice to Patent Owner’s objections
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`to Patent Owner’s Objections at Paper 25, Patent Owner’s upcoming submission on December
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`18th, and Patent Owner’s to be filed Motions to Strike and/or Exclude. Specifically, to the extent
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`that the Board has, will or may strike or exclude theories, positions, arguments, and evidence
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`untimely and improperly raised in and with Petitioner’s Reply in violation of 37 C.F.R. §42.23(b),
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`Patent Owner’s present request to argue issues addressed in and with its Sur-Reply does not
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`constitute a waiver of objections to issues improperly or un timely being asserted in and with
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`Petitioner’s Reply, or a waiver of such issues improper and/or untimely issues improperly being
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`considered, and/or the basis of any ruling of unpatentability, by the Board.
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`Patent Owner requests the ability to use and provision of audio-visual equipment to display
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`possible demonstratives and exhibits, including an ELMO, projector, and screen. Patent Owner
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`requests that five spaces be reserved at the oral hearing to accommodate its counsel and corporate
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`representative. Patent Owner requests that its counsel be allowed to use computers at counsel’s
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`table, including for consultation and running audio visual presentations.
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` No fees are required for filing this request; however, the Commissioner is authorized to
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`charge Deposit Account No. 506574.
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` If the Board has any questions, comments, or suggestions, the undersigned requests a
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`telephone conference regarding same.
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`Dated: December 17, 2019
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`/s/ John J. Edmonds
`John J. Edmonds, Reg. No. 56,184
`EDMONDS & SCHLATHER, PLLC
`355 South Grand Avenue, Suite 2450
`Los Angeles, CA 90071
`Telephone: 213-973-7846
`Facsimile: 213-835-6996
`Email: jedmonds@ip-lit.com
`pto-edmonds@ip-lit.com
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`Stephen F. Schlather, Reg. No. 45,081
`EDMONDS & SCHLATHER, PLLC
`2501 Saltus Street
`Houston, TX 77003
`P: 713-234-0044
`F: 713-224-6651
`E: sschlather@ip-lit.com
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`Certificate of Service
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`I hereby certify that this PATENT OWNER’S AMENDED EXHIBIT LIST is being served on
`December 17, 2019 by electronic mail and PTAB ECF to the following:
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`jarednewton@quinnemaneul.com
`Jennifer.Bailey@eriseip.com
`Adam.Seitz@eriseip.com
`PTAB@eriseip.com
`karinehk@rimonlaw.com
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`Dated: December 17, 2019
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`/s/ John J. Edmonds
`John J. Edmonds
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`Counsel for Owner,
`Cellspin Soft, Inc.
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