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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`AMNEAL PHARMACEUTICALS LLC AND
`AMNEAL PHARMACEUTICALS OF NEW YORK, LLC,
`Petitioners,
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`v.
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`ALMIRALL, LLC
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2018-00608
`Patent No. 9,161,926 B2
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`PATENT OWNER’S REPLY IN SUPPORT OF ITS MOTION TO
`EXCLUDE EVIDENCE UNDER 37 C.F.R §42.64
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`IPR2018-00608
`Patent Owner’s Reply ISO Motion to Exclude
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`I.
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`ALMIRALL’S OBJECTIONS WERE TIMELY
`Petitioner did not serve Exhibits 1041–1048 on Almirall until March 18, 2019.
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`See Paper 30 at 7 (Certificate of Service stating that “Exhibits 1034–1059, were
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`served in their entirety on March 18, 2019, upon [Patent Owner] via email”).
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`Almirall served objections on March 25, within five business days. Paper 32. This
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`is timely. 37 C.F.R. § 42.64(b)(1) (“Once trial has been instituted, any objection
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`must be filed within five business days of service of evidence to which the objection
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`is directed.”).
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`While Petitioner correctly quotes the rule requiring service of exhibits at a
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`deposition, it has not shown that it did so. Nor did Almirall’s counsel
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`acknowledge that any exhibits were being served at Dr. Harper’s deposition, as
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`Petitioner asserts. See Paper 38 at 4 (citing Ex. 1049 at 152:20–153:3). As the
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`record shows, Almirall’s counsel asked whether the exhibit handed to Dr. Harper
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`was “on file,” to which Petitioner’s counsel responded that it was not, but would
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`be. Ex. 1049 at 152:15–153:3.
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`II. EXHIBITS 1041–1048 ARE NOT SELF-AUTHENTICATING
`As the Board has explained, “[p]rintouts from websites are not self-
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`authenticating.” Xactware Solutions, Inc. v. Pictometry Int’l Corp., Case IPR2016-
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`00594, slip op. at 11–12 (PTAB Aug. 24, 2017) (Paper 46). In order “[t]o
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`authenticate printouts from a website, the party offering the evidence must produce
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`some statement or affidavit from someone with knowledge of the website . . . for
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`example a web master or someone else with personal knowledge.” Standard
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`Innovation Corp. v. Lelo, Inc., Case IPR2014-00148, slip op. at 10 (PTAB Apr. 23,
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`2015) (Paper 41) (quoting EMC Corp. v. Personalweb Techs., LLC, Case
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`IPR2013-00084, slip op. at 45 (PTAB May 15, 2014) (Paper 64)); accord
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`Xactware Solutions, slip op. at 11–12. Petitioner has not done so. Dr. Harper’s
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`testimony generally stating that the amounts physicians are paid by pharmaceutical
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`companies are available through the Sunshine Act, Ex. 1049 at 34:16–35:6, is not
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`evidence that the website printouts provided by Petitioner are authentic. Nor is her
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`testimony that she has no reason to believe she did not receive the amounts stated
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`on the printouts evidence of the printouts’ authenticity. See Ex. 1049 at 154:20–22
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`(re Ex. 1041: “I’ve never seen this before and this is –this is ProPublica? I have
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`not ever seen this before.”); id. at 155:4–7 (re same exhibit, accepting Petitioner’s
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`counsel’s representation that “[t]his is the number that Allergan reported”).
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`Attorney argument and citations to additional unauthenticated website cannot
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`remedy Petitioner’s failure to provide the required affidavits.
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`Additionally, Petitioner’s contention that challenged exhibits are
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`“publication[s] purporting to be issued by a public authority,” and hence self-
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`authenticating pursuant to Federal Rule of Evidence 902(5), is incorrect. This rule
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`speaks to “book[s], pamphlet[s]” and similar types of publications – not interactive
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`website printouts. While “[o]fficial publications from government websites are
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`generally considered to be self-authenticating,” the challenged website printouts
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`are clearly not official government publications, but instead are snapshots of
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`interactive websites. Xactware Solutions, Slip op. at 11. And Exhibits 1041, 1042,
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`and 1048, which purport to be snapshots of a “Dollars for Docs” website, do not
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`even purport to be from a government website.
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`III. CONCLUSION
`For the reasons stated above and in its motion (Paper 36), Almirall requests
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`that Exhibits 1041–1048 be excluded.
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`Dated: May 15, 2019
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`FENWICK & WEST LLP
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`By:/ James S. Trainor/
`James S. Trainor (Reg. No. 52,297)
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`Attorneys for Patent Owner
`Almirall, LLC
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.6, I hereby certify that on May 15, 2019, the
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`foregoing PATENT OWNER’S REPLY IN SUPPORT OF ITS MOTION TO
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`EXCLUDE EVIDENCE was served by electronic mail on the following counsel
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`of record for petitioner:
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`Dennies Varughese (dvarughe-PTAB@skgf.com)
`Adam C. LaRock (alarock-PTAB@skgf.com)
`PTAB@skgf.com
`Sterne, Kessler, Goldstein & Fox
`1100 New York Avenue, NW, Suite 600
`Washington, DC 20005
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`Dated: May 15, 2019
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`FENWICK & WEST LLP
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`By:/ James S. Trainor/
`James S. Trainor (Reg. No. 52,297)
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`Attorneys for Patent Owner
`Almirall, LLC
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