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`Paper 20
`Entered: August 6, 2019
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`NICHIA CORPORATION, and CREE, INC.,
`Petitioners,
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`v.
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`DOCUMENT SECURITY SYSTEMS, INC.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2018-011661
`Patent 7,256,486 B2
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`Before SCOTT C. MOORE, AMBER L. HAGY, and
`BRENT M. DOUGAL, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`HAGY, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Oral Argument
`35 U.S.C. § 316(a)(10) and 37 C.F.R. § 42.70
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`1 Cree, Inc., who filed a Petition in IPR2019-00506, has been joined as a
`petitioner in this proceeding.
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`IPR2018-01166
`Patent 7,256,486 B2
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`An oral argument for IPR2018-01166 was scheduled for
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`August 28, 2019, if requested by at least one of the parties. Paper 10
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`(“Scheduling Order”). Nichia Corporation (“Petitioner”) and Document
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`Security Systems, Inc. (“Patent Owner”) each requested oral argument.
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`Papers 18, 19. The requests are granted.
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`An oral hearing will be held on August 28, 2019, beginning at
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`1:00 PM Mountain Time at the Rocky Mountain Regional Office, Byron
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`G. Rogers Federal Building, 1961 Stout St., 14th Floor, Denver,
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`Colorado 80294. See Scheduling Order 4 (indicating oral argument will be
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`held at the Denver, Colorado, USPTO Regional Office). The hearing will be
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`open to the public for in-person attendance, which will be accommodated on
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`a first-come, first-served basis. The Board will provide a court reporter for
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`the oral argument, and the reporter’s transcript will constitute the official
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`record of the oral argument.
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`Petitioner proposed allocating 25 minutes per side for the hearing,
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`whereas Patent Owner proposed allocating 30 minutes per side. Papers 18,
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`19. Each party will have a total of 30 minutes to present arguments.
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`Petitioner may reserve rebuttal time to respond to Patent Owner’s
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`arguments. Patent Owner may present a very brief sur-rebuttal.
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`Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b), demonstrative exhibits must be served at
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`least seven (7) business days before the oral argument. The parties shall file
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`demonstrative exhibits at least three (3) business days before the oral
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`argument. See 37 C.F.R. § 42.5(c)(1) (“The Board may set times by order.
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`Times set by rule are default and may be modified by order.”). The parties
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`are expected to meet and confer in good faith to resolve any objections to
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`demonstrative exhibits. If such objections cannot be resolved, however, the
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`parties may file objections to demonstrative exhibits with the Board at least
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`two business days before the oral argument. Any objection that is not timely
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`presented will be considered waived. The objections should identify with
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`particularity which demonstrative exhibits are subject to objection, and
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`include a short (one sentence or less) statement of the reason for each
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`objection. No argument or further explanation is permitted. The Board will
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`consider the objections and schedule a conference if deemed necessary.
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`Otherwise, the Board will reserve ruling on the objections until after the oral
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`argument.
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`The parties are directed to St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Div., Inc. v.
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`The Board of Regents of the University of Michigan, IPR2013-00041 (PTAB
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`Jan. 27, 2014) (Paper 65) regarding the appropriate content of demonstrative
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`exhibits. See also CBS Interactive Inc. v. Helferich Patent Licensing, LLC,
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`Case IPR2013-00033 (PTAB Oct. 23, 2013) (Paper 118) (noting the Board’s
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`discretion to limit the parties’ demonstratives to pages in the record should
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`there be no easy resolution to objections over demonstratives).
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`The parties are reminded that the presenter must identify clearly and
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`specifically each demonstrative exhibit (e.g., by slide or screen number)
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`referenced during the oral argument to ensure the clarity and accuracy of the
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`reporter’s transcript. Demonstrative exhibits are not evidence, but merely a
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`visual aid for use at the hearing.
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`The Board expects lead counsel for each party to be present in person
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`at the oral hearing. Any counsel of record, however, may present the party’s
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`argument as long as that counsel is present in person. If either party expects
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`that its lead counsel will not be attending the oral argument, the parties
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`should initiate a joint telephone conference with the Board no later than
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`two (2) business days prior to the oral hearing to discuss the matter.
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`A party may request remote video attendance for one or more of its
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`other attendees to view the hearing from any USPTO location. The
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`available locations include the USPTO headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia;
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`the Texas Regional Office in Dallas, Texas; the Elijah J. McCoy Midwest
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`Regional Office in Detroit, Michigan; and the Silicon Valley Office in San
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`Jose, CA. To request remote video viewing, a party must send an email
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`message to Trials@uspto.gov ten business days prior to the hearing,
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`indicating the requested location and the number planning to view the
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`hearing from the remote location. The Board will notify the parties if the
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`request for video viewing is granted. Note that it may not be possible to
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`grant the request due to the availability of resources.
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`Any special requests for audio-visual equipment should be directed to
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`Trials@uspto.gov. A party may also indicate any special requests related to
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`appearing at an in-person oral hearing, such as a request to accommodate
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`physical needs that limit mobility or visual or hearing impairments, and
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`indicate how the PTAB may accommodate the special request. Any special
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`requests must be presented in a separate communication not less than
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`five (5) days before the hearing.
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`IPR2018-01166
`Patent 7,256,486 B2
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`PETITIONER:
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`Patrick Colsher
`Patrick.colsher@shearman.com
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`Matt Berkowitz
`Matt.berkowitz@shearman.com
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`Eric Lucas
`Eric.lucas@shearman.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`Wayne Helge
`whelge@dbjg.com
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`James Wilson
`jwilson@dbjg.com
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`Aldo Noto
`anoto@davidsonberquist.com
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