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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`APPLE INC.,
`Petitioner
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`v.
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`REALTIME DATA, LLC D/B/A/ IXO,
`Patent Owner
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`Case IPR2016-01739
`Patent 8,880,862
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`PATENT OWNER REALTIME DATA, LLC D/B/A IXO’S LIST OF
`PETITIONER’S IMPROPER REPLY ARGUMENTS
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`Pursuant to the Board’s authorization on October 10, 2017, Patent Owner
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`Realtime Data, LLC d/b/a IXO (“Realtime”) submits the following list of the
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`locations and concise descriptions of the portions of Petitioner’s Reply (Paper 17)
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`that exceed the proper reply scope. If the Board were to rely on these arguments
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`and evidence in finding the challenged claims unpatentable, Realtime would not
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`have had sufficient opportunity to respond.
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`1)
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`At pages 5-7 of the Reply, Petitioner argues that “non-accessed boot data”
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`should be construed to mean “boot data that was not accessed.” For example:
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`“[U]nder BRI, a POSITA would have viewed the term ‘non-accessed
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`boot data’ per its ordinary meaning as simply boot data that was not
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`accessed.” (Reply at 5.)
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`2)
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`At pages 7-13 of the Reply, Petitioner argues that Settsu’s OS functional
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`module files inherently disclose or render obvious the limitation “boot data list.”
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`For example:
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`“However, Apple argued that Settsu’s files are themselves lists of
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`boot data ….” (Id. at 9.)
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`“As Dr. Neuhauser explained, a list is an obvious representation for a
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`collection of information and, thus, Settsu’s OS files represent lists of boot
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`data.” (Id. at 9.)
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`“Further, Settsu’s FIG. 36 (below) illustrates that each of Settsu’s OS
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`program files are divided into mini OS and OS main body modules, and that
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`these modules each include header, code, and data portions. APPLE-1006,
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`23:48-24:62, FIGS. 34-35.
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`APPLE-1006, FIG. 12 (excerpt, annotated).” (Id. at 9-10.)
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`“Settsu describes that the contents of the headers included in the files
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`are used to search for code and data portions of these modules when loading
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`those portions into memory 2 during the boot process.” (Id. at 10.)
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`“Thus, a POSITA would have understood that Settsu’s OS functional
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`module file stored on boot device 3 and preloaded into memory 2 includes a
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`list of data necessary for starting the OS – a boot data list as described by the
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`’862 Patent.” (Id. at 10-11.)
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`“Thus, headers in Settsu’s modules are lists of boot data.” (Id. at 11 n.
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`1.)
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`3)
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`At pages 15-16 of the Reply, Petitioner argues that the combination of Settsu
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`and Zwiegincew renders obvious the limitation “updating the boot data list”
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`because there is a benefit to Zwiegincew’s teachings upon loading Settsu’s virtual
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`memory processing module. For example:
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`“And, even assuming Realtime is correct, Realtime does not consider
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`the benefit of using Zwiegincew’s techniques for the remainder of the boot
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`process after Settsu’s ‘virtual memory processing module’ has loaded or a
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`POSITA’s ability to modify Settsu to implement Zwiegincew’s page
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`preloading during boot.” (Id. at 16.)
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`4)
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`At pages 21-22 of the Reply, Petitioner argues that Zwiegincew renders
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`obvious the “plurality of encoders” limitations. For example:
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`“Regarding Ground 2, Realtime argues that Petitioner ‘cites to the
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`teachings of Dye[]—not to Zwiegincew—and Dr. Neuhauser does not cite to
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`any evidence.’ POR, 44-45. However, the cited portion of the Petition
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`discusses that Zwiegincew provides motivation to a POSITA for
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`compressing boot data, and that it was ‘well-known to utilize a plurality of
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`encoders to encode compressed data.’ Petition, 55; APPLE-1003, ¶¶190-
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`192.” (Id. at 22.)
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`5)
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`At pages 23-25 of the Reply, Petitioner argues that Dye’s compression
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`engines and components that perform encoding operations meet the “plurality of
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`encoders” limitations. For example:
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`“Indeed, a component that performs encoding operations is commonly
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`understood to be an encoder. Because Realtime admits that Dye has a
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`plurality of components that each perform encoding operations, Realtime
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`itself acknowledges that Dye includes a plurality of encoders.” (Id. at 24
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`(internal citations omitted).)
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`“Specifically, Dye contemplates multiple compression engines.
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`Because Dye’s compression engine is an encoder (as Realtime admits),
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`Dye’s multiple compression engines represent multiple encoders.” (Id. at 25
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`(internal citations omitted).)
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`Respectfully Submitted,
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`Date: October 13, 2017
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` /Joseph F. Edell/
`Joseph F. Edell (Reg. No. 67,625)
`Richard Z. Zhang (Reg. No. 73,397)
`Fisch Sigler LLP
`5301 Wisconsin Avenue NW
`Fourth Floor
`Washington, DC 20015
`Phone: (202) 362-3527
`Fax: (202) 362-3501
`Email: Joe.Edell.IPR@fischllp.com
`Email: Richard.Zhang.IPR@fischllp.com
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`Desmond S. Jui (pro hac vice)
`Fisch Sigler LLP
`96 North Third Street
`Suite 260
`San Jose, CA 95112
`Phone: (650) 362-8209
`Email: Desmond.Jui.IPR@fischllp.com
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`William P. Rothwell (Reg. No. 75,522)
`Noroozi PC
`2245 Texas Drive, Suite 300
`Sugar Land, TX 77479
`Phone: (281) 566-2685
`Email: William@nooozipc.com
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`Kayvan B. Noroozi (pro hac vice)
`Noroozi PC
`1299 Ocean Avenue, Suite 450
`Santa Monica, CA 90401
`Phone: (310) 975-7074
`Email: Kayvan@noroozipc.com
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`I hereby certify that on October 13, 2017, a true and correct copy of the
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`foregoing Patent Owner’s List of Petitioner’s Improper Reply Arguments,
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`Petitioner argues is being served electronically to the Petitioner at the
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`correspondence email addresses of record provided in the Petition as follows:
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`W. Karl Renner (Lead Counsel) IPR39521-0025IP3@fr.com
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`Respectfully Submitted,
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`Date: October 13, 2017
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` /Joseph F. Edell/
`Joseph F. Edell (Reg. No. 67,625)
`Fisch Sigler LLP
`5301 Wisconsin Avenue NW
`Fourth Floor
`Washington, DC 20015
`Phone: (202) 362-3527
`Fax: (202) 362-3501
`Email: Joe.Edell.IPR@fischllp.com
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