`571-272-7822
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`Paper 21
`Entered: May 10, 2019
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`GOOGLE LLC,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`CYWEE GROUP LTD.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2018-01257 (Patent 8,552,978 B2)
` Case IPR2018-01258 (Patent 8,441,438 B2)1
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`Before PATRICK M. BOUCHER, KAMRAN JIVANI, and
`CHRISTOPHER L. OGDEN, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`BOUCHER, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Conduct of the Proceeding
`37 C.F.R. §§ 42.5, 42.51(b)(2)
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`1 The parties are not authorized to use this style of caption.
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`IPR2018-01257 (Patent 8,552,978 B2)
`IPR2018-01258 (Patent 8,441,438 B2)
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`On May 8, 2019, a conference call was conducted with counsel for the
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`parties. During the call, we reminded Patent Owner that email requests for
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`conference calls should be limited to a brief statement of the nature of its
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`request, without attorney argument. See, e.g., Metrics, Inc. v. Senju
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`Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd., Case IPR2014-01041, slip op. at 2 (PTAB Sept. 9,
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`2014) (Paper 11) (“Th[e] email shall also fairly describe the nub of the
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`dispute, providing the facts and authority that relate to the dispute, without
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`attorney argument.”).
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`Patent Owner requests authorization for supplemental briefing and
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`additional discovery that it believes is warranted by the Board’s recent
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`designation of certain decisions as precedential, particularly Ventex Co., Ltd.
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`v. Columbia Sportswear North America, Inc., Case IPR2017-00651, slip op.
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`(PTAB Jan. 24, 2019) (Paper 148) (precedential). That case, and others
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`recently designated as precedential, relates to issues regarding real parties in
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`interest and privies in the context of 35 U.S.C. §§ 312(a)(2) and 315(b).
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`According to Patent Owner, Ventex considered a situation similar to facts in
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`these proceedings, in which other accused infringers have a pre-existing
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`contractual relationship that may compel a conclusion that they are unnamed
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`real parties in interest or privies with Petitioner in the context of these
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`proceedings.
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`Petitioner opposes the request, contending that it is both untimely and
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`substantively defective. According to Petitioner, Ventex was an application
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`of principles set forth by the Federal Circuit in Applications in Internet Time,
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`LLC v. RPX Corp., 897 F.3d 1336 (Fed. Cir. 2018) (“AIT”). Because AIT
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`was decided by the Federal Circuit in July 2018, well before the Board
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`decided Ventex or designated Ventex precedential, Petitioner contends that
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`IPR2018-01257 (Patent 8,552,978 B2)
`IPR2018-01258 (Patent 8,441,438 B2)
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`Patent Owner reasonably should have known of those principles and
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`presented its argument sooner. Petitioner also contends that any contractual
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`relationship with unnamed parties is different in character than the
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`contractual relationship at issue in Ventex.
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`No court reporter was present on the call. The panel determines that it
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`would be productive to have the parties’ arguments in writing and on the
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`record of these proceedings. Accordingly, we authorize Patent Owner to file
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`a motion for additional discovery pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.51(b)(2). In its
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`motion, Patent Owner should address the factors set forth in Garmin Int’l,
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`Inc. v. Cuozzo Speed Techs. LLC, Case IPR2012-00001, slip op. at 6–7
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`(PTAB Mar. 5, 2013) (Paper 26). In addition, the motion should address the
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`timeliness of Patent Owner’s request, particularly as related to the Board’s
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`recent designation of decisions as precedential and how the facts of Ventex
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`relate to the facts at issue here. Petitioner is authorized to oppose the
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`motion, and Patent Owner is authorized to reply, as set forth below. The
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`parties may submit nontestimonial evidence that elucidates the factual
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`relationship with Ventex.
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`It is
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`ORDERED that Patent Owner is authorized to file a motion for
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`additional discovery as set forth above, limited to ten pages, by May 21,
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`2019;
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`FURTHER ORDERED that Petitioner is authorized to file an
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`opposition to Patent Owner’s motion, limited to ten pages, by May 28, 2019;
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`IPR2018-01257 (Patent 8,552,978 B2)
`IPR2018-01258 (Patent 8,441,438 B2)
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`FURTHER ORDERED that Patent Owner is authorized to file a reply
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`to Petitioner’s opposition, limited to three pages, by June 3, 2019.
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`IPR2018-01257 (Patent 8,552,978 B2)
`IPR2018-01258 (Patent 8,441,438 B2)
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`PETITIONER:
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`Matthew A. Smith
`Andrew S. Baluch
`SMITH BALUCH LLP
`smith@smithbaluch.com
`baluch@smithbaluch.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
`Jay P. Kesan
`DIMURO GINSBERG PC-DGKEYIP GROUP
`jkesan@dimuro.com
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