`Tel: 571-272-7822
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`Paper 40
`Entered: August 26, 2019
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`NETFLIX, INC., ARRIS SOLUTIONS, INC., and
`COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS, LLC
`Petitioner,
`v.
`REALTIME ADAPTIVE STREAMING, LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2018-01169
`Patent 8,934,535 B2
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`Before KEVIN W. CHERRY, GARTH D. BAER, and
`NABEEL U. KHAN, Administrative Patent Judges.
`KHAN, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Trial Hearing
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
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`Petitioner and Patent Owner request oral hearings in this proceeding
`pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(a). Papers 38, 39. Petitioner and Patent
`Owner both request 60 minutes total to be allocated for each party. See
`Papers 38, 39.
`We have reviewed the issues that the parties intend to address and
`agree that 60 minutes will be sufficient for each side to argue their case.
`Each party will therefore be permitted 60 minutes total to present its
`arguments.
`The hearing will commence at 12:30 PM Eastern Time on September
`4, 2019. The oral hearing will be open to the public for in-person attendance
`on the ninth floor of Madison Building East, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria,
`Virginia. Space in the hearing room is limited, and any attendees beyond six
`per party (including any attorneys who may be appearing) will be
`accommodated on a first-come, first-served basis.
`Petitioner will first present its case as to the challenged claims and
`grounds with respect to which we instituted trials. Petitioner may reserve
`rebuttal time. Thereafter, Patent Owner will argue its opposition to
`Petitioner’s case. Petitioner then may use any time it reserved for rebuttal,
`responding to Patent Owner’s specific arguments presented at the oral
`hearing. Patent Owner will be permitted the opportunity to present a brief
`sur-rebuttal, if requested, and if a brief time period has been reserved.
`At least six (6) business days prior to the oral arguments, each party
`shall serve on the other party any demonstrative exhibit(s) it intends to use
`during the oral arguments. See 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b). The parties shall
`confer with each other regarding any objections to demonstrative exhibits,
`and file demonstrative exhibits with the Board, as a separate exhibit in
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`accordance with 37 C.F.R. § 42.63, at least four business days prior to the
`hearing.
`Demonstrative exhibits are not evidence, but merely are a visual aid at
`the oral arguments. Demonstrative exhibits may not introduce new evidence
`or raise new arguments, but instead should cite to evidence in the record.
`The parties are directed to St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Division, Inc. v. The
`Board of Regents of the University of Michigan, Case IPR2013-00041
`(PTAB Jan. 27, 2014) (Paper 65) and CBS Interactive Inc. v. Helferich
`Patent Licensing, LLC, IPR2013-00033, (PTAB Oct. 23, 2013) (Paper 118),
`for guidance regarding the appropriate content of demonstrative exhibits.
`The parties should attempt to resolve any objections to demonstratives
`prior to involving the Board. For any issue that cannot be resolved after
`conferring with the opposing party, the parties may email jointly to
`Trials@uspto.gov a one-page list of objections at least four business days
`prior to the hearing. The list should identify with particularity which
`demonstrative exhibits are subject to objection and include a short statement
`(no more than one short sentence) of the reason for each objection. No
`argument or further explanation is permitted. We will consider the
`objections and schedule a conference call, if necessary. Otherwise, we may
`consider the objections at or after the hearing. Any unresolved objections to
`demonstrative exhibits not timely presented will be considered waived.
`To aid in the preparation of an accurate transcript, each party shall
`provide paper copies of its demonstratives to the court reporter on the day of
`the oral arguments. Such paper copies shall not become part of the record of
`this proceeding. The parties are reminded that each presenter must identify
`clearly and specifically each demonstrative exhibit (e.g., by slide or screen
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`number), paper, or exhibit referenced during the oral arguments to ensure the
`clarity and accuracy of the reporter’s transcript.
`We expect lead counsel for each party to be present at oral hearing,
`although any backup counsel may make the actual presentation, in whole or
`in part. If lead counsel for either party will not be in attendance at the oral
`hearing, we should be notified via email communications no later than two
`(2) business days prior to the oral hearing.
`Lead counsel and back-up counsel may use portable computers in the
`hearing room at the counsel tables and at the hearing room lectern. The
`parties are reminded to direct any requests for specialized audio-visual
`equipment to Trials@uspto.gov. Requests for special equipment will not be
`honored unless presented in a separate communication directed to the above
`e-mail address not less than five (5) days before the oral arguments. If the
`request is not received timely, the equipment may not be available on the
`day of the oral arguments.
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`ORDER
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`It is:
`ORDERED that oral argument for these proceedings shall take place
`beginning at 12:30 PM EST, on Wednesday, September 4, 2019 on the ninth
`floor of Madison Building East, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria, Virginia.
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`PETITIONER:
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`Harper Batts
`Christopher Ponder
`SHEPPARD, MULLIN, RICHTER
`& HAMPTON LLP
`hbatts@sheppardmullin.com
`cponder@sheppardmullin.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`Philip X. Wang
`C. Jay Chung
`Neil A. Rubin
`Kent N. Shum
`Reza Mirzaie
`RUSS AUGUST & KABAT
`pwang@raklaw.com
`jchung@raklaw.com
`nrubin@raklaw.com
`kshum@raklaw.com
`rmirzaie@raklaw.com
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