`MERCEDES-BENZ USA, LLC, AND
`MERCEDES-BENZ U.S. INTERNATIONAL, INC.
`
`v.
`
`Stragent, LLC
`
`Case Nos:
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`IPR2017-01502, Patent No. 8,209,705
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`IPR2017-01503, -01504 Patent No. 8,566,843
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`Petitioners’ Demonstratives
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`Page 1
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`Hearing: September 11, 2018
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`1
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`Overview of the ‘843 and ‘705 Patents
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 2-5/1-5/1-5
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`‘1502 Petition at 2; Ex. 1001 (‘705 Patent) at Abstract)
`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 1/1; Ex. 1001 (‘843 Patent) at Abstract);
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`2
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 2
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`
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`Overview of the ‘843 and ‘705 Patents
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`‘1502/ ‘1503/ ‘1504 Petition at 2-5/1-5/1-5
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`‘1502 Petition at 3-4; Ex. 1001 (‘705 Patent) at 7:4-23;
`‘1503/1504 Petition at 2-3/3-4; Ex. 1001 (‘843 Patent) at 7:4-23
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`‘1502 Petition at 3; Ex. 1001 (’705 Patent) at Fig. 7;
`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 2/2; Ex. 1001 (‘843 Patent) at Fig. 7
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`‘1502 Petition at 3; Ex. 1001 (‘705 Patent) at 6:43-49;
`‘1504 Petition at 3; Ex. 1001 (‘843 Patent) at 6:43-49
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`‘1502 Petition at 3-4; Ex. 1001 (‘705 Patent) at 7:38-49
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`3
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 3
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`Overview of the ‘843 and ‘705 Patents
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 2-5/1-5/1-5
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`Prosecution History: Miesterfeld
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`‘843 Patent
`Filed 6/22/2012
`
`cont.
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`‘705 Patent
`Filed 7/30/2008
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`Miesterfeld cited in
`an IDS after claims
`were allowed.
`
`cont.
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`‘1502/’1504 Petition at 4-5/4-5;
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`‘1504 Petition at 4; Ex. 1004 (‘843 File History at 133-151 (IDS)).
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`‘263 Patent
`Filed 12/15/2003
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`prov.
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`‘018 Prov. App.
`Filed 12/17/2002
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`‘1502 Petition at 4-5; Ex. 1004 (Koopman decl. summarizing ‘263 File
`History), Ex. 1003 (‘705 File History); ‘1503/’1504 Petition at 4/4-5; Ex.
`1004 (‘843 File History), Ex. 1005 (Koopman decl. summarizing ‘263 and
`‘705 File Histories)
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`‘1502 Petition 5; see also ‘1504 Petition at 4-5 (“Miesterfeld reference was
`not subject to any substantive rejections or review.”).
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`4
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 4
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`Instituted Grounds – ‘843 and ‘705 Patents
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`’1502/’1503/’1504 Inst. Dec. at 32/17/18
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`IPR2017-01502, ‘705 Patent
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`IPR2017-01503, ‘843 Patent
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`IPR2017-01504, ‘843 Patent
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`‘1502 Petition at 8
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`‘1503 Petition at 7
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`‘1504 Petition at 8
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`5
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 5
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`Miesterfeld – Background
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`‘1502/’1504 Petition at 9-10/8-9
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`‘1502 Petition at 10; Ex. 1009 (Miesterfeld) at Fig. 1;
`‘1504 Petition at 9; Ex. 1010 (Miesterfeld) at Fig.. 1
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`‘1502 Petition at 55; Ex. 1009 (Miesterfeld) at Abstract);
`‘1504 Petition at 18; Ex. 1010 (Miesterfeld) at Abstract)
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`‘1502 Petition at 57; Ex. 1009 (Miesterfeld) at 3:18-25;
`‘1504 Petition at 20; Ex. 1010 (Miesterfeld) at 3:18-25
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`6
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 6
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`Miesterfeld – Background
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`‘1502/1504 Petition at 9-10/8-9
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`‘1502 Petition at 62; Ex. 1009 (Miesterfeld) at Fig. 2;
`‘1504 Petition at 14; Ex. 1010 (Miesterfeld) at Fig. 2
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`‘1502 Petition at 61-62; Ex. 1009 (Miesterfeld) at 3:50-57;
`‘1504 Petition at 44; Ex. 1010 (Miesterfeld) at 3:50-58
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`7
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 7
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`Posadas – Background
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`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 8-9/8-9
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`‘1502 Petition at 27; Ex. 1006 (Posadas) at 11;
`‘1503 Petition at 39; Ex. 1007 (Posadas) at 11
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`‘1502 Petition at 9; Ex. 1006 (Posadas) at Fig. 1;
`‘1503 Petition at 9; Ex. 1007 (Posadas) at Fig. 1
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`‘1502 Petition at 8; Ex. 1006 (Posadas) at 8;
`‘1503 Petition at 8; Ex. 1007 (Posadas) at 8
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`‘1502 Petition at 25; Ex. 1006 (Posadas) at 10;
`‘1503 Petition at 22; Ex. 1007 (Posadas) at 10
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`8
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 8
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`
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`Posadas – Background
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`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 8-9/8-9
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`‘1502 Petition at 14; Ex. 1006 (Posadas) at Fig. 4;
`‘1503 Petition at 12; Ex. 1007 (Posadas) at Fig. 4
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`‘1502 Petition at 21; Ex. 1006 (Posadas) at 11;
`‘1503 Petition at 19; Ex. 1007 (Posadas) at 11
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`‘1502 Petition at 52; Ex. 1006 (Posadas) at 11;
`‘1503 Petition at 44; Ex. 1007 (Posadas) at 11
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`9
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 9
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`
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`Stewart – Background
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 10-11/9-10/9-10
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`‘1502 Petition at 10; Ex. 1007 (Stewart) at 6;
`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 9/10; Ex. 1008 (Stewart) at 6
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`‘1502 Petition at 15; Ex. 1007(Stewart) at 11;
`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 13/18; Ex. 1008 (Stewart) at 11
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`‘1502 Petition at 56; Ex. 1007 (Stewart) at 7;
`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 14/52; Ex. 1008 (Stewart) at 7
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`‘1502 Petition at 20; Ex. 1007 (Stewart) at 11;
`‘1503/1504 Petition at 17-18/22; Ex. 1008 (Stewart) at 11
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`10
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 10
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`
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`Wense – Background
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 11/8/10-11
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`‘1502 Petition at 70; Ex. 1008 (Wense) at 13;
`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 29-30/56; Ex. 1009 (Wense) at 13
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`‘1502 Petition at 39-40; Ex. 1008 (Wense) at 11;
`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 35-36/35-36; Ex. 1009 (Wense) at 11
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`‘1502 Petition at 36; Ex. 1008 (Wense) at 10-11;
`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 32/34; Ex. 1009 (Wense) at 10-11
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`‘1502 Petition at 70; Ex. 1008 (Wense) at Fig. 3;
`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 30/32; Ex. 1009 (Wense) at Fig. 3
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`11
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 11
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`Upender – Background
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`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 8/11-12
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`
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`Filed on Sept. 16, 1994 and
`issued on Dec. 29, 2009
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` Upender discloses a system that
`utilizes a gateway that bridges
`two CAN networks that use the
`“standard CAN message
`identifier field.”
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`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 79-80/80-81; Ex. 1038 (Upender) at 2-3
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`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 79/11-12; Ex. 1038 (Upender) at Abstract
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`12
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 12
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`Zhao – Background
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`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 8/11
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`
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`Filed on Mar. 2, 2001 and issued
`on Sept. 5, 2002
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`Zhao discloses a network
`topology between multiple
`networks and devices.
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`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 74-78/74-78; Ex. 1039 (Zhao) at ¶26
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`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 74-78/74-78; Ex. 1039 (Zhao) at Fig. 1
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`13
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 13
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Claim Construction
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`‘1502/’1503/’1054 Reply at 3-4/3-5/3-5; ‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Resp. at 16/14/12
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`14
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`Term
`“Real Time”
`
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`“sharing the
`information”
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`“Protocol”
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`“second
`network”
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`“diagnostic
`mode”
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`Terms Identified for Claim construction
`Petitioner’s Position
`
`PO’s Positions
`No dispute:
`“any response time that may be measured in milli- or microseconds, and/or is less than
`one second.”
`(‘1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 6/5/6; ‘1502/’1503/’1504 at PO Response at 17/15/13)
`“Completing the delivery of information to a
`“making the information available to
`destination” (‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Response. at 16/14/12)
`another process” (‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at
`3-4/3-4/3-4)
`
`“Partake of, use, experience, occupy, or enjoy
`with others; to have in common.” (‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO
`Response. at 16/14/12)
`
`“a set of rules or procedures utilizing preexisting
`agreement as to how information will be
`structured an how each side will send and
`receive it for transmitting information between
`electronic devices.” (‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Response at 17/14/12-
`13)
`“the second network utilizing a second different
`protocol which is the recipient of the “shared”
`information connected to the storage resource.”
`(‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Response at 18,43/16/14)
`“an alternative mode of operation, distinct from
`normal operations, that still allows inspection of
`the system while it is running.” Cannot be a
`temporary implementation. (‘1502 PO Response at 18-
`19; 42-43)
`
`
`“A standard that Specifies the
`format of data as well as the rules to
`be followed in transmitting it.”
`(‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 4/4/4-5)
`
`BRI; the term is readily
`understandable on its face and does
`not require a specific construction
`(‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 5/5/5)
`“A mode designed to determine
`whether a computer system is
`functioning properly or to detect
`programming errors.” (‘1502 Reply at 5-
`7,18-19)
`
`
`
`
`
`Board’s FWD
`
`Responses that occur in
`less than one second.
`(‘457/’458 FWD at 10/10)
`“making the
`information available to
`another process” (‘457 FWD
`at 10-11; ‘458 FWD at 10-11)
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 14
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Claim Construction - “Sharing”
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`‘1502/’1503/’1054 Reply at 3-4/3-5/3-5; ‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Resp. at 16/14/12
`
`Dr. Miller (PO’s Expert)
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Replies at 2; Ex. 1039/1043/1043 (Miller 2018 Dep.) at 27: 15-17
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 replies at 2; Ex. 1039/1043/1043 (Miller 2018 Dep.) at 28:17-29:4
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`‘1502/’1503 /’1504 Reply at 4/4/4; 458 FWD at 10-11; ‘457 FWD at 10-11
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 15
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`
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Claim Construction - “Sharing”
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`‘1502/’1503/’1054 Reply at 3-4/3-5/3-5; ‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Resp. at 16/14/12
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`Dr. Miller (PO’s Expert)
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`‘1502 Reply at 3-4; Ex. 1039 (Miller 2018 Dep.) at 145:2-146:15;
`’1503/’1504 Reply at 3-4; Ex. 1043 (Miller 2018 Dep.) at 145:2-146:15
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`‘1502/’1503 /’1504 Reply at 4/4/4; 458 FWD at 10-11; ‘457 FWD at 10-11
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`16
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 16
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`
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Claim Construction - “Sharing”
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`‘1502/’1503/’1054 Reply at 3-4/3-5/3-5; ‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Resp. at 16/14/12
`
`Dr. Miller (PO’s Expert)
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 2; Ex. 1039/1043/1043 (Miller 2018 Dep.) at 45:20-46:6
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`‘1502/’1503 /’1504 Reply at 4/4/4; 458 FWD at 10-11; ‘457 FWD at 10-11
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 17
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`
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Claim Construction - “Sharing”
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`‘1502/’1503/’1054 Reply at 3-4/3-5/3-5; ‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Resp. at 16/14/12
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Replies at 2; Ex. 1039/1043/1043 (Miller 2018 Dep.) at 32:3-34:12
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`Dr. Miller (PO’s Expert)
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`18
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 18
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`
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Claim Construction - “Protocol”
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 4/4-5/4-5; ‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Response at 17/14-15/12-13
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`PO:
`
`Petitioner:
`
`‘1502/‘1503/’1504 PO Response at 17/14-15/12-13
`
`Dr. Koopman:
`
`‘1503 Reply at 4-5; 1502/’1504 Reply at 4,4-5 (same)
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`‘1502/‘1503/’1504 Reply at 4/4-5/4-5; Ex. 1038/1042/1042 (Koopman Dec.) at ¶ 28/29/29
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 19
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`
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Claim Construction - “Second Network”
`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 5/5/5; ‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Resp. at 18/15-16/13-14
`
`PO:
`
`Claim 51i and m,n,o:
`
`‘1503 PO Response at 16; see ‘1502 PO Response at 18 (same); ‘1504 PO Response at 14 (same).
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`‘1502/‘1503/’1504 PO Response at 18/15/13-14
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 20
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`
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Claim Construction - “Diagnostic Mode”
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`‘1502 Reply at 5-7; ‘1502 PO Response at 18-19
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`•
`
`•
`
`PO: “an alternative mode of operation, distinct from normal operations, that still allows
`inspection of the system while it is running.” Cannot be a temporary implementation. (‘1502
`PO Response at 18-19; 42-43)
`
`PO improperly reads the specification into the claims:
`
`• No mention of “alternative,” “distinct” or “permanent”
`
`‘1502 Reply at 5-7
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`• No exclusion of “temporary” modes
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`‘1502 Reply at 5-7
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`‘1502 Reply at 5-7, Ex. 1001 (‘705 Patent) at 11:51-67
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 21
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Claim Construction - “Diagnostic Mode”
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`‘1502 Reply at 5-7; ‘1502 PO Response at 18-19
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`• Dr. Koopman:
`
`•
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`PO’s expert:
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`‘1502 Reply at 5-7; Ex. 1038 (Koopman Reply Decl.) ¶ 32
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`‘1502 Reply at 7; Ex. 1039 (Miller 2018 Depo.) at 66:21-67:3 (objections omitted)
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 22
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`
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`‘843 and ’705 Patents: Posadas
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`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 12-51/10-83
`
` PO: ‘843 (claims 2, 4, 8-14, 16-29, 33, 35-
`37, 41-43, 45, 46, 54-58) and ‘705 (claims
`9, 12-17 and 19) not obvious over Posadas
`because:
`
`• No motivation to combine Posadas with
`Stewart
`(See, e.g., ‘1502/’1503 PO Response at 25/22)
`
`• No sharing of “the information” on a
`
`“second network” (See, e.g., ‘1502/’1503 PO
`Response at 31-32/29-30)
`
`• Stewart does not disclose “sending a
`notification.” (See, e.g., ‘1502/’1503 PO Response at 30-
`31/27)
`
`• Same arguments raised in the ‘457 and
`‘458 petition and rejected by the Board
`
`‘1503 Petition, App. A at A-1 to A-2
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 23
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`
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`‘843 and ’705 Patents: Miesterfeld
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`‘1502/’1504 Petition at 51-87/13-84; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 19-28/5-27
`
` PO: ‘843 (claims 2, 4, 7-14, 17-23, 25-29, 33,
`35, 36-43, 45-49 54-58) and ‘705 (9, 12-17 and
`19) not obvious over Miesterfeld:
`
`• No motivation to combine Wense or Stewart
`(‘1502/’1504 PO Response at 44-59/19-59)
`
`• Stewart does not disclose “sending a
`notification” (‘1502/’1504 PO Response at 49-50/23-25)
`
`• Does not share “the” information with a
`“second network” (‘1502/’1504 PO Response at 53/25-27)
`
`• Miesterfeld does not disclose a CAN bus
`(See, e.g.,‘1502 PO Response at 14, 53/29,43)
`
`‘457 Petition, App. A at 1
`
`• Same arguments raised in the ‘457 and ‘458
`petition and rejected by the Board
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 24
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`‘705 (7c,d,e) and ‘843 (51d,f,g) Patents: A POSITA Would Have Combined
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`Posadas/Miesterfeld and Stewart
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`‘1502/1503 Petition at 15-18/14-17; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 7-9/5-7
`
`The Board has already rejected PO’s arguments:
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 2-4/2-8/2-3, ‘457 FWD at 26, ‘458 FWD at 28-29
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 2-4/2-8/2-3, ‘457 FWD at 26-27, ‘458 FWD at 29
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`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 2-4/2-8/2-3, ‘457 FWD at 27, ‘458 FWD at 29
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 25
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`
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`‘705 (7c,d,e) and ‘843 (51d,f,g) Patents: A POSITA Would Have Combined
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`Posadas/Miesterfeld and Stewart
`‘1502/1503 Petition at 15-18/14-17; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 7-9/5-7
`
`The Board has already rejected PO’s arguments:
`
`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 8-9/6-7/7‘457 FWD at 26-28; ‘458 FWD at 29-30
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`26
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 26
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`
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`‘705 (7c,d,e) and ‘843 (51d,f,g) Patents: A POSITA Would Have Combined
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`Posadas/Miesterfeld and Stewart
`‘1502/1504 Petition at 54-58;17-22; ‘1502/’1504 Reply at 19-20/5-6
`
`The Board has already rejected PO’s argument against combining Miesterfeld with Stewart:
`
`PO:
`
`The Board:
`
`‘1504 PO Response at 21; ‘1502 PO Response at 45
`
`‘1504 PO Response at 23; ‘1502 PO Response at 48
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`‘1502/‘1504 Reply at 19-20/5-6; 457 FWD at 33, 40; ‘458 FWD at 41, 50
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`27
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 27
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`
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`‘705 (7c,d,e) and ‘843 (51d,f,g) Patents: A POSITA Would Have Combined
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`Posadas/Miesterfeld and Stewart
`‘1502/1503 Petition at 15-18/14-17; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 7-9/5-7
`
`‘1503 Petition at 14-15; Ex. 1005 (Koopman Decl..) at ¶126;
`‘1502 Petition at 16-17; Ex. 1004 (Koopman Decl..) at ¶132
`
`Dr. Koopman
`(Expert for Petitioner)
`
`‘1503 Petition at 15; Ex. 1005 (Koopman Decl..) at ¶127;
`‘1502 Petition at 17; Ex. 1004 (Koopman Decl..) at ¶133
`
`‘1503 Petition at 15-16; Ex. 1005 (Koopman Decl..) at ¶128;
`‘1502 Petition at 17-18; Ex. 1004 (Koopman Decl..) at ¶134
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 28
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`
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`‘705 (7c,d,e) and ‘843 (51d,f,g) Patents: A POSITA Would Have Combined
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`Posadas/Miesterfeld and Stewart
`‘1502/1504 Petition at 54-58;17-22; ‘1502/’1504 Reply at 19-20/5-6
`
`Dr. Koopman
`(Expert for Petitioner)
`
`‘1502 Petition at 55; Ex. 1004 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶249;
`‘1504 Petition at 18; Ex. 1005 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶133
`
`‘1502 Petition at 56; Ex. 1004 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶251;
`‘1504 Petition at 19; Ex. 1005 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶135
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`‘1502 Petition at 56-57; Ex. 1004 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶252;
`‘1504 Petition at 19-20; Ex. 1005 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶136
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 29
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`
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`‘705 (7c,d,e) and ‘843 (51d,f,g) Patents: A POSITA Would Have Combined
`
`Posadas/Miesterfeld and Stewart
`‘1502/1504 Petition at 54-58;17-22; ‘1502/’1504 Reply at 19-20/5-6
`
`PO argues that the existence of “handshake lines” in Miesterfeld would prevent a POSITA from
`combining it with Stewart
`
`PO:
`
`‘1502 PO Response at 48; ‘1504 PO Response at 21-23
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`‘1502 PO Response at 47; ‘1504 PO Response at 22
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`‘1502 PO Response at 48, Ex. 2006 (Miller Decl.) at ¶ 103;
`‘1504 PO Response at 23, Ex. 2006 (Miller Decl.) at ¶ 51
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 30
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`
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`‘705 (7c,d,e) and ‘843 (51d,f,g) Patents: A POSITA Would Have Combined
`
`Posadas/Miesterfeld and Stewart
`1502/1504 Petition at 54-58;17-22; ‘1502/’1504 Reply at 19-20/5-6
`
`Using a spin-lock (Stewart) vs. handshake (Miesterfeld) would have been nothing more than a well-
`known technique that would have yielded predictable results:
`
`‘1502 Petition at 17; Ex. 1004 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶253;
`‘1504 Petition at 20; Ex. 1005 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶137
`
`‘1502 Petition at 17-18; Ex. 1004 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶254;
`‘1504 Petition at 21; Ex. 1005 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶138
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 31
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`
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Enablement
`‘1502/’1504 Reply at 21-22/8-10
`
`In an obviousness combination the references themselves need not enable the combination or the
`challenged claims:
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`‘1502/’1504 Reply at 9/21
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`‘457/’458 FWD at 22-23/24
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`32
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 32
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`
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Enablement
`‘1502/’1504 Reply at 21-22/8-10
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`In an obviousness combination the references themselves need not enable the combination or the
`challenged claims:
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`Amgen v. Hoechst, 314 F.3d 131, 1355 (Fed. Cir. 2003)
`
`Amgen v. Hoechst, 314 F.3d 131, 1357 (Fed. Cir. 2003)
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`33
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 33
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`
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`‘705 and ‘843 Patents: Enablement
`‘1502/’1504 Reply at 21-22/8-10
`
`PO’s new evidence to support its enablement argument:
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`Elan Pharm., Inc. v. Mayo, 346 F.3d 1051, 1054 (Fed. Cir. 2003)
`
`MPEP §2121.01
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`34
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 34
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`
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`‘705 (7g) and ‘843 (51i) Patents: Posadas Teaches sharing “the information”
`with a “second network”
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 20-24/18-22; ‘1502/’1503 PO Response at 31-34/28-31; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 10-12/8-10
`
`The Board has already found that Posadas discloses sharing “the information” with a
`second network:
`
`‘1502/’1503 Reply at 3-4/2, 10, 20-21, ‘457 FWD at 24-25
`
`‘1502/’1503 Reply at 3-4/2, 10, 20-21, ‘457 FWD at 25
`
`‘1502/’1503 Reply at 3-4/2, 10, 20-21, ‘457 FWD at 25
`
`35
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 35
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`
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`‘705 (7g) and ‘843 (51i) Patents: Posadas Teaches sharing “the information”
`with a “second network”
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 20-24/18-22; ‘1502/’1503 PO Response at 31-34/28-31; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 10-12/8-10
`
`The Board has already rejected PO’s position on “the” information:
`
`IPR2017-00677 FWD at 20
`
`IPR2017-00677 FWD at 19
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`36
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 36
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`
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`‘705 (7g) and ‘843 (51i) Patents: Posadas Teaches sharing “the information”
`with a “second network”
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 20-24/18-22; ‘1502/’1503 PO Response at 31-34/28-31; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 10-12/8-10
`
`Posadas:
`
`PO:
`
`‘1502/‘1503 Reply at 20/19-20; Ex. 1006 (Posadas) at 8
`
`‘1502/‘1503 Reply at 11/9
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`‘’1502/1503 PO Response at 33/30
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`37
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 37
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`
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`‘705 (7g) and ‘843 (51i) Patents: Posadas Teaches sharing “the information”
`with a “second network”
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 20-24/18-22; ‘1502/’1503 PO Response at 31-34/28-31; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 10-12/8-10
`
`‘1502/‘1503 Reply at 11/9
`
`Dr. Miller (PO’s Expert)
`
`‘1502/’1503 Reply at 10-12/8-10; Ex. 1039/1043 (Miller 2018 Depo.) at 99:11-100:6
`
`38
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 38
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`
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`‘705 (7g) and ‘843 (51i) Patents: Posadas Teaches sharing “the information”
`with a “second network”
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 20-24/18-22; ‘1502/’1503 PO Response at 31-34/28-31; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 10-12/8-10
`
`PO:
`
`‘1502/’1503 PO Response at 33/30
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`‘1502/’1503 PO Response at 31-34/36
`
`39
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 39
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`
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`‘705 (7g) and ‘843 (51i) Patents: Posadas Teaches sharing “the information”
`with a “second network”
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 20-24/18-22; ‘1502/’1503 PO Response at 31-34/28-31; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 10-12/8-10
`
`‘1502/‘1503 Reply at 11/9
`
`‘1503 Petition at 18-22 ; Ex. 1005 (Koopman Decl.) at 140
`‘1502 Petition at 20-24; Ex. 1004 (Koopman Decl.) at 147
`
`Dr. Koopman
`(Expert for Petitioner)
`
`‘1503 Petition at 18-22; Ex. 1042 (Koopman Reply Decl.) at 43;
`‘1502 Petition at 20-24; Ex. 1038 (Koopman Reply Decl.) at 47
`
`40
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 40
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`
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`‘705 (7g) and ‘843 (51i) Patents: Miesterfeld Teaches sharing “the
`information” with a “second network”
`‘1502/’1504 Petition at 59-61, 66-77/22-25,28-30; ‘1502/’1504 Reply at 20-23/8-10
`
`The Board has already rejected PO’s “no second network” argument against Miesterfeld:
`
`PO:
`
`The Board:
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`‘1504 PO Response at 26; ‘1502 PO Response at 51
`
`‘1502/’1504 Reply at 21/8-9; 457/458 FWD at 39/49,
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`41
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 41
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`
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`‘705 (7g) and ‘843 (51i) Patents: Miesterfeld Teach sharing “the information”
`with a “second network”
`‘1502/’1504 Petition at 59-61, 66-77/22-25,28-30; ‘1502/’1504 Reply at 20-23/8-10
`
`PO’s own expert agreed a gateway “converts”:
`
`‘1502/’1504 Reply at 21-22/9-10; Ex. 1039 (Miller 2018 Dep.) at 71:12-72:3
`
`‘1502/’1504 Petition at 62/14; Ex. 1009 (Miesterfeld) at Title and Fig. 2
`
`42
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 42
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`
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`‘705 (7g) and ‘843 (51i) Patents: Miesterfeld Teach sharing “the information”
`with a “second network”
`‘‘1502/’1504 Petition at 59-61, 66-77/22-25,28-30; ‘1502/’1504 Reply at 20-23/8-10
`
`Miesterfeld expressly teaches converting ITS messages into VDB messages:
`
`‘1502/’504 Reply at 21/9; Ex. 1009 (Miesterfeld) 4:34-37; 7:29-31
`
`‘1502/’1504 Reply at 21/9; Ex. 1038/1042 (Koopman Reply Decl.) ¶ 73 / 41
`
`43
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`
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`‘705 (7 l,m,n) and ‘843 (51 m,n,o) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld Teach a “second” network
`‘1502/’1504 Petition at 68/27-28;‘1502/’1504 Reply at 22-23/10-12
`
`•
`
`PO:
`
`• None of the challenged claims require the second network to “receive” shared information
`
`• Even so, Posadas discloses sharing the information with the second network
`
`‘1502/’1503 Reply at 5
`
`‘1502/’1503 Reply at 10-12/8-10
`
`‘1502/’1503 PO Response at 34-37/31-34
`
`44
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 44
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`
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`‘705 (7 l,m,n) and ‘843 (51 m,n,o) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld Teach a “second”
`
`network
`
`‘1502/’1504 Petition at 68/27-28;‘1502/’1504 Reply at 22-23/10-12
`
`•
`
`PO’s arguments for claims 7 l,m,n (‘705 patent) and claims 21-23, 26-29, 38, 39, 41, 57, 58
`(‘843 patent) exclusively rely on the “no CAN” argument
`
`• The Board has already found that Miesterfeld discloses a CAN network:
`
`‘1502/’1504 Reply at 22-23/10-12; ‘457/458 FWD at 35-37/45-47
`
`‘502/504 Reply at 22-23/10-12; ‘457/458 FWD at 37-38/46-47,
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`45
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 45
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`
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`‘705 (7 l,m,n) and ‘843 (51 m,n,o) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld Teach a
`“second” network
`‘1502/’1504 Petition at 68/27-28;‘1502/’1504 Reply at 22-23/10-12
`
` No Dispute: Miesterfeld teaches an IDB network:
`
`(‘1502/’1504 PO Response at 12-13/28)
`
`‘1502 Petition at 66; Ex. 1009 (Miesterfeld) at 9:55-58;
`‘1504 Petition at 28; Ex. 1010 (Miesterfeld) at 9:55-58
`
` SAE J2366-2 describes in 2001 IDB as using CAN at the time of the
`invention:
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`‘1504 Reply at 11; Ex. 1023 (2001 IDB-C Spec) at 2, 15; see ‘1502 Reply at 22.
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`46
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 46
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`
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`‘705 (7 l,m,n) and ‘843 (51 m,n,o) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld Teach a
`“second” network
`1502/’1504 Petition at 68/27-28;‘1502/’1504 Reply at 22-23/10-12
`
` SAE J2366-2 describes the IDB standard that existed at the time of the
`invention as using the CAN protocol:
`
`‘1504 Reply at 12 (Ex. 1042 (Koopman Reply Decl.), ¶47); see
`‘1502 Reply at 22, (Ex. 1038 (Koopman Reply Decl.), ¶75)
`
`‘1504 Petition at 27-28; Ex. 1005 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶ 158; see
`‘1502 Reply at 22, (Ex. 1038 (Koopman Reply Decl.), ¶75)
`
`47
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 47
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`
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`‘705 (7 l,m,n) and ‘843 (51 m,n,o) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld Teach a
`“second” network
`1502/’1504 Petition at 68/27-28;‘1502/’1504 Reply at 22-23/10-12
`
` PO misapplies the law by arguing that a POSITA would only have
`considered the 1997 version of the IDB standard (JS2355):
`
`“A patent may not be obtained though the invention is not
`identically disclosed or described as set forth in section 102,
`if the differences between the subject matter sought to be
`patented and the prior art are such that the subject matter as a
`whole would have been obvious at the time the invention
`was made to a person having ordinary skill in the art to which
`said subject matter pertains.”
`
`‘1504 Reply at 11-12 (citing 35 U.S.C. §103(a) (pre-AIA); see ‘1502 Reply at 20-23
`
`48
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 48
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`
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`‘705 (7 l,m,n) and ‘843 (51 m,n,o) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld Teach a
`“second” network
`‘457 Petition at 67-68; ‘458 Petition at 70; ‘458 PO Resp. at 23-24; ‘458 PO Resp. at 22-24
`
` PO argues that a POSITA reading Miesterfeld would have
`only considered the 1997 version of the IDB spec
`
`(‘1504 Resp. at 28-29; ‘1502 Resp. at 53-54)
`
` The 1997 Standard:
`
` The 1997 version of the IDB standard also refers to the
`2001 version:
`
`‘1502/‘1504 Reply at 22-23/11-12, Ex. 2002 (IDB 1997 Spec) at 8; ‘1503
`Reply at 1-3, 8, ‘458 FWD at 45-47
`
`‘1502/‘1504 Reply at 22-23/10-12, Ex. 2002 (IDB 1997 Spec) at 3; ‘1503 Reply at
`1-3, 8, ‘458 FWD at 45-47
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`49
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`
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`‘705 (7f) and (51g) ‘843 Patents: Stewart Teaches “Sending a Notification”
`
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 20/17-18; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 9-10/7-8
`
`PO:
`
`‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Response at 30/27/23-25
`
`The Board has already rejected this argument:
`
`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 9-10/7-8/6-8, ‘457 FWD at 18; ‘458 FWD at 19
`
`50
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 50
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`
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`‘705 (7f) and (51g) ‘843 Patents: Stewart Teaches “Sending a Notification”
`
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 20/17-18; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 9-10/7-8
`
`PO:
`
`PO’s Expert:
`
`‘1502/’1503/’1504 PO Response at 30/27/23-25
`
`‘1502/‘1503/’1504 Reply at 9/5/7; Ex. 1040/1044/1044 Miller 2017 Dep.) at 117:7-25
`(objections omitted)
`
`’1502 Reply at 10; Ex. 1040 (Miller 2017 Dep.) at 122:9-23;
`‘1503 Reply at 8; Ex. 1044 (Miller 2017 Dep.) at 122:9-23
`‘1504 Reply at 8; Ex. 1039 (Miller 2017 Dep.) at 122:9-23
`
`51
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 51
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`
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`‘705 (7f) and (51g) ‘843 Patents: Stewart Teaches “Sending a Notification”
`
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 20/17-18; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 9-10/7-8
`
`‘1502 Petition at 20; Ex. 1007 (Stewart) at 1;
`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 17-18/10; Ex. 1008 (Stewart) at 1;
`
`‘1502 Petition at 20; Ex. 1007 (Stewart) at 11 of 13 (330);
`‘1503/’1504 Petition at 17-18/22; Ex. 1008 (Stewart) at 11 of 13 (330)
`
`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 9-10/7-8/6-8, ‘457 FWD at 18; ‘458 FWD at 18
`
`52
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 52
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`
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`‘705 (7f) and (51g) ‘843 Patents: Stewart Teaches “Sending a Notification”
`
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 20/17-18; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 9-10/7-8
`
`A POSITA would understand that “error handlers” send notifications:
`
`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 9-10/ 7-8/6-8
`
`Dr. Koopman:
`
`Dr. Miller:
`
`‘1503/’1504 Reply at 7-8/6-8; Ex. 1042 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶¶ 36-39;
`‘1502 Reply at 9-10; Ex. 1038 (Koopman Decl.) at ¶¶ 40-43
`
`‘1503/’1504 Reply at 7-8/6-8; Ex. 1044 (Miller 2017 Dep.) at 122-123;
`‘1502 Reply at 9-10; Ex. 1040 (Miller 2017 Dep.) at 122-123
`
`‘1503/’1504 Reply at 7-8/6-8 ; Ex. 1044 (Miller 2017 Dep.) at 114:7-116:10;
`‘1502 Reply at 9-10; Ex. 1040 (Miller 2017 Dep.) at 114:7-116:10
`
`53
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 53
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`
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`‘705 (7f) and (51g) ‘843 Patents: Stewart Teaches “Sending a Notification”
`
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 20/17-18; ‘1502/’1503 Reply at 9-10/7-8
`
`PO’s new evidence:
`
`‘Endo Pharm. V. Custopharm Inc., 894 F.3d 1374, 1381 (Fed. Cir. 2018);
`Southwire Co. v. Cerro Wire, 870 F.3d 1306, 1310-11 (Fed. Cir. 2017) (same
`proposition)
`
`PO is incorrect:
`
`Unigene Labs v. Apotex, 655 F.2d 1352, 1361 (Fed. Cir. 2011)
`
`Dystar Textilfarben GmbH v. C.H. Patrick., 464 F.3d 1356, 1367 (Fed. Cir. 2006)
`
`In Re Oetiker, 977 F.2d 1443, 14487 (Fed. Cir. 1992) (Nies, Concurring)
`
`54
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`
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`‘843 and ’705 Patents: Dependent claims
`
`‘1502/’1503 Petition at 42-51/38-83
`
` PO raises claim-specific arguments against Posadas and Miesterfeld only
`with respect to certain claims
`
` ‘1503 Petition/ (‘843 patent):
`
` Posadas: Claim specific arguments raised only for claims 3, 5-7, 15, 31, 34, 38, 39, 40, 44,
`52, 53 and 59
`
` ‘1504 Petition/ (‘843 patent):
`
` Miesterfeld: Claim specific arguments raised only for claims 3, 5, 6, 15, 16, 24, 31, 32, 34,
`44, 52, 53, and 59
`
` ‘1502 Petition/ (‘705 patent):
`
` Posadas/Miesterfeld: Claim specific arguments for claims 8, 10, 11, 18
`
`55
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`
`
`‘843 (claim 3) and ’705 (claim 8) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld disclose a
`bulletin board
`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 42,77-78/47-48/45
`
`‘843 claim 3:
`
`‘705 claim 8:
`
`•
`
`PO:
`
` Posadas’s “distributed blackboard” and Miesterfeld’s memory are not a “bulletin
`boards” ’1502/’1503/’1504 PO Response at 37-38/38-39/34-35
`
` PO’s arguments are based on improperly importing a single statement from the
`spec into the claims ’1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 12-13/13-14/15-18
`
` Both Posadas and Miesterfeld disclose a bulletin board even under PO’s overly
`restrictive construction ’1502/’1503/’1504 Reply at 12-13/13-14/15-18
`
`56
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 56
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`
`
`‘843 (claim 3) and ’705 (claim 8) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld discloses a bulletin
`board
`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 42,77-78/47-48/45
`
`•
`
`PO impermissibly compares
`the patent specification
`
`•
`
`to the prior art:
`
`• The ‘843 specification:
`
`‘1502/’1503 PO
`Resp. at 38/38-39
`
`‘1502/’1504 PO
`Resp. 55/35
`
`‘1502 Reply at 13; Ex. 1001 (‘705 patent) at 1:33-40;
`‘1503 Reply at 13-14; Ex. 1001 (‘843 patent) at 1:33-40;
`‘1504 Reply at 17; Ex. 1001 (‘843 patent) at 1:33-40
`
`‘1502 Reply at 13; Ex. 1001 (‘705 patent) at 6:22-33;
`‘1503 Reply at 13-14; Ex. 1001 (‘843 patent) at 6:22-33;
`‘1504 Reply at 17; Ex. 1001 (‘843 patent) at 6:22-33
`
`57
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 57
`
`
`
`‘843 (claim 3) and ’705 (claim 8) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld disclose a
`bulletin board
`1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 42,77-78/47-48/45
`
`•
`
`•
`
`Posadas discloses a Bulletin Board even under PO’s narrow construction
`
`PO’s expert:
`
`Dr. Miller (PO’s
`Expert)
`
`‘1502 Reply at 13; Ex. 1039 (Miller 2018 Dep.) at 99:11-100:6;
`‘1503 Reply at 13-14; Ex. 1043 (Miller 2018 Dep.) at 99:11-100:6
`
`58
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 58
`
`
`
`‘843 (claim 3) and ’705 (claim 8) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld disclose a
`bulletin board
`1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 42,77-78/47-48/45
`
`• Miesterfeld discloses a Bulletin Board even under PO’s narrow construction
`
`• The memory described in the ‘843/’705 patent is the same as Miesterfeld’s memory:
`
`‘1502/’1504 Reply at 25-26/17-18, Ex. 1001 (‘705/‘843 patent) at 6:4-10
`
`‘1504 Reply at 17-18, Ex. 1042 (Koopman Reply Decl.) at ¶ 57;
`‘1502 Reply at 23-26; Ex. 1038 (Koopman Reply Decl.) at ¶ 80
`
`59
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 59
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`
`
`‘843 (claim 3) and ’705 (claim 8) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld disclose a
`bulletin board
`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 42,77-78/47-48/45
`
`• Miesterfeld meets PO’s “Bulletin Board” requirements – it stores data that is addressed to
`“no particular person/process” – as admitted by PO’s expert:
`
`‘1504 Reply at 15-16, Ex. 1043 (Miller 2018 Dep.) at 87:20-25;
`1502 Reply at 23-24, Ex. 1039 (Miller 2018 Dep.) at 87:20-25
`
`‘1504 Reply at 15-16, Ex. 1010 (Misterfeld) fig. 5;
`1502 Reply at 23-24, Ex. 1009 (Misterfeld) fig. 5
`
`60
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 60
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`
`
`‘843 (claim 3) and ’705 (claim 8) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld disclose a
`bulletin board
`'1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 42,77-78/47-48/45
`
`• Miesterfeld meets PO’s “Bulletin Board” requirements – Miesterfeld stores “electronic
`messages, file, and/or other data that are of general interest/”
`
`Miesterfeld stores both (1) “files” and (2) “and/or
`other data:
`
`Just like the ‘843 patent:
`
`‘1504 Reply at 15-18, Ex. 1010 (Miesterfeld) at 3:35-39;
`‘1502 Reply at 23-26, Ex. 1009 (Miesterfeld) at 3:35-39
`
`‘1504 Reply at 17, Ex. 1001 (‘843 patent) at 6:22-25;
`‘1502 Reply at 25, Ex. 1001 (‘843 patent) at 6:22-25
`
`61
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`IPR-2017-01502 - Daimler Exhibit 1042, Page 61
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`
`
`‘843 (claim 32) and ’705 (claim 10) Patents: Posadas/Miesterfeld disclose temporally
`isolated processes
`‘1502/’1503/’1504 Petition at 43-44, 79-80/64-65/66-67; ‘1502/’1504 Reply at 13-16, 26-27/23-24
`
`‘843 claim 32:
`
`‘705 claim 10:
`
`•
`
`PO raises an “antecedent basis” argument based on independent claims;
`‘1502/’1504 PO Response at 38-39/44-47
`
`• The independent claims are not challenged here, and based on Board’s ’45