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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`TWITTER, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`VIDSTREAM LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2017-01131
`Patent 8,464,304
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`PETITIONER TWITTER, INC.’S
`ORAL HEARING DEMONSTRATIVE EXHIBITS
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`In accordance with the Order – Oral Hearing (Paper 62), Petitioner Twitter,
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`Inc. hereby submits its oral hearing demonstrative exhibits.
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`IPR2017-01131
`Patent 8,464,304
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`By: /Todd M. Siegel/
`Todd M. Siegel (Registration No. 73,232)
`todd.siegel@klarquist.com
`KLARQUIST SPARKMAN, LLP
`One World Trade Center, Suite 1600
`121 S.W. Salmon Street
`Portland, Oregon 97204
`Tel: 503-595-5300
`Fax: 503-595-5301
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`Counsel for Petitioner
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`Dated: October 17, 2018
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`Petitioner Twitter, Inc.’s Oral Hearing Demonstrative Exhibits
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`Page 1
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`IPR2017-01131
`Patent 8,464,304
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
`IN COMPLIANCE WITH 37 C.F.R. § 42.6(e)(4)
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`The undersigned certifies that on October 17, 2018, a complete copy of
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`Petitioner Twitter, Inc.’s Oral Hearing Demonstrative Exhibits was served on
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`counsel for VidStream LLC via electronic mail as follows:
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`Eagle Robinson – Lead Counsel
`eagle.robinson@nortonrosefulbright.com
`Eric Green – Back-Up Counsel
`eric.green@nortonrosefulbright.com
`Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP
`98 San Jacinto Blvd., Suite 1100
`Austin, TX 78701
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`Eric Hall – Back-Up Counsel
`Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP
`1301 McKinney St., Ste. 5100
`Houston, TX 77010
`eric.hall@nortonrosefulbright.com
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`By: /Todd M. Siegel/
`Todd M. Siegel (Registration No. 73,232)
`todd.siegel@klarquist.com
`KLARQUIST SPARKMAN, LLP
`One World Trade Center, Suite 1600
`121 S.W. Salmon Street
`Portland, Oregon 97204
`Tel: 503-595-5300
`Fax: 503-595-5301
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`Counsel for Petitioner
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Page 1
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`Petitioner
`Twitter, Inc.
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`U.S. Patent No. 8,464,304 - IPR2017-01131
`(claims 1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 11-17, 19-26, 28, 29, and 30)
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`U.S. Patent No. 8,601,506 - IPR2017-01133
`(claims 1, 4-8, 11, 13-15, 23-26, 29, and 30)
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`Robert T. Cruzen
`Todd M. Siegel
`Klarquist Sparkman, LLP
`October 19, 2018
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`Summary
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`1
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`IPR2017-01131
`• The ’304 Patent
`• Server-specified constraint
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`2
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`IPR2017-001133
`• The ’506 Patent
`• Time slot TV programming
`• Video length
`• Motivation to Combine
`• The prior art does not teach away
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`IPR2017-01131 (’304 Patent): Instituted Grounds
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`’304 IPR2017-01131, Inst. Dec. (Paper 8) at 5
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`’304 Patent: Summary
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`• Claim limitations and other secondary references that are not at issue
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`• Linear television programming
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`• Transcoding
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`• Distribution server
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`• Dependent claim limitations
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`• Combinations as a whole
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`’304 Patent: Overview
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`’304 Patent (Ex. 1001), Fig. 18
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`’304 Patent: Overview
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`’304 Patent (Ex. 1001) at claim 1
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`’304 Patent: Overview of Lahti
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`• Lahti discloses a video capture application that is
`downloaded from a server to mobile devices: MobiCon
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`• Lahti’s description of MobiCon discloses that the application
`constitutes server-provided instructions that specify a frame
`rate
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`Lahti (Ex. 1006) at 3, 6; Petition (Paper 1) at 21-23
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`’304 Patent: Lahti Teaches Server-Specified Constraints
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`Lahti’s Description of MobiCon
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`Lahti (Ex. 1006) at 6; Petition (Paper 1) at 19-21
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`’304 Patent: Lahti Teaches Server-Provided Constraints
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`Lahti (Ex. 1006) at 6; Petition (Paper 1) at 19-21
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`’304 Patent: Single Dispute
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`Dispute: Would POSITA understand Lahti to teach
`device-specified parameters only vs. MobiCon-
`specified parameters?
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`PO Response (Paper 50) at 9-12; Reply (Paper 53) at 8-14
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`’304 Patent: PO’s Reading of Lahti
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`• PO Relies on 3 Nokia Devices to Argue Lahti Discloses Device-
`specified Parameters Only
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`• PO Ignores All Other Devices
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`• PO Contends Separate Complex “Code Modules” Would Be
`Required and Would Dissuade POSITA From Specifying Parameters
`in an App
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`PO Response (Paper 50) at 18-21
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`’304 Patent: PO’s Reading of Lahti
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`PO’s Expert (Olivier) Testimony:
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`• “Exs. 2003 and 2004 indicate the camera phones available in 2006 captured video
`data with the parameters listed in Lahti (e.g., a resolution of 176x144 pixels and a
`frame rate of 15 frames per second). This alone strongly suggests that the
`parameters listed in Lahti were not governed or otherwise impacted by Lahti’s
`MobiCon application.”
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`Olivier Decl. (Ex. 2002), ¶ 70; PO Response (Paper 50 ) at 17
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`’304 Patent: Phone Parameters
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`• But the Underlying Assumption Causing PO Expert’s
`Interpretation of Lahti is Incorrect as a Matter of Fact
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`• Mobile Phones Did Have A Range of Parameters In 2006,
`Including a Variety of Selectable Frame Rates
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`• Exs. 1033, 1036, 1037, 1049, 1050
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`Reply (Paper No. 53) at 13-14; Ex. 1052 (Supp. Houh Decl.) ¶¶ 5-16.Exs. 1033, 1036, 1037, 1049, 1050
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`’304 Patent: PO’s Reading of Lahti
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`PO’s Expert (Olivier) Declaration:
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`• “[A]ll digital video data captured by camera phones (or by
`standalone digital cameras for that matter) inherently has a format
`(e.g., H.263), a resolution (e.g., 176x144), and a frame rate (e.g., 15
`frames per second)….For this reason, Lahti’s listing of the 3GPP
`specification, H.263 coding, a 176x144 pixel resolution, and 15
`frames per second is equally consistent with natively capturing
`video.”
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`Olivier Decl. (Ex. 2002), ¶58; PO Response (Paper 50) at 10
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`’304 Patent: Lahti Teaches Server-Provided Constraints
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`Lahti Discloses Using Vendor Provided SDKs for Video Capture
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`Lahti (Ex. 1006) at 3; Reply (Paper 53) at 3, 6-8
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`’304 Patent: PO’s Reading of Lahti
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`PO’s Expert (Olivier) Declaration:
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`“Attempting to govern or not govern the video-capture parameters on
`an ad-hoc basis depending on the model of camera phone would have
`required additional complexity and entire code modules not only to
`govern the video capture parameters, but also additional code
`modules to govern whether or not the video-capture-parameter code
`modules would be activated depending on the model of camera
`phone.”
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`Olivier Decl. (Ex. 2002), ¶72; PO Response (Paper 50) at 18
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`’304 Patent: PO’s Reading of Lahti
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`PO’s Expert’s (Olivier) Testimony:
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`Q. You don't believe that a person skilled in the art would be familiar with
`the Symbian operating system as of 2010?
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`A. Yes, I don't agree that they would know that.
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`(objection omitted)
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`Q.· But you agree that the Nokia that you relied on, the Nokia devices, used
`the Symbian operating system?
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`A.· ·Absolutely, I agree that some of them used -- yeah, used the Symbian
`operating system.
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`Olivier Deposition (Ex. 1051) at 115:9-14, 19-23; Reply (Paper 53) at 13-14
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`’304 Patent: Specifying Parameters
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`Specifying parameters including frame rate using Symbian OS employed
`by Nokia phones was straightforward:
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`“[T]o create an application which records video, the developer uses the
`EnumerateVideoFrameRates() and EnumerateVideoFrameSizes() API
`functions to read the capabilities of the underlying camera. Prior to
`starting to record video, the developer must use the
`PrepareVideoCaptureL() API function to specify both a frame size and a
`frame rate at which to record. There are no default values for the frame
`rate or the frame size.”
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`Reply (Paper 53) at 13-14; Supp. Houh Decl. (Ex. 1052), ¶14
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`’304 Patent: Specifying Parameters
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`“Dr. Olivier’s statements are contrary to what the Symbian operating
`system allowed at the time specifying frame rates, frame sizes, etc.,
`which would have been easily implemented by a POSITA independently
`of any specific camera model without any of the complex code modules
`Dr. Olivier claims is necessary.”
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`Reply (Paper 53) at 10-14; Supp. Houh Decl. (Ex. 1052), ¶16
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`’304 Patent: Lahti’s Disclosure Comparable to ’304 Patent’s
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`• Application of Fox, 471 F.2d 1405, 1407 (CCPA 1973) (the specification
`“assumes anyone desiring to carry out the process would know of the
`equipment and techniques being used, none being specifically
`described.”)
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`• In re Epstein, 32 F.3d 1559, 1568 (Fed. Cir. 1994) (that “appellant did
`not provide the type of detail in his specification that he now argues is
`necessary in prior art references supports the Board’s finding that one
`skilled in the art would have known how to implement the features of
`the references.”)
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`Reply (Paper 53) at 16
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`’304 Patent: Lahti’s Disclosure Comparable to ’304 Patent’s
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`Sur-reply pp. 22-23 quoted language
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`• ’304 patent at 10:57-11:8: “the application can enforce
`predetermined constraints on the captured video … ensure
`that the video is in condition to be rapidly transcoded …
`ensuring that the crowd-sourced video or other user-
`generated content complies with predetermined parameters”
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`• Claim 1: “… the video data to be captured in accordance with
`predetermined constraints …”
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`Sur-reply (Paper 60) at 22-23, ’304 Patent (Ex. 1001) at 10:57-11:8
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`’304 Patent: Lahti’s Disclosure Comparable to ’304 Patent’s
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`Patent Owner relies on specification at Sur-reply pp. 23-24:
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`• Cites ’304 patent at 11:20-35 discussing specifying a video length
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`• Cites ’304 patent at 21:58-66: “the website receives video and audio from the
`selected input devices through a communication interface on the user
`computer, and scripts provided in the retrieved web page encode in FLV format
`in accordance with quality parameters”
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`Sur-reply (Paper 60) at 23-24, ’304 Patent (Ex. 1001) at 11:20-35 & 21:58-66
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`’304 Patent: ’304’s Methodology Same As Lahti’s
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`’304 Patent (Ex. 1001), Fig. 18
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`’304 Patent: Lahti Teaches Server-specified Constraints
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`MobiCon’s UIManager: controller component for
`coordinating video capture
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`Lahti (Ex. 1006) at 5; Petition (Paper 1) at 19-21
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`’304 Patent: The ’304 Patent Description of Using APIs
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`Patent Describes Using APIs To Access Native
`Video Recording Capabilities:
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`’304 Patent (Ex. 1001) at 12:25-27
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`’304 Patent: Lahti Teaches Server-specified Constraints
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`Lahti (Ex. 1006) at 6Lahti (Ex. 1006) at 5; Petition (Paper 1) at 19-23
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`’304 Patent: Lahti Teaches Server-Specified Constraints
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`Lahti (Ex. 1006) at 6; Lahti (Ex. 1006) at 5; Petition (Paper 1) at 19-21
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`Summary
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`1
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`IPR2017-01131
`• The ’304 Patent
`• Server-specified constraints
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`2
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`IPR2017-001133
`• The ’506 Patent
`• Time slot TV programming
`• Video length
`• Motivation to Combine
`• The prior art does not teach away
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`Summary
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`• Claim limitations and other secondary references not at issue
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`• Linear television programming
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`• Transcoding
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`• Distribution server
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`• Dependent claim limitations
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`• No secondary considerations (other than PO’s “ teaching away” argument )
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`IPR2017-01133: Instituted Grounds
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`’506 IPR2017-01133, Inst. Dec. (Paper 8) at 5
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`’506 Patent Challenged Claims
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`’506 Patent (Ex. 1001) at claim 1
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`’506 Patent (Time Slot)
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`Novak: time slot in TV program
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`Petition (Paper 1) at 29-31; Houh Decl. (Ex. 1003), ¶¶ 82, 112-118; Novak (Ex. 1008), Fig. 7
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`’506 Patent (Video Length)
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`Ground 1: Conway discloses max clip length stored in clip rules database
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`Petition (Paper 1) at 28-29; Houh Decl. (Ex. 1003), ¶¶ 107-111; Conway (Ex. 1007), Fig. 1, ¶ 0032
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`’506 Patent (Video Length)
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`Ground 2: Current TV teaches short videos
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`Petition (Paper 1) at 65; Houh Decl. (Ex. 1003), ¶¶ 349-364; Current TV - FAQ (Ex. 1011) at 3, 6-7
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`’506 Patent (Video Length)
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`Patent specification suggests obviousness
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`‘506 Patent (Ex. 1001) at 19:32-64; Fig. 7; Reply (Paper 50) at 14-15;
`Houh Decl. (Ex. 1003), ¶ 77; Suppl. Houh Decl. (Ex. 1052), ¶ 24
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`Summary
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`1
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`IPR2017-01131
`• The ’304 Patent
`• Server-specified constraints
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`2
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`IPR2017-001133
`• The ’506 Patent
`• Time slot TV programming
`• Video length
`• Motivation to Combine
`• The prior art does not teach away
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`’506 Patent (Motivation to Combine)
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`Technical Field
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`’506 Patent (Olivier): “video recording and publishing across a communication
`network”
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`• Lahti: “We present a video management system comprising a video server and a
`mobile camera-phone application called MobiCon …”
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`• Novak: “The present invention relates generally to transmission of information,
`and in particular but not exclusively, relates to the transmission of audio and/or
`video information over communication channels that simulate television
`broadcast channels.”
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`Petition (Paper 1) at 14-19; Olivier Decl. (Ex. 2002), ¶ 36;
`Houh Decl. (Ex. 1003), ¶¶ 74-85; Lahti (Ex. 1006) at 1; Novak (Ex. 1008), ¶ 0003
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`’506 Patent (Motivation to Combine)
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`Technical Field
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`• Conway: “The following discussion generally relates to creating media clips from a media
`stream.”
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`• Current TV: “Don’t just watch content on your mobile phone, make content and let the
`world see it – on Current’s national TV network – now available in 28 million homes.”
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`Petition (Paper 1) at 14-19, 62-64; Conway (Ex. 1007), ¶¶ 0003;
`Current TV –Mobile-Create-Upload (Ex. 1009) at 2
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`’506 Patent (Motivation to Combine)
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`Complementary Teachings
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`• Lahti: video capture
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`• Novak: user-created videos for time slot TV programming
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`• Conway: rules for video clips
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`• Current TV: short, user-created videos for time slot TV programming
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`Petition (Paper 1) at 14-19, 62-64; Houh Decl. (Ex. 1003), ¶¶ 74-85, 349-360
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`’506 Patent (Motivation to Combine)
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`Ordinary Skill And Predictable Results
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`• Incorporating video length constraint requires ordinary skill
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`• Lahti discloses environment to support modification (e.g. HTTP
`server system)
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`• Simple, straightforward reprogramming of MobiCon client
`application
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`• No undue experimentation; predictable results
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`Petition (Paper 1) at 14-19, 62-64; Houh Decl. (Ex. 1003), ¶¶ 77, 349-360
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`’506 Patent (Motivation to Combine)
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`Preserve Resources; Improve Performance
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`Petition (Paper 1) at 16-17; Reply (Paper 50) at 23-24; Houh Decl. (Ex. 1003), ¶ 78, citing Lahti (Ex. 1006) at 1, 3
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`’506 Patent (Motivation to Combine)
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`Preserve Resources; Improve Performance
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`Petition (Paper 1) at 18; Houh Decl. (Ex. 1003), ¶ 83; Novak (Ex. 1008), ¶ 0050
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`Summary
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`1
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`IPR2017-01131
`• The ’304 Patent
`• Server-specified constraints
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`2
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`IPR2017-001133
`• The ’506 Patent
`• Time slot TV programming
`• Video length
`• Motivation to Combine
`• The prior art does not teach away
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`’506 Patent (No “Teaching Away”)
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`Law of “Teaching Away”
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`• “A reference that merely expresses a general preference for an
`alternative invention but does not criticize, discredit, or otherwise
`discourage investigation into’ the claimed invention does not
`teach away.” Meiresonnee v. Google, Inc., 849 F.3d 1379, 1382
`(Fed. Cir. 2017) (internal citations omitted)
`• Nidec Motor Corp. v. Zhongshan Borad Ocean Motor Co. Ltd., 868
`F.3d 1013, 1017-1018 (Fed. Cir. 2017) (aff’g Board’s finding of
`unpatentability where combination reference did not teach away
`from primary reference’s stated object of the invention)
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`Reply (Paper 50) at 16-17; Suppl. Houh Decl. (Ex. 1052), ¶¶ 21-25
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`’506 Patent (No “Teaching Away”)
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`Lahti Does Not Teach Away From Constraining Video Length
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`• Lahti not limited to home videos
`• Lahti does not state users must dictate all aspects of capture and
`management
`• POR at 36 relies on two partial quotes from two different
`sections of Lahti (pp. 3, 9) to try to limit Lahti’s “goal”
`• Does not criticize, discredit, discourage constraining video length
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`Reply (Paper 50) at 16-18; Suppl. Houh Decl. (Ex. 1052), ¶¶ 21-25
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`’506 Patent (No “Teaching Away”)
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`Lahti Does Not Teach Away From Constraining Video Length
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`• Lahti alternative storage solutions do not teach away
`• Mobile phone
`• Candela server
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`• Does not criticize, discredit, discourage constraining video length
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`Reply (Paper 50) at 16-17; Ex. 1006; Suppl. Houh Decl. (Ex. 1052), ¶¶ 21-25
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`’506 Patent (No “Teaching Away”)
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`Conway Does Not Teach Away From Constraining Video Length
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`• Conway teaches constraining video length
`• Conway’s clip rules server not incompatible with Lahti
`• Conway’s media player not relevant
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`Reply (Paper 50) at 18-20
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