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`APPLE, INC., )
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`ARCHITECTURE LLC, )
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` DEPOSITION OF ROBERT P. COLWELL, Ph.D.
` Menlo Park, CA
` Monday, February 27, 2017
` 1:30 p.m.
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`Reported by: SUSAN F. MAGEE, RPR, CCRR, CLR
`CSR No. 11661
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` DEPOSITION OF ROBERT P. COLWELL, Ph.D. taken on
` behalf of Patent Owner at FEINBERG, DAY,
` ALBERTI & THOMPSON LLP, 1600 El Camino Real,
` Suite 280, Menlo Park, CA 94025, beginning at
` 1:30 p.m. and ending at 1:50 p.m. on Monday,
` February 27, 2017, before Susan F. Magee, RPR,
` CCRR, CLR, Certified Shorthand Reporter
` No. 11661.
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`APPEARANCES:
` For the Petitioner:
` FEINBERG, DAY, ALBERTI & THOMPSON LLP
` DAVID ALBERTI, ESQ.
` YAKOV "JAKE" ZOLOTOREV, ESQ.
` 1600 El Camino Real
` Suite 280
` Menlo Park, CA 94025
` (650) 618-4361
` dalberti@feinday.com
` yzolotorev@feinday.com
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` HAYNES and BOONE, LLP
` MICHAEL S. PARSONS, ESQ.
` ADAM C. FOWLES, ESQ.
` CHRISTIAN B.E. HINES, ESQ.
` 2505 North Plano Road
` Suite 4000
` Richardson, TX 75082-4101
` (972) 739-8611
` michael.parsons@haynesboone.com
` adam.fowles@haynesboone.com
` christian.hines@haynes.boone.com
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`APPEARANCES (continued):
` For the Patent Owner:
` AHMAD ZAVITSANOS ANAIPAKOS ALAVI MENSING
` JUSTIN CHEN, ESQ.
` 1221 McKinney
` Suite 2500
` Houston, TX 77010
` (713) 655-1101
` jchen@azalaw.com
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` For HTC Corp. and HTC America, Inc.:
` SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP
` CURT HOLBREICH, ESQ.
` 555 California Street
` San Francisco, CA 94104
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` I N D E X
`DEPOSITION OF ROBERT P. COLWELL, Ph.D.
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`EXAMINATION BY PAGE
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` E X H I B I T S
`NUMBER DESCRIPTION PAGE
`Exhibit 11 Declaration of Robert Colwell, Ph.D. 7
` Under 37 C.F.R. Subsection 1.68 (85
` pages)
`Exhibit 12 Parthenon Unified Memory Architecture 7
` LLC's Notice of Deposition of Robert
` P. Colwell, Ph.D. (3 pages)
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` ROBERT P. COLWELL, Ph.D.,
`having been administered an oath, was examined and
`testified as follows:
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` MR. CHEN: So now I'd like to open the record
`for deposition in proceeding IPR2016-01135.
` (Exhibit 11, Declaration of Robert Colwell,
`Ph.D. Under 37 C.F.R. Subsection 1.68 (85 pages), was
`marked for identification by the court reporter and is
`attached hereto.)
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` EXAMINATION BY MR. CHEN
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` Q. You've been handed what's been marked as
`Exhibit 11, and Exhibit 11 is the declaration that you
`submitted in proceeding IPR2016-01135; is that correct?
` A. It doesn't say that on the front, so I don't
`know.
` (Exhibit 12, Parthenon Unified Memory
`Architecture LLC's Notice of Deposition of Robert P.
`Colwell, Ph.D. (3 pages), was marked for identification
`by the court reporter and is attached hereto.)
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` BY MR. CHEN:
` Q. You've been handed what's been marked as
`Exhibit 12, and Exhibit 12 is a deposition notice;
`right?
` A. Right.
` Q. And have you seen this before?
` A. No.
` Q. I'll notice in the middle it has the Case No.
`IPR2016-01135.
` Do you see that?
` A. I do.
` Q. And under that it says Patent 5,812,789.
` Do you see that?
` A. Yes.
` Q. And your declaration, which is Exhibit 11
`concerns that same patent; right?
` A. Right.
` Q. So is Exhibit 11 declaration that you submitted
`in proceeding IPR2016-01135?
` A. Is that a question?
` Q. Yeah.
` A. Yes, I agree.
` Q. Okay. If you'll take a look at the back of
`this declaration, is that your signature on page 85?
` A. It is.
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` Q. And you read this declaration carefully before
`signing it?
` A. Yes.
` Q. And did you write everything in this
`declaration?
` A. I -- it's the same answer as before. I
`probably didn't write every word.
` Q. So you wrote some words but not all the words
`of this declaration; is that correct?
` A. I certainly wrote some of them. I don't think
`I wrote them all.
` Q. And you had a chance to review and revise this
`declaration before you signed it?
` A. Repeatedly, sure.
` Q. And everything in here is accurate as far as
`you know?
` A. Yeah. As far as I know this is right.
` Q. And do you remember how long it took you to
`prepare this declaration?
` A. No. Same as before. It's too long ago. I
`don't remember.
` Q. And did you discuss this declaration with
`anyone other than Apple's counsel?
` A. Nope. That was it.
` Q. Did anyone tell you what should or not be in
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`your declaration at any point?
` A. Well, I remember discussing the sections that
`need to be there to make the document a coherent whole,
`but I don't remember anything being -- I don't remember
`being instructed that something has to stay out. That
`didn't happen.
` Q. And did you rely on anything for this
`declaration that's not cited in the declaration?
` A. No, I don't think so.
` (Exhibit 13, US Patent No. 5,001,625 (51
`pages), was marked for identification by the court
`reporter and is attached hereto.)
` BY MR. CHEN:
` Q. You've been handed what's been marked as
`Exhibit 13, and Exhibit 13 is the Thomas reference;
`right?
` A. Yes.
` Q. And it's also been identified as Exhibit 1007
`in this proceeding; correct?
` A. Correct.
` Q. If you look at column 16, and starting at line
`2 it says, "Thus, providing a duplex functioning of the
`system bus by allowing memory read transfers and data
`returns to take place on the same bus cycle."
` Do you see that?
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` A. I do.
` Q. So is there a maximum amount of information
`that the bus in Thomas can transfer during one bus
`cycle?
` A. Sure.
` Q. And is there a name for that maximum amount of
`information?
` A. People -- well, depends on what you mean.
`There -- people will refer to peak bus bandwidth.
`That's -- but in the case of Thomas, you may have
`multiple different accesses traversing the bus at the
`same time. The bus peak bandwidth doesn't change, but
`the bus bandwidth that they're experiencing is different
`because they're only using a -- you know, they're using
`a piece of it rather than all of it.
` And there's also based on the way you asked the
`question, I mean, you could have -- there -- there's a
`question of on any given instant what is the maximum
`bandwidth that the bus could be carrying, but there's
`also a concept of over some period of time what is the
`highest bandwidth that the bus could be carrying because
`that takes into account any overheads and the protocols
`and the arbitration and so on. So you might get a
`different answer depending on which one you meant.
` Q. What sort of time frame would you look at in
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`order to determine what the peak bus bandwidth is?
` A. Well, if you meant instantaneous peak bus
`bandwidth, that's just how many wires are there and how
`fast are you clocking this thing. In effect, it's a
`never-to-exceed number. No one can ever get more than
`this out of the bus.
` But if you're asking, for example, you're
`writing an app, and you want to run this app on that
`system, and you want to know is that bus going to be a
`bottleneck or not to your app, under those conditions
`you actually don't care about instantaneous peak
`bandwidth. You care about what is the effective highest
`bandwidth that you can get to.
` So I don't know if there's an official term for
`that, but that's effective is to distinguish it from
`theoretical peak.
` Q. So if a bus unit in Thomas utilized the full
`bus, it would be able to hit that instantaneous peak bus
`bandwidth; is that correct?
` A. If -- say it one more time.
` Q. So if a bus unit in Thomas were utilizing the
`full bus, could it use that instantaneous peak bus
`bandwidth?
` A. Well, I believe the bus is what Thomas calls a
`quadword in width. And in column 13, line 17 he says --
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`I assume it's a he. "Data transfers are a minimum of
`64-bit length and may be 128-bit (quadword) lengths."
` Since I think that's as wide as the bus is,
`that would be -- then the answer to your question would
`be yes, a single transfer can use the whole width of the
`bus.
` Q. And sort of a similar question.
` If a bus unit in Thomas is utilizing the full
`bus, it can use the effective peak bus bandwidth; is
`that correct?
` A. I don't remember at the moment how -- whether
`there's overhead imposed by the arbitration scheme, and
`I also don't remember whether the address is a separate
`bus or a separate set of wires or not. And why that
`matters is, if the address is on its own set of wires,
`then the full bandwidth of the data bus is available in
`theory on every clock cycle as long as the arbitration
`doesn't represent some overhead to that.
` But if -- so if the arbitration is such that it
`doesn't represent overhead and the address is done so
`that you can have overlap, the next address with the
`tail end of the previous data transfer, then -- I forgot
`your question. Then you can use the full peak bandwidth
`of the bus.
` Q. Right. So my question was just directed to the
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`effective peak bus bandwidth, which I understood to mean
`that it would incorporate all of this arbitration
`overhead, so I guess I'll ask it again.
` If a bus unit in Thomas uses the full bus, can
`it utilize the full effective peak bus bandwidth?
` A. Well, it will always use effective. I
`understood your question to mean can -- could effective
`bandwidth ever be the same as peak bandwidth. That's
`not what you meant.
` Q. No, no.
` A. Sorry. I'm not tracking you yet.
` Q. Yeah. It's actually very similar to the first
`question.
` If a bus unit you're using the full bus, can
`you use the full effective peak bus bandwidth?
` A. I -- I guess I thought the terms as used by me
`moments ago, I -- what I intended to convey was there
`could be a difference between effective bandwidth and
`peak bandwidth. And if we're going to just communally
`decide or define effective peak bandwidth to mean the
`highest sustained bandwidth you can have, then that's
`what you would get.
` And if you had a single bus unit trying to get
`on a bus. And as it -- while it was using that bus,
`what it would get is the effective peak by that
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`definition, but I think we're making up a definition
`there that's not in here.
` Q. Yeah. Maybe my questions will make sense once
`I ask you the next question.
` So if a bus unit in Thomas uses half of the
`bus, can it use the full instantaneous peak bus
`bandwidth?
` MR. ALBERTI: Objection to form.
` THE WITNESS: Well, no. By definition if
`you're not using all of the data bits on a bus, then
`there's bandwidth available there that you're not --
`that you're leaving. You're leaving on the table, so
`you're going to experience less than peak theoretical
`bandwidth.
` BY MR. CHEN:
` Q. And in a situation where a bus is using half of
`the bus, would you expect the peak bus bandwidth that it
`can use to be half of the total peak bus bandwidth?
` A. Well, I would expect it to be no higher than
`that. Might be lower if there's additional overhead
`involved.
` Q. The bus in Thomas can perform multiple bus
`transactions simultaneously; is that correct?
` A. Yeah. I have that understanding.
` Q. When there are simultaneous bus transactions,
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`only use half of the bus; is that correct?
` MR. ALBERTI: Objection to form.
` THE WITNESS: Well, the thing -- the
`specification text that I cited earlier from column 13,
`it says, The minimum is a double word, which is 64 bits,
`and the bus is quad word 128, so that's half, yeah. So
`I guess that's the minimum.
` BY MR. CHEN:
` Q. If you look at column 15, and around line 40 it
`says, "In the present embodiment, the BLREQA13P line 502
`and the BLREQD13P 504 line carry a two-bit signal to the
`bus arbiter 251, which is indicative of whether the
`requesting system unit is requesting system bus access
`to perform a full bus transfer or a half bus transfer,
`such as a memory read transfer or a data return
`transfer."
` Do you see that?
` A. I do.
` Q. And so the bus system in Thomas can support two
`bus transfers simultaneously; is that correct?
` A. I think that's right.
` Q. Can it support two full bus transfers
`simultaneously?
` A. No, because that -- a full bus transfer by
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`definition uses all the wires.
` Q. So the only situation where Thomas' bus can
`support simultaneous bus transactions is when both of
`the transactions are half bus transfers; is that
`correct?
` A. That's my understanding, yeah.
` Q. Does Thomas disclose real-time decoding?
` A. Thomas -- I think the answer is not directly.
`Thomas concentrates on sharing the bus resource among
`multiple agents on the bus, and he -- in his examples he
`refers to CPUs for those agents. He does point out, and
`as I said in my declaration, he points out that the bus
`is designed to support, in quotes, diverse applications,
`and I think it's a reasonable thing to assume that that
`means -- that could mean a real-time workload, but
`it's -- he doesn't directly -- he doesn't directly
`disclose that.
` MR. CHEN: All right. I'll pass the witness
`for this proceeding.
` MR. ALBERTI: Can we have a five-minute break?
` MR. CHEN: Yeah, sure.
` (Recess taken from 1:50 p.m. to 1:58 p.m.)
` MR. ALBERTI: We have no further questions.
` MR. CHEN: All right. We can close the record
`for this proceeding. I think we're done today.
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` I, ROBERT P. COLWELL, Ph.D., do hereby certify
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`testimony taken on 2/27/17, and further certify
`that it is a true and accurate record of my
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`Reporter of the State of California, do hereby certify:
` That the foregoing proceedings were taken
`before me at the time and place herein set forth; that
`any witnesses in the foregoing proceedings, prior to
`testifying, were administered an oath; that a record of
`the proceedings was made by me using machine shorthand
`which was thereafter transcribed under my direction;
`that the foregoing transcript is a true record of the
`testimony given.
` Further, that if the foregoing pertains to the
`original transcript of a deposition in a Federal Case,
`before completion of the proceedings, review of the
`transcript [ ] was [X] was not requested.
` I further certify I am neither financially
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`17:18 20:18
`witnesses 20:5
`word 9:7 16:6,7
`words 9:8,8
`workload 17:15
`write 9:4,7
`writing 12:8
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`PUMA Exhibit 2004
`HTC v. PUMA, IPR2017-00512
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