From:
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`Cc:
`Subject:
`Date:
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`McCarthy, Sean M.
`Stahnke, Sarah (PAO); arussell@shawkeller.com; McCullough, Christina J. (SEA); Campbell, Chad (PHX);
`Jennison, Judy (SEA); jshaw@shawkeller.com; kkeller@shawkeller.com; *MSFT - Philips Team; McKeever, Patrick
`J. (SDO)
`#Philips Prosecution Bar; "DSilver@McCarter.com"; "bsmyth@McCarter.com"
`RE: Koninklijke Philips N.V. matters Nos. 11-1125 through 15-1128, 15-1130, 15-1131, and 15-1170
`Thursday, October 26, 2017 2:58:02 PM
`
`Sarah,
` 
`Addressing your points in turn:
` 
`
`(1) IPR counsel agree to be bound by the district court’s protective order (with the agreed
`exception concerning the prosecution bar not being triggered) for the documents identified
`in my earlier email.
` 
`(2) We confirm that to the extent any document is filed, it will be filed under seal and we will
`take all necessary precautions to ensure the documents remain confidential.
` 
`(3) Thank you for agreeing to the limited use of these documents in the IPRs, and thank you for
`confirming that reviewing these documents will not trigger the prosecution bar. 
`
` 
`If this is acceptable to Microsoft, we do not believe a meet and confer is necessary.
` 
`Best regards,
`Sean
` 
` 
`Sean M. McCarthy
`FITZPATRICK, CELLA, HARPER & SCINTO
`1290 Avenue of the Americas
`New York, NY 10104-3800
`T 212-218-2332
`F 212-218-2200
`SMcCarthy@FCHS.COM
`http://www.fitzpatrickcella.com
`Bio
`
` 
`From: Stahnke, Sarah (Perkins Coie) [mailto:SStahnke@perkinscoie.com]
`Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:56 PM
`To: McCarthy, Sean M.; arussell@shawkeller.com; CMcCullough@perkinscoie.com;
`cscampbell@perkinscoie.com; JJennison@perkinscoie.com; jshaw@shawkeller.com;
`kkeller@shawkeller.com; MSFT-PhilipsTeam@perkinscoie.com; PMcKeever@perkinscoie.com
`Cc: #Philips Prosecution Bar; 'DSilver@McCarter.com'; 'bsmyth@McCarter.com'
`Subject: RE: Koninklijke Philips N.V. matters Nos. 11-1125 through 15-1128, 15-1130, 15-1131, and 15-
`1170
` 
`Sean,
`
`We have some concerns about the use of these confidential Microsoft documents in the IPR
`proceedings. First, you have not indicated whether Philips’ IPR counsel is bound by the Protective Order
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`entered in the district court case. Can you confirm that IPR counsel is, in fact, bound by the PO?
`
`Second, we note that there is, as yet, no protective order in the IPR proceedings. We understand that
`you intend to file any documents under seal and take all necessary precautions to ensure the documents
`remain confidential. We expect that these documents will remain confidential and will not be available to
`the public. Please confirm.
`
`Finally, we note that Paragraph 5 of the Protective Order prohibits the use of confidential material for any
`purpose other than use in the district court litigations. This use falls within that prohibition. In the interest
`of facilitating the PTAB’s full review of Philips’ request for discovery, however, we are willing to agree to a
`limited use of these documents in the IPRs, so long as they are not used for any other extra-litigation
`purpose. To this end, Philips may share these materials with outside IPR counsel who are bound by the
`district court’s Protective Order and who maintain the confidentiality of the documents, and we agree that
`reviewing these documents and filing them under seal with the PTAB will not trigger the prosecution bar.
`This agreement applies only to the specific documents you have identified in your message.
` 
`Please let us know if you still believe that a meet and confer is necessary, and if so, we can check
`availability.
`
`Regards,
`Sarah
`
`
`From: McCarthy, Sean M. [mailto:SMcCarthy@FCHS.COM]
`Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 1:43 PM
`To: arussell@shawkeller.com; McCullough, Christina J. (SEA); Campbell, Chad (PHX); Jennison, Judy
`(SEA); jshaw@shawkeller.com; kkeller@shawkeller.com; *MSFT - Philips Team; McKeever, Patrick J.
`(SDO); Stahnke, Sarah (PAO)
`Cc: #Philips Prosecution Bar; 'DSilver@McCarter.com'; 'bsmyth@McCarter.com'
`Subject: RE: Koninklijke Philips N.V. matters Nos. 11-1125 through 15-1128, 15-1130, 15-1131, and 15-
`1170
` 
`Microsoft Counsel,
` 
`We have not received a response to my below email.  Please let us know when you and local counsel
`are available to meet and confer after 4:30pm ET today.
` 
`Best regards,
`Sean
` 
`Sean M. McCarthy
`FITZPATRICK, CELLA, HARPER & SCINTO
`1290 Avenue of the Americas
`New York, NY 10104-3800
`T 212-218-2332
`F 212-218-2200
`SMcCarthy@FCHS.COM
`http://www.fitzpatrickcella.com
`Bio
`
` 
`From: McCarthy, Sean M.
`Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:06 PM
`To: arussell@shawkeller.com; CMcCullough@perkinscoie.com; cscampbell@perkinscoie.com;
`JJennison@perkinscoie.com; jshaw@shawkeller.com; kkeller@shawkeller.com; MSFT-
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`PhilipsTeam@perkinscoie.com; PMcKeever@perkinscoie.com; SStahnke@perkinscoie.com
`Cc: #Philips Prosecution Bar; DSilver@McCarter.com; bsmyth@McCarter.com
`Subject: Koninklijke Philips N.V. matters Nos. 11-1125 through 15-1128, 15-1130, 15-1131, and 15-
`1170
` 
`Microsoft Counsel,
` 
`As you are probably aware, yesterday the PTAB authorized Philips to file a motion by November 1,
`2017 for additional discovery in IPR2017-00890, -01754, and -01766 relating to (1) whether and to
`what extent a relationship exists between Microsoft and HTC with respect to the current IPR
`proceedings, and (2) whether and to what extent a relationship exists between the instant
`Petitioners (HTC and Microsoft) and the petitioners in earlier inter partes review proceedings,
`namely Google, Acer, and ASUS.  In particular, the PTAB stated that Patent Owner, in its motion,
`should “specifically identify[] the evidence already in Patent Owner’s possession tending to show
`beyond mere speculation that something useful will be uncovered by the request.” See IPR2017-
`00890, Paper 11, at 3 (emphasis added).  However, paragraph 14 of the Protective Order (D.I. 132 in
`Case No. 15-1170) currently prohibits us from sharing certain documents with the attorneys involved
`in the IPRs because they are marked “HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL – OUTSIDE COUNSEL ONLY,” and thus
`we may be hindered from complying with the PTAB’s order. 
` 
`While we believe the below-identified materials do not trigger the prosecution bar of paragraph 14
`because they would fall into documents not classified as Prosecution Bar Materials, namely “(i)
`documents and information related only to damages or reasonable royalty rates,” out of an
`abundance of caution we would like your written consent to allow the attorneys working on the IPR
`to view, without triggering the prosecution bar of the protective order, the agreements between
`Microsoft and Acer, and between Microsoft and ASUS.  To be clear, the attorneys working on the
`IPR are all outside counsel.  In particular, we wish to disclose the following documents to our IPR
`team:
`(1) Microsoft OEM Master Licensing Agreement (Version 2015) (MSFT_PHILIPS00004741-806)
`(2) Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document (Version 10.0) (MSFT_PHILIPS00004807-831)
`(3) Co-Licensee Amendment to Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document (Version 10.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004832-835)
`(4) Co-Licensee Amendment to Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document (Version 10.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004836-839)
`(5) Co-Licensee Amendment to Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document (Version 10.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004840-842)
`(6) Co-Licensee Amendment to Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document (Version 10.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004843-845)
`(7) Co-Licensee Amendment to Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004846-848)
`(8) Co-Licensee Amendment to Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004849-851)
`(9) Co-Licensee Amendment to Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004852-854)
`(10)Co-Licensee Amendment to Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004855-857)
`
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`(11)Amendment to Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document (Version 11.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004858-867)
`(12)Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document (Version 11.0) (MSFT_PHILIPS00004868-889)
`(13)Microsoft Business Terms Document for OEM Customers (Version 9.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004890-905)
`(14)Microsoft Business Terms Document for OEM Customers (Version 7.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004906-921)
`(15)Microsoft Business Terms Document for OEM Customers (Version 8.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004922-938)
`(16)Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document for Embedded Systems (Version 3.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004939-957)
`(17)Microsoft OEM Business Terms Document for Embedded Systems (Version 4.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004958-992)
`(18)Microsoft Desktop Operating System License Agreement (Version 10.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00004993-5030)
`(19)Microsoft Desktop Operating System License Agreement (Version 11.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00005031-5044)
`(20)Microsoft Desktop Operating System License Agreement (Version 12.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00005045-5061)
`(21)Microsoft Desktop Operating System License Agreement (Version 2011)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00005062-5081)
`(22)Microsoft Desktop Operating System License Agreement for OEM Customers (Version 8.01)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00005082-106)
`(23)Microsoft Desktop Operating System License Agreement for OEM Customers (Version 9.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00005107-196)
`(24)Microsoft OEM Master Licensing Agreement (Version 2012) (MSFT_PHILIPS00005197-259)
`(25)Amendment to the Microsoft OEM Mobility License Agreement (MSFT_PHILIPS00005260-
`262)
`(26)Amendment to the Microsoft OEM Mobility License Agreement (MSFT_PHILIPS00005263-
`266)
`(27)Microsoft OEM Mobility License Agreement (Version 3.0) (MSFT_PHILIPS00005267-276)
`(28)Amendment to the Microsoft OEM Mobility License Agreement (MSFT_PHILIPS00005277-
`283)
`(29)Amendment to the Microsoft OEM Mobility License Agreement (MSFT_PHILIPS00005284-
`298)
`(30)Microsoft OEM Mobility License Agreement (MSFT_PHILIPS00005299)
`(31)Microsoft OEM Mobility License Agreement (MSFT_PHILIPS00005300)
`(32)Microsoft OEM Mobility License Agreement (MSFT_PHILIPS00005301)
`(33)Microsoft OEM Mobility License Agreement (MSFT_PHILIPS00005302)
`(34)Microsoft OEM Mobility License Agreement (Step Plus, Version 3.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00005303)
`(35)Microsoft OEM Mobility License Agreement (Version 4.0) (MSFT_PHILIPS00005320-346)
`(36)Microsoft OEM Embedded Operating Systems License Agreement for Reference Platform
`Devices (Version 2.0) (MSFT_PHILIPS00005347-393)
`(37)Microsoft Toolkit License Agreement for OEM Customers (Version 9.0)
`
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`(MSFT_PHILIPS00005394-405)
`(38)Microsoft Toolkit License Agreement for OEM Customers (Version 9.0)
`(MSFT_PHILIPS00005406-417)
`
` 
`Please let us know by tomorrow, October 26, 2017 by 3:00pm ET whether you will consent to
`disclosing the aforementioned agreements to the IPR team without triggering the prosecution bar of
`paragraph 14 of the Protective Order.   To the extent we rely on any of these document in our filing
`due November 1st, we will of course file such documents under seal to maintain their confidentiality.
` 
`If you do not consent to such authorization, please know that we intend to file an expedited motion
`with the Court for such authorization by Friday, October 27, 2017 in order to comply with the
`PTAB’s order.  In that regard, please let us know when you are available to meet and confer after
`3:00 pm ET tomorrow.
` 
`Best regards,
`Sean
` 
`Sean M. McCarthy
`FITZPATRICK, CELLA, HARPER & SCINTO
`1290 Avenue of the Americas
`New York, NY 10104-3800
`T 212-218-2332
`F 212-218-2200
`SMcCarthy@FCHS.COM
`http://www.fitzpatrickcella.com
`Bio
`
` 
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