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` Paper No. 33
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` Entered: October 22, 2019
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`NEPTUNE GENERICS LLC
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`CORCEPT THERAPEUTICS, INC
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2018-01494
`Patent 8,921,348 B2
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`Before TINA E. HULSE, ROBERT A. POLLOCK and DAVID COTTA,
`Administrative Patent Judges.
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`COTTA, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Oral Hearing
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70 and the Board’s Scheduling Order
`(Paper 12), Neptune Generics LLC (“Petitioner”) and Corcept Therapeutics,
`Inc. (“Patent Owner”) have each requested an oral hearing for the above-
`captioned proceeding. Paper 31, 1; Paper 32, 1. The requests for oral
`argument are granted, subject to the terms and conditions set forth below.
`Oral arguments will commence at 1:00 PM Eastern Time on November 19,
`2019, on the 9th floor of Madison Building East, 600 Dulany Street,
`Alexandria, Virginia.
`The Board ordinarily provides an hour of argument per side for a
`single proceeding. See Trial Practice Guide Update (Aug. 2018), 19.
`Petitioner requests that it be given sixty (60) minutes to present its
`arguments. Paper 32, 2. Patent Owner requests that it be given ninety (90)
`minutes, but offers no explanation for why it needs an additional 30 minutes
`of oral argument. Paper 31, 1. Given that the hearing is for a single
`proceeding regarding seven claims, we see no reason to deviate from the
`standard one hour of argument. Thus, each party will have sixty (60)
`minutes of total time to present their arguments. Petitioner bears the
`ultimate burden of proof to show that the patent claims at issue are
`unpatentable. Therefore, Petitioner will open the hearing by presenting its
`case regarding the challenged claims for which we instituted trial. Petitioner
`may reserve some of its argument time for rebuttal. Patent Owner will then
`respond to Petitioner’s arguments. Next, Petitioner may use any time it has
`reserved for rebuttal to respond to Patent Owner’s arguments. Lastly, Patent
`Owner may use any time it has reserved for sur-rebuttal to respond to
`Petitioner’s arguments made during rebuttal.
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`The Board will provide a court reporter for the hearing and the
`reporter’s transcript shall constitute the official record of the hearing. The
`hearing will be open to the public for in-person attendance that will be
`accommodated on a first-come, first-served basis. The record does not
`contain information designated as confidential. Accordingly, neither party is
`authorized to disclose confidential information during the hearing, which
`shall remain open to the public for its duration.
`Demonstrative exhibits are not evidence sufficient to prove underlying
`facts, but, rather, serve as visual aids to facilitate the presentation of
`argument at an oral hearing. See Duncan v. Dep’t of the Air Force, 674 F.3d
`1359, 1363 (Fed. Cir. 2012) (discussing the nature and proper purpose of
`demonstrative exhibits). Demonstrative exhibits must not include new
`evidence and each must include citations to the record sufficient to establish
`that the exhibit contains no new argument or evidence not already of record
`in the proceeding(s) in which it is offered. The parties are directed to serve
`demonstrative exhibits on opposing counsel at least five (5) business days
`before the hearing date. The parties shall also provide a courtesy copy of
`any demonstrative exhibits to the Board at least three (3) business days prior
`to the hearing by emailing them to Trials@uspto.gov. The parties shall not
`file demonstrative exhibits in the record of these proceedings. Each
`party shall provide a hard copy of its demonstrative exhibits to the court
`reporter at the hearing.
`The Board expects that the parties will meet and confer in good faith
`to resolve any objections to demonstrative exhibits, but if such objections
`cannot be resolved, the parties may file any objections to demonstrative
`exhibits with the Board at least three (3) business days before the hearing.
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`Any objection to demonstrative exhibits that is not timely presented will be
`considered waived. The objections should identify with particularity which
`demonstratives are subject to objection and include a short (one sentence or
`less) statement of the reason for each objection. No argument or further
`explanation is permitted. The Board will consider the objections and
`schedule a conference call if deemed necessary. Otherwise, the Board will
`reserve ruling on the objections until the oral argument. The parties are
`directed to St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Division, Inc. v. The Board of
`Regents of the University of Michigan, IPR2013-00041 (PTAB January 27,
`2014) (Paper 65), for guidance regarding the appropriate content of
`demonstrative exhibits.
`The parties should be prepared for the possibility that at least one
`member of the panel may attend the hearing electronically from a remote
`location and may not be able to view the projection screen in the hearing
`room. Any demonstrative exhibit that cannot made available or visible to
`the judge(s) presiding remotely should not be presented during the hearing.
`Counsel must identify clearly and specifically each demonstrative exhibit
`(e.g., by slide or screen number) referenced during the hearing to ensure the
`clarity and accuracy of the reporter’s transcript and for the benefit of the
`judge(s) presiding over the hearing remotely.
`The Board expects lead counsel for each party to be present in person.
`However, any counsel of record may present the party’s argument. If either
`party expects that its lead counsel will not attend the hearing, the parties
`should initiate a joint telephone conference with the Board no later than
`two (2) business days prior to the date of the hearing to discuss the matter.
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`A party may request remote video attendance for one or more of its
`other attendees to view the hearing from any USPTO location. The
`available locations include the Texas Regional Office in Dallas, Texas; the
`Rocky Mountain Regional Office in Denver, Colorado; the Elijah J. McCoy
`Midwest Regional Office in Detroit, Michigan; and the Silicon Valley Office
`in San Jose, CA. To request remote video viewing, a party must send an
`email message to Trials@uspto.gov ten business days prior to the hearing,
`indicating the requested location and the number planning to view the
`hearing from the remote location. The Board will notify the parties if the
`request for video viewing is granted. Note that it may not be possible to
`grant the request due to the availability of resources.
`Both parties request permission to use certain audio/visual equipment
`to display exhibits during the oral hearing. Paper 31, 1; Paper 32, 3. Those
`requests, and any other special requests for audiovisual equipment, should
`be directed to Trials@uspto.gov. Requests for special equipment will not be
`honored unless presented in a separate communication not less than five
`days (5) before the hearing, directed to the above email address.
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`PETITIONER:
`Kenneth Goldman
`Christopher L. May
`Leonard A. Gail
`MASSEY & GAIL LLP
`kgoldman@masseygail.com
`cmay@masseygail.com
`lgail@masseygail.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
`Robert Steinberg
`David P. Frazier
`Michelle L. Ernst
`LATHAM & WATKINS LLP
`bob.steinberg@lw.com
`david.frazier@lw.com
`michelle.ernst@lw.com
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