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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`APPLE INC.,
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`QUALCOMM INCORPORATED,
`Patent Owner
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`Case IPR2018-01249
`Patent 7,693,002
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`PETITIONER’S REPLY TO PATENT OWNER’S OPPOSITION TO
`PETITIONER’S MOTION TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE
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`Proceeding No.: IPR2018-01249
`Attorney Docket: 39521-0054IP1 
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`TABLE OF CONTENTS
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`INTRODUCTION ........................................................................................... 1
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`I. 
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`A.
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`EXHIBIT 2004 IS INADMISSIBLE UNDER FRE 702 ................................ 2
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`EXHIBIT 2004 IS INADMISSIBLE UNDER FRE 802 ................................ 3
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`EXHIBIT 2004 IS INADMISSIBLE UNDER FRE 402 ................................ 5
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`CONCLUSION ................................................................................................ 5
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`B.
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`C.
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`II.
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`I.
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`INTRODUCTION
`Patent Owner’s Opposition does not challenge the substance of Petitioner’s
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`objections: FRE 702 and 802 prohibit a party from relying on hearsay statements of
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`an individual who had never looked at the ’002 patent as reliable expert testimony
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`on the meaning of a claim term of the ’002 patent. Instead, Patent Owner sidesteps
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`the issue by mischaracterizing its reliance on Exhibit 2004 as extremely limited: only
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`to the fact that certain statements were made, and not for the truth of their substance.
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`Opposition, 2 (“…his testimony is evidence that Qualcomm’s reliance on the IEEE
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`dictionary definition would not be unreasonable to a POSA”).
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`Patent Owner’s characterization of its reliance on Exhibit 2004 as so limited
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`cannot be reconciled with the record of these proceedings. Patent Owner has
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`repeatedly attempted to rely on the substance of the statements in the Exhibit as
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`evidence of the meaning of “clock” to a POSA. See POR, 14-15; Sur-Reply, 10.
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`[A]ddressing the meaning of the term “clock,” Dr. Alpert told the
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`Board that the term “clock” should be interpreted as “a periodic
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`signal used for synchronization.” Ex. 2004 at 3-4. Dr. Alpert stated
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`that the “definition [‘a periodic signal used for synchronization’] is
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`consistent with the broadest reasonable interpretation of the term
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`[‘clock’].” Id. Dr. Alpert’s Statement provides further support for
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`Qualcomm’s proposed construction.
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`POR, 15. Patent Owner likewise argued in its Sur-Reply that the substance
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`of Dr. Alpert’s analysis was relevant to the meaning of “clock signal” in this
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`proceeding because “Dr. Alpert did not qualify his opinion on the meaning
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`of ‘clock’ to indicate that it was specific to that previous proceeding or
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`the patent involved therein.” Sur-Reply, 10.
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`Even in its Opposition to Petitioner’s Motion to Exclude, Patent Owner
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`admits that it relies on the statements in the Exhibit for their substance, as
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`“plainly relevant to the meaning of the claim term as understood by a POSA.”
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`Opposition, 3; see also id., 2 (describing Exhibit 2004 as “extrinsic evidence
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`that Apple’s proposed definition for a term is not the broadest reasonable
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`interpretation understood by a POSA.”) Thus, Patent Owner has repeatedly
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`relied on Exhibit 2004 both (a) for the truth of the statements contained
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`therein, and (b) as evidence of how a POSA would interpret a claim term.
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`Both uses are precluded by the Federal Rules of Evidence. FRE 702, 802.
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`A. EXHIBIT 2004 IS INADMISSIBLE UNDER FRE 702
`Patent Owner’s representation that “Exhibit 2004 is not being provided as
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`expert testimony” (Opposition, 2) is contradicted by its own arguments. Patent
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`Owner admittedly seeks to rely on Alpert’s “opinion on the meaning of ‘clock’”
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`and “the meaning of the [term clock] as understood by a POSA.” Sur-Reply, 10;
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`Opposition, 3. Patent Owner’s characterization of the opinions in Exhibit 2004 as
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`generic is a misrepresentation; as explained in Petitioner’s Motion, the opinions in
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`Exhibit 2004 are specific to a different patent and a different proceeding. But even
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`accepting Patent Owner’s characterizations, Patent Owner cannot rely on the
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`“opinions” in Exhibit 2004 without first establishing that those opinions are reliably
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`based on the facts of the present case: the applicable POSA, at the applicable time
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`period, based on the applicable intrinsic record. Patent Owner made no attempt to
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`do so, instead effectively conceding that Exhibit 2004 does not constitute reliable
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`expert testimony as to the proper interpretation of “clock signal” in the ’002 patent.
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`Opposition, 2 (“Qualcomm does not offer Exhibit 2004 as expert testimony—the
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`contents of Exhibit 2004 were prepared for a different proceeding, as Apple notes.”)
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`Exhibit 2004 includes no analysis of how the applicable POSA, reading
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`the ’002 patent at the applicable time, would interpret the term “clock signal” in the
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`context of the ’002 patent. Thus, those opinions are not reliable expert testimony in
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`this proceeding, and should be excluded under FRE 702.
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`B. EXHIBIT 2004 IS INADMISSIBLE UNDER FRE 802
`As demonstrated above, Patent Owner has consistently relied on Exhibit 2004
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`for the truth of the matter asserted: how a POSA would interpret the term “clock.”
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`Thus, the Exhibit is inadmissible under FRE 802.
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`Patent Owner’s response to Petitioner’s motion is nonsensical. Patent Owner
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`claims that it relies on Exhibit 2004 for the limited purpose of evidence that another
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`person at another point in time has relied on an IEEE dictionary. But Petitioner does
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`not challenge Patent Owner’s ability to introduce the IEEE dictionary into the record
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`of these proceedings.
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`Patent Owner’s case law discussion is likewise entirely off-point and
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`nonresponsive. Exhibit 2004 is not prior art that was available to a POSA “at the
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`relevant time.” Opposition, 3; cf. EMC Corp. v. PersonalWeb Techs., LLC,
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`IPR2013-00084, 2014 WL 2090663, at *13, *23-26 (PTAB May 15, 2014)
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`(discussing whether a manual for a shareware software program posted to an
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`electronic Bulletin Board System is a “printed publication” under 35 U.S.C.
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`§ 102(b)). Exhibit 2004 also is not the inventor’s own explanation of the state of the
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`art at the time of his or her own invention. Neev v. AbbottMed. Optics, Inc., No. 09-
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`146 RBK, 2012 WL 1066797, at *13-14 (D. Del. Mar. 26, 2012) (discussing that the
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`inventor’s own discussion of the state of the art presented in “Plaintiff’s Opening
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`Markman Brief” were offered for their effect on a POSA and not to prove the novelty
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`of the invention). Instead, it is an expert declaration prepared in a different
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`proceeding for a different patent more than eight years after the filing date of
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`the ’002 patent. Thus, the District Court and PTAB decisions that Patent Owner
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`cites are simply irrelevant.
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`Exhibit 2004 is testimony submitted during a different proceeding related to
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`a different patent, yet relied upon in this proceeding for the truth of its statements
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`about how a POSA would interpret the term “clock.” Thus, those statements are
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`hearsay, and should be excluded under FRE 802. US Endodontics, LLC v. Gold
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`Standard Instruments, LLC, PGR2015-00019, Paper 54, 38-42, (PTAB 2016).
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`C. EXHIBIT 2004 IS INADMISSIBLE UNDER FRE 402
`Patent Owner’s argument for the relevance of Exhibit 2004 only serves to
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`highlight its reliance on the truth of the testimony provided therein. If, as Patent
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`Owner contends, “Dr. Alpert’s testimony is plainly relevant to the meaning of the
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`claim term as understood by a POSA” (Opposition, 3) then it is inadmissible under
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`either or both FRE 702 and 802 for the reasons set forth above and in Petitioner’s
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`Motion. The Exhibit cannot, at the same time, both be relevant to proving the truth
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`of how a POSA would have interpreted a claim term, yet only be relied upon to
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`support the use of a particular dictionary. Patent Owner’s attempt to salvage Exhibit
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`2004 only emphasizes its inadmissibility.
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`II. CONCLUSION
`For the foregoing reasons, Petitioner requests that the evidence discussed
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`above be excluded.
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`      Respectfully submitted,
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` /Kenneth J. Hoover/
`W. Karl Renner, Reg. No. 41,265
`Thomas A. Rozylowicz, Reg. No. 50,620
`Timothy W. Riffe, Reg. No. 43,881
`Kenneth J. Hoover, Reg. No. 68,116
`Whitney A. Reichel, Reg. No 59,173
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`Counsel for Petitioner
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`Date: September 30, 2019
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`Proceeding No.: IPR2018-01249
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Pursuant to 37 CFR § 42.8(b), the undersigned certifies that on September
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`30, 2019, a complete and entire copy of this Petitioner’s Reply To Patent Owner’s
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`Opposition To Petitioner’s Motion To Exclude Evidence was provided via email to
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`the Patent Owner by serving the correspondence email addresses of record as
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