`U.S. Patent No. 6,538,324
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company Limited
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`Godo Kaisha IP Bridge 1
`Patent Owner.
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`Inter Partes Review No. IPR2016-01249
`U.S. Patent No. 6,538,324
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`PETITIONER’S RESPONSES TO PATENT OWNER’S MOTION FOR
`OBSERVATIONS REGARDING THE
`CROSS-EXAMINATION OF SANJAY K. BANERJEE, PH.D.
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`Petitioner provides the following responses to Patent Owner’s observations
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`on the cross-examination testimony of Sanjay K. Banerjee, Ph.D. (Paper 28).
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`Response to Observation No. 1:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 53:3-16) is misleading and incomplete.
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`His testimony at 52:3-53:16, which includes Patent Owner’s cited testimony,
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`merely agreed with the M.P.E.P.’s statement that the phrase “composed of” may
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`mean “consisting essentially of” depending on the context:
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`Q So would it be fair to say under the broadest reasonable
`interpretation of the claims of the ’324 patent that the word
`“composed” or “composed of,” as it appears in the claims of the
`’324 patent, means consisting essentially of --
` MR. KABAKOFF: Objection to form.
`By MR. FINK:
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`-- as that was defined on the previous page [of the M.P.E.P.]?
`A Yes. But as it says, it depends on the facts of that particular
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`Id., 53:3-13. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony does not contradict Petitioner’s argument
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`that the intrinsic evidence of the ’324 patent supports an interpretation of
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`“composed of” that allows for portions of the film to be solely tantalum metal
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`(β-Ta) without nitrogen. Reply (Paper 19), 6.
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`Response to Observation No. 2:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 54:7-18) is incomplete and misleading.
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`Dr. Banerjee was merely agreeing with a statement in the M.P.E.P. presented for
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`the first time at his deposition. He further testified that “composed of” means
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`added materials cannot impact the adhesive properties of the upper surface of the
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`film and the blocking capabilities of the lower portion of the film:
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`Q So you would understand reading the claims of the ’324
`patent where it used composed of should mean consisting
`essentially of?
`A Yes, essentially of, as in you do not negatively impact the
`adhesive properties of the copper to that film.
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`Q So the only part of the film then you care about is the surface?
`You don’t care about the rest of the film?
`A No. You care about everything: the surface in terms of the
`adhesion and the lower part in terms of the blocking capabilities of
`the copper.
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`Id., 54:20-55:3, 55:16-21.
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`Dr. Banerjee’s testimony supports Petitioner’s argument that the intrinsic
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`evidence of the ’324 patent supports an interpretation of “composed of” that allows
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`for the inclusion of other materials. Reply, 6. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony contradicts
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`Patent Owner’s argument that “a crystalline metal film containing nitrogen
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`therein” cannot contain any amount of “pure metal,” “amorphous metal nitride,” or
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`“crystalline metal nitride.” POR (Paper 14), 14.
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`Response to Observation No. 3:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 56:4-13) is incomplete. In the cited
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`testimony, Dr. Banerjee was merely agreeing with a statement in the M.P.E.P.
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`presented for the first time at his deposition. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony supports
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`Petitioner’s argument that the intrinsic evidence of the ’324 patent supports an
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`interpretation of “composed of” that allows the top film to have pockets of beta-
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`tantalum crystallites having no nitrogen. Reply, 6.
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`Response to Observation No. 4:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 115:1-116:15) is incomplete. Moreover,
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`his testimony about whether the district court’s construction, based on a different
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`standard, appears “reasonable” is irrelevant. Cuozzo Speed Techs., LLC v. Lee, 136
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`S. Ct. 2131 (2016). Dr. Banerjee testified he did not know how the district court
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`arrived at its construction:
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`BY MR. FINK:
`Q … Why should the Board accept your understanding of how
`a person of ordinary skill in the art would construe the phrase “said
`first film being composed of crystalline metal containing nitrogen
`therein” as to -- as opposed to accepting the District Court’s claim
`interpretation?
` MR. KABAKOFF: Objection, form.
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`THE WITNESS: I don’t know if the District Court went
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`through this discussion that we had earlier about the heterogeneity
`of the films versus homogeneity of the films and all that but --
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`Id., 122:15-123:5; see also 121:5-10.
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`Dr. Banerjee’s testimony supports Petitioner’s argument that the Board
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`should reject Patent Owner’s attempts to import an unclaimed limitation of a
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`crystalline metal containing nitrogen “throughout” based on manufacturing
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`methods disclosed in embodiments of the ’324 patent. Reply, 3-4.
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`Response to Observation No. 5:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 48:6-51:12) is incomplete. His cited
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`testimony relates to whether adding amorphous tantalum nitride to a crystalline
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`metal film would affect the properties of the film, which he later testified would
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`depend on the amount of amorphous nitride added:
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`In your opinion would composed of be interpreted to mean
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`comprising, which is more open ended?
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`I mean, if you look at the objectives of the ’324 patent, the
`role of the first film is to enable the copper to stick very well to
`that first film, so as long as the crystalline component of that was
`large enough to enable good adhesion properties, that’d be okay.
`But if you kept adding more and more of this amorphous nitride
`where it causes the copper to delaminate, I don’t think that would
`be okay.
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`Id., 53:17-54:6; see also 54:20-55:3. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony supports Petitioner’s
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`argument that the intrinsic evidence supports an interpretation of “composed of”
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`that allows for the inclusion of other materials. Reply, 6. His testimony also
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`supports Petitioner’s arguments concerning the interface of Zhang’s top and
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`bottom barrier films. Id., 9-10. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony contradicts Patent
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`Owner’s argument that “a crystalline metal film containing nitrogen therein”
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`cannot contain any amount of “pure metal,” “amorphous metal nitride,” or
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`“crystalline metal nitride.” POR, 14.
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`Response to Observation No. 6:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 17:3-10) is not relevant to this
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`proceeding because in Exhibit 2044, 14:8-17:21, Dr. Banerjee explained his
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`experience with sputtering transition metals in the same category as tantalum prior
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`to 1999. See id., 15:17-18. Dr. Banerjee, a professor at the University of Texas,
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`also testified that he has been teaching a graduate course on semiconductor device
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`fabrication since 1987 “where we discuss all these aspects in the course.” Id.,
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`17:14-21.
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`Response to Observation No. 7:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 18:12-19:7) is not relevant to this
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`proceeding because in Exhibit 2044, 17:22-20:3, Dr. Banerjee explained that he
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`has experience with measuring nitrogen concentrations in similar materials prior to
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`1999. See id., 15:17-18. Dr. Banerjee also testified that he has been teaching a
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`graduate course on semiconductor device fabrication since 1987 “where we discuss
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`all these aspects in the course.” Id., 17:14-21.
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`Response to Observation No. 8:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 94:8-96:14) contradicts Patent Owner’s
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`arguments that shutting off the nitrogen flow during sputtering results in a film
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`with no nitrogen (POR, 29-30), because Dr. Banerjee’s cited testimony explains
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`that shutting off the nitrogen flow results in a film with a “tail of nitrogen” as
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`Petitioner submits and Zhang discloses.
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`Q And then when you shut off the nitrogen flow, you -- the
`result would be pure tantalum?
`A But the devil’s in the details. So if you just shut off the
`nitrogen but then kept the sputtering process going between layer
`15 and 16, presumably there’d be a tail of nitrogen, and then it
`would gradually die off.
`Q And then it will be pure tantalum?
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`If you went thick enough where the nitrogen was essentially
`pumped out of the chamber.
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`Exhibit 2044, 95:9-18. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony supports Petitioner’s arguments,
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`and Zhang’s express disclosures, of a decreasing nitrogen concentration throughout
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`the thickness of the top film 32 in Zhang. Reply, 7-12. Moreover, the cited
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`testimony is in response to Patent Owner’s question on how Nogami forms a layer
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`of pure tantalum and thus is not relevant to whether shutting off nitrogen flow will
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`necessarily result in a pure surface of tantalum.
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`Response to Observation No. 9:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 36:4-16) does not contradict Petitioner’s
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`assertions, as Patent Owner contends. Dr. Banerjee testified that the claimed “first
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`film” allows some amount of amorphous tantalum nitride so long as it would not
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`impact the properties of that film:
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`In your opinion would composed of be interpreted to mean
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`comprising, which is more open ended?
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`I mean, if you look at the objectives of the ’324 patent, the
`role of the first film is to enable the copper to stick very well to
`that first film, so as long as the crystalline component of that was
`large enough to enable good adhesion properties, that’d be okay.
`But if you kept adding more and more of this amorphous nitride
`where it causes the copper to delaminate, I don’t think that would
`be okay.
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`Id., 53:17-54:6. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony supports Petitioner’s argument that the
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`intrinsic evidence of the ’324 patent supports an interpretation of “composed of”
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`that allows for the inclusion of other materials. Reply, 6. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony
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`contradicts Patent Owner’s argument that “a crystalline metal film containing
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`nitrogen therein” cannot contain any amount of “pure metal,” “amorphous metal
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`nitride,” or “crystalline metal nitride.” POR, 14.
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`Response to Observation No. 10:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 100:6-13) is not relevant because Dr.
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`Banerjee was asked to compare a layer of pure tantalum to a layer of tantalum
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`nitride rather than to a film composed of “crystalline metal containing nitrogen
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`therein” as claimed. In Exhibit 2044, 100:14-102:7, Dr. Banerjee explained that a
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`surface of pure tantalum would provide better adhesion to copper than a tantalum
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`film with nitrogen but only if the amount of nitrogen in the tantalum film “messed
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`up” the wetting and adhesion properties of the copper:
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`Q So at the time of the invention of the ’324 patent, would the
`understanding of a person of ordinary skill in the art be that a
`surface of pure tantalum would give better adhesion than a layer of
`tantalum with nitrogen, all things the same?
` MR. KABAKOFF: Objection, form.
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`THE WITNESS: A surface of pure tantalum would give better
`adhesion than tantalum with nitrogen if the amount of nitrogen that
`you added messed up the crystalline structure of the tantalum
`nitride -- I shouldn’t use the word “tantalum nitride” -- the
`tantalum nitrogen alloy to the extent that it messed up the wetting
`and the adhesion properties of the copper.
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`Id., 101:3-16. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony supports Petitioner’s argument that a small
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`amount of nitrogen in a tantalum film would not affect the adhesion properties of
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`the film. Petition (Paper 2), 32.
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`Response to Observation No. 11:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 101:3-102:7) does not contradict
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`Petitioner’s arguments because Dr. Banerjee explained sufficient nitrogen needs to
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`be added to a tantalum film before affecting the adhesion properties to copper.
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`Dr. Banerjee also testified there are other reasons for adding nitrogen, including
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`improving polishing of subsequently deposited copper:
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`I’m just asking -- you’re asking for adhesion. You said the
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`desire is for adhesion. Doesn’t pure tantalum adhere better to
`copper than tantalum nitride?
` MR. KABAKOFF: Objection to form.
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`THE WITNESS: But there’s many aspects with a problem.
`Not only do you want things to adhere. There’s things like, you
`know, subsequent to the deposition of the copper you have to
`polish it down using chemical mechanical polishing, and there’s
`cited art where if you have a little bit of nitrogen added to the
`tantalum, it doesn’t degrade the crystalline properties. It’s an
`optimization problem, an engineering problem.
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`Id., 99:1-21.
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`Response to Observation No. 12:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 109:5-111:15) is not relevant to this
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`proceeding because Dr. Banerjee was discussing the increase of resistivity in the
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`context of Exhibit 1033. In Exhibit 2044, 118:19-119:11, Dr. Banerjee further
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`testified that adding a small amount of nitrogen would generally cause an initial
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`decrease of resistivity:
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`In general, what effect does adding a small amount of
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`nitrogen to a tantalum film have on the resistivity of the film?
` MR. FINK: Object to form.
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`THE WITNESS: But in the ’324 patent there’s actually a
`figure. Figure 9 is an exemplary plot of how resistivity depends on
`nitrogen flow rate and sputtering power, and it shows that for low
`nitrogen concentrations there’s a decrease of resistivity, but then
`higher nitrogen concentrations, the resistivity goes up.
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`Id., 119:1-11. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony supports Petitioner’s argument that a
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`POSITA would have known that adding a small amount of nitrogen in a tantalum
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`film reduces its resistivity. Reply, 24. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony contradicts Patent
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`Owner’s contention that introducing nitrogen into a tantalum film has a
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`“deleterious effect on resistivity.” POR, 51.
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`Response to Observation No. 13:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 119:1-18) demonstrates the ’324 patent
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`confirms the addition of a small amount of nitrogen causes an initial decrease of
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`resistivity in a tantalum film, as was well understood in the art at the time of the
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`’324 patent, for example, as taught in Exhibits 1015 and 2042. Reply, 24; see also
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`Ex. 1036, 125:3-20. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony contradicts Patent Owner’s
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`contention that introducing nitrogen into a tantalum film has a “deleterious effect
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`on resistivity.” POR, 51.
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`Response to Observation No. 14:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 36:18-39:4) demonstrates Dr. Banerjee
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`applied the broadest reasonable interpretation (BRI) to the terms “amorphous” and
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`“crystalline” based on the ’324 patent. See also id., 26:1-7. In Exhibit 2044, 36:17-
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`38:12 and 92:3-10, Dr. Banerjee applied the BRI to the term “amorphous,”
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`including both “very, very small grain” crystals as well as amorphous metal
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`nitride. See also id., 92:3-10:
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`Q Why? It says two layers.
`A No. The goal of ’324 is to have a top film with large
`crystalline grains so that the copper can attach to that, and the
`fourth film in Nogami corresponds to that, and there should be a
`lower layer with small grain or amorphous tantalum nitride so that
`it can block the diffusion of the copper. That’s the essence of the
`’324 patent.
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`Dr. Banerjee’s testimony contradicts Patent Owner’s arguments concerning the
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`claim construction of “amorphous.” POR, 15-16. In Exhibit 2044, 39:18-40:2, His
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`testimony further demonstrates he applied the BRI to the term “crystalline metal,”
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`including both “crystalline” or “large grain polycrystalline grains.” See also id.,
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`26:1-7.
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`Response to Observation No. 15:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 94:4-95:1) supports Petitioner’s position
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`that the top film in Nogami can be a tantalum film containing nitrogen. See also
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`id., 117:21-118:18; cf. Allergan, Inc. v. Apotex Inc., 754 F.3d 952, 959 (Fed. Cir.
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`2014) (finding optional components disclosed in prior art can anticipate a claim
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`element); KSR Int’l Co. v. Teleflex Inc., 550 U.S. 398, 421 (2007) (holding a
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`combination may be obvious if there are only a finite number of identified,
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`predictable solutions, with a reasonable expectation of success). Further, the cited
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`testimony shows the meaning of “pure” depends on context, consistent with
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`Petitioner’s argument that Ding uses “pure” in distinguishing a single-layer barrier
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`film from a multi-layer barrier film. Reply, 15.
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`Response to Observation No. 16:
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`In the cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 87:14-88:5), Dr. Banerjee testified that
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`“Ta” is the symbol for tantalum. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony supports Petitioner’s
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`arguments that β-Ta in the ’324 patent lacks nitrogen therein. Paper 20, 22.
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`Response to Observation No. 17:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 67:9-17) does not support any proposed
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`construction of “throughout” in Substitute Claim 11 because neither party proposed
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`a construction for that term. Dr. Banerjee’s also just provided his understanding of
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`the claimed phrase.
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`Response to Observation No. 18:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 57:4-63:8) does not support Patent
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`Owner’s arguments that nitrogen must be throughout the claimed “first film”
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`because Dr. Banerjee testified (e.g., id., 61:4-64:4 and 57:4-17) the top film
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`described in the ’324 patent would include pockets of beta-tantalum crystallites
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`having no nitrogen:
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`Q So if the tantalum nitrogen is on the top, middle, and bottom,
`isn’t that the same as saying there would be nitrogen on the top,
`bottom, and middle?
` MR. KABAKOFF: Objection to form.
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`THE WITNESS: Once again, we are looking at now a
`heterogeneous system where there would be pockets of nitrogen
`where the tantalum nitrogen .1 crystallites lie, and there would be
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`pockets which are deficient in terms of nitrogen, which are these
`beta tantalum crystallites ….
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`Id., 61:4-14. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony supports Petitioner’s arguments that
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`“therein” does not mean “throughout” because the first film contains localized
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`regions containing only tantalum metal (β-Ta). Reply, 6. Dr. Banerjee’s testimony
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`further supports Petitioner’s arguments that the intrinsic evidence supports a broad
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`interpretation of “composed of” by allowing the first film to include regions of
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`tantalum metal (β-Ta) that are not “consisting essentially of crystalline metal
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`containing nitrogen therein.” Id.
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`Response to Observation No. 19:
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`The cited testimony (Exhibit 2044, 76:12-80:3, 83:19-84:1, 85:11-16)
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`supports Petitioner’s arguments that a solid solution requires a homogenous
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`mixture of a substance in a single solid phase. Dr. Banerjee testified that multiple
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`phases mixed together, such as the mixture of beta-tantalum and TaN0.1 phases in
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`the ’324 patent, is not a solid solution:
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`Q So depending upon how you look at it, what scale, it may be a
`solid solution or it might not be a solid solutions; is that right?
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`A You have to look at length scales larger than atomic length
`scales because in a solid solution, because of these random
`locations of atoms, you will also have solute rich regions and
`solute poor regions, but that doesn’t -- that doesn’t imply that it is
`not a solid solution, but if you have multiple phases mixed together
`where on larger length scales it is homogeneous, that is not a solid
`solution.
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`Id., 83:7-18; see also 44:15-45:19.
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`Dated: July 26, 2017
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`Respectfully submitted,
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` By: / E. Robert Yoches /
`E. Robert Yoches, Lead Counsel
`Reg. No. 30,120
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.6(e), the undersigned certifies that the foregoing
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`PETITIONER’S RESPONSES TO PATENT OWNER’S MOTION FOR
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`OBSERVATIONS REGARDING THE CROSS-EXAMINATION OF
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`SANJAY K. BANERJEE, PH.D. was served on July 26, 2017, via electronic mail
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`directed to counsel of record for the Patent Owner at:
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`Michael J. Fink (Reg. No. 31,827)
`mfink@gbpatent.com
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`Neil F. Greenblum (Reg. No. 28,394)
`ngreenblum@gbpatent.com
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`Arnold Turk (Reg. No. 33,094)
`aturk@gbpatent.com
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`Greenblum & Bernstein, P.L.C.
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`Reston, Virginia 20191
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`Patent Owner has agreed to electronic service.
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`Dated: July 26, 2017
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`By: /Lauren K. Young/
`Lauren K. Young
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