`Sent:
`To:
`Cc:
`
`Subject:
`
`Trials
`Monday, October 15, 2018 5:06 PM
`Walter D. Davis
`Chris Ponder; Harper Batts; Wayne M. Helge; Aldo Noto; LegalTM-Fitbit-BB-
`IPRs@sheppardmullin.com; mcutler@hdp.com; drobinson@hdp.com
`RE: IPR2017-02012: Request for sur-reply
`
`Follow Up Flag:
`Flag Status:
`
`Follow up
`Flagged
`
`Patent Owner is authorized to file a sur‐reply in IPR2017‐02012 in accordance with the PTAB Trial Practice Guide Update
`(August 2018). This sur‐reply is limited to 10 pages and must be filed by October 25th. Patent Owner’s attention is
`directed to the PTAB Trial Practice Guide Update (August 2018) and particularly the portion that discusses the content of
`sur‐replies including:
`
`The sur‐reply may not be accompanied by new evidence other than deposition transcripts of the cross‐
`examination of any reply witness. Sur‐replies should only respond to arguments made in reply briefs, comment
`on reply declaration testimony, or point to cross‐examination testimony. As noted above, a sur‐reply may
`address the institution decision if necessary to respond to the petitioner’s reply.
`
`Generally, a reply or sur‐reply may only respond to arguments raised in the preceding brief. 37 C.F.R. § 42.23,
`except as noted above. To the extent that a reply or sur‐reply “responds” to the institution decision as discussed
`above, “respond,” in the context of § 42.23(b), does not mean embark in a new direction with a new approach
`as compared to positions taken in a prior filing.
`
`(Trial Practice Guide Update (August 2018) 14–15).
`
`Regards,
`Eric W. Hawthorne
`Supervisory Paralegal Specialist
`Patent Trial and Appeal Board
`
`From: Walter D. Davis <wdavis@davidsonberquist.com>
`Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 4:23 PM
`To: Trials <Trials@USPTO.GOV>
`Cc: Chris Ponder <CPonder@sheppardmullin.com>; Harper Batts <HBatts@sheppardmullin.com>; Wayne M. Helge
`<whelge@davidsonberquist.com>; Aldo Noto <anoto@davidsonberquist.com>; LegalTM‐Fitbit‐BB‐
`IPRs@sheppardmullin.com; mcutler@hdp.com; drobinson@hdp.com
`Subject: IPR2017‐02012: Request for sur‐reply
`
`To the Board,
`
`Patent Owner received Petitioners’ reply in the subject case on September 28, 2018, and no motion to amend has been
`filed. Due Date 4 currently is set for October 19, 2018.
`
`1
`
`IPR2017-02012
`Ex. 3001 p. 1 of 2
`
`
`
`Patent Owner respectfully seeks guidance on whether the Board will allow Patent Owner to file a sur‐reply in the subject
`case on Due Date 4, to respond to arguments made in Petitioners’ reply, in accordance with the 2018 Revised Trial
`Practice Guide.
`
`Patent Owner requests that a sur‐reply be permitted consistent with page 14 of the 2018 Revised Trial Practice Guide:
`
`Sur‐replies to principal briefs (i.e., to a reply to a patent owner response or to a reply to an opposition to a motion to
`amend) normally will be authorized by the scheduling order entered at institution. The sur‐reply may not be
`accompanied by new evidence other than deposition transcripts of the cross‐examination of any reply witness. Sur‐
`replies should only respond to arguments made in reply briefs, comment on reply declaration testimony, or point to
`crossexamination testimony. As noted above, a sur‐reply may address the institution decision if necessary to respond to
`the petitioner’s reply. This sur‐reply practice essentially replaces the previous practice of filing observations on cross‐
`examination testimony.
`
`Prior to sending this email, Patent Owner contacted Petitioners, who stated their position as follows:
`
`Fitbit’s position is that Blackbird has failed to explain why it needs a Sur‐Reply in this proceeding. Fitbit did not submit
`an Expert Declaration with its Reply Brief, and secondary considerations are not at issue in this proceeding. When
`requested, Blackbird failed to identify any specific issue or argument from the Reply that would require a Sur‐Reply. In
`the event that the Board is inclined to permit a Sur‐Reply, Fitbit believes a word limit of no more than 3,500 words
`would be appropriate given no Reply Expert Declaration was submitted and secondary considerations are not an issue
`here.
`
`Respectfully,
`
`Walter Davis
`Counsel for Patent Owner
`
`Walter D. Davis, Jr.
`Partner
`Davidson, Berquist, Jackson & Gowdey, L.L.P.
`8300 Greensboro Drive
`Suite 500
`McLean, VA 22102
`Office: 571‐765‐7709
`Mobile: 202‐285‐5230
`Email: wdavis@davidsonberquist.com
`http://www.davidsonberquist.com
`
`IPR2017-02012
`Ex. 3001 p. 2 of 2
`
`2
`
`