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`Elias Zerhouni - Sanofi - President - Global Research & Development
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`Right, so dengue is different in its pathway of approvals.
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`Eric Le Berrigaud - Bryan, Garnier & Company - Analyst
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`So precisely the second question relates to PCSK-9.The target per se looks very much interesting, but what could you say already about safety and
`in terms of injection site reaction, whether you see anything? And whether your own formulation is already into early stage development?
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`Elias Zerhouni - Sanofi - President - Global Research & Development
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`No, no, the overall formulation is pretty -- we clearly understand that. We wouldn't be going Phase III in three months if we didn't have that. The
`device is something, the dosing we're pretty clear on what needs to done.
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`In terms of safety I don't know if you went to AHA, but we did report at the AHA that immunology (inaudible). And we don't see that in the Phase
`II trials.We had one skin reaction, and unclear whether it's the product or something else. So it looks extremely safe from the current data that we
`have.
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`No increase in other parameters that would say oh, there is a counterbalancing effect or lowering for example in HDL or something like this that
`typically you'd worry about. So right now we are quite comfortable with the safety profile.We'll find out in Phase III.
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`Eric Le Berrigaud - Bryan, Garnier & Company - Analyst
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`Okay. Last one in terms of dividend, do you plan as last year to pay too for the possibility for the dividend to be paid in shares?
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`Jerome Contamine - Sanofi - EVP, CFO
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`No.
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`Sebastien Martel - Sanofi - VP - IR
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`It was a quick one. Maybe we will take questions here from Alexandra Hauber, second row.
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`Alexandra Hauber - JPMorgan - Analyst
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`Thank you. I have several questions. Question for Hanspeter first. I think it was said in the press release that this solostar conversion is now up to
`50% up from 40%. Is that going fairly smooth and are you confident you can sort of increase that penetration every year by ten percentage points
`so that by 2014, '15 we should be at this sort of 80%, 90%? And what are you actually doing to make sure that that's happening?
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`And then second question is just around the topic of pens. Have you finally defined which device you're going to take into the Phase III for the
`lixisenatide combination? Are you still pursuing the version that both components can be titrated? And then also -- I'll save that one later if you
`want to take the questions one by one.
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`Hanspeter Spek - Sanofi - President - Global Operations
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`I will take conversion. Yes, I think 40% is not a better size. You will remember it was a matter totally dominated by cartridge so that's already the
`answer to the second part of the question, what do we do? We favor everything commercially from a promotional point of view, which goes into
`conversion and we de-favor anything which would keep the market on cartridges.
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`Can we bring the market to 100%? I don't think so, because I think as we grow we are right. Would you like to grow faster? Yes. Yes, perhaps on
`the other side we have to see that there is still a market of non-pens where we also have to continue to make offers with Lantus that are not in
`pens. But I think 40% today -- 50% today where we have been I think in 2005 or 2006, 10% or 15%, it's a good rate.
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`Chris Viehbacher - Sanofi - CEO
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`I think it's fair to say that we have really increased our efforts in this in the last two years and that includes pricing and other commercial terms in
`addition to promotion.
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`Elias Zerhouni - Sanofi - President - Global Research & Development
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`Absolutely, we are continuing with the development of devices that could give you fixed flex so that you can titrate the insulin where we think it's
`important for patients. I don't think you have the ability -- I mean, the fixed flex for us works well, because lixisenatide has a fixed dose. It's either
`10 or 20, so there is not a lot of complexity to that, but we have -- this is what we pursue. I mean, we have a devices for sort of back up and aiming
`for starting Phase III with a commercial device in 2013.
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`Alexandra Hauber - JPMorgan - Analyst
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`But it's still not finalized since it's only in the year where are you initiating, or have you nailed it now?
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`Elias Zerhouni - Sanofi - President - Global Research & Development
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`Pretty much. I mean, all you have to do all the PK/PD trials obviously for that before you start your Phase III. So we're ongoing through that and we
`have primary devices back like every development plan.
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`Chris Viehbacher - Sanofi - CEO
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`So in other words, to be clear, the device is fixed.There is a backup device, so we are not tinkering with the device at this stage.
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`Elias Zerhouni - Sanofi - President - Global Research & Development
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`Yes, we are just making sure.
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`Chris Viehbacher - Sanofi - CEO
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`We are going through the PK/PD studies in the device to make sure it's valid and we are able to get authorization to go into Phase III with it.
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