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`Treo are Bluetooth, a higher resolution LCD screen, a faster processor, and a
`removable battery. The stuffwe are disappointed by: still only 32MB of memory,
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`Posted at 11.37PM on Oct 24th 2004 by Jim F
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`0 STARS
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`2. Kind ofdisappointing... OK so lam not as excited as I was... actually one of the
`things i wanted was a 1.3meg pixel camera... Should i wait for the Treo 670 or 700?
`Does this one at least have a transflective screen?
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`Posted at 11:46PM on Oct 24th 2004 by Adam 0 STARS
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`3. To be honest the new specs are decent; but to keep the same crappy 0.3
`megapixel camera is alittle insulting. it would have looked beatiful on that new high-
`res screen. Right when you think there going to get it right, they screw it up.
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`Posted at 12:01AM on Oct 25th 2004 by Dakota Bless
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`4. Why and why, still have the low vga camera resolution? i hope it's a mistake in
`typing-
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`Posted at 12:43AM on Oct 25th 2004 by $ 0 STARS
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`5. l was going to buy one ofthese. I even had my mom convinced it'd be great for
`school and she was going to pay for halfof it. But now I think I'll be putting my Treo
`money into a digital camera. if it had the 1.3 megapixel camera lwould still have the
`credit card on the ready. :‘( Unfortunately that 0.3 megapixel camera is the
`dealbreaker for me.
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`Posted at 12:56AM on Oct25th 2004 by Devin Lussier
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`6. Ok, it’s a decent, small upgrade, but what a lame launch. PR firm should be fired!
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`7.0.3 megapixel camera is bad for a device in this pricepoint32 MB Memory is
`pretty tame for a device ofthis type as well While I still have this device at the top of
`my list, its no longer a lock as it was before. I still want to see what's up with the
`shipping status timeframe ofthe BenQ P50 and the TMobile MDA Ill.
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`Posted at 1 :ZSAM on Oct 25th 2004 by Greg
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`8. A bestbuy employee on httpzl/discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?
`t=60024&page;=1&pp;=20 posted inventory scans which have the treo 650
`available nov 14 for $650.
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`Posted at 1:46AM on Oct25th 2004 by Ron
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`0 STARS
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`9. For me, the camera doesn't matter. 0.3, 1.3, whatever. What worries me more is
`the comment in the PalmlnfoCenter article (sorry for linking to another site)
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`http://www.palminfocentercom/view_story.asp?ID=7237 that says the WiFi SD card
`will not work with the 650. lam fine with it not being built in, but not having the option
`for WiFi is bad. -p-
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`Posted at 3:03AM on Oct 25th 2004 by Patrick Myers
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`0 STARS
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`10. l was going to get the treo 650, but with the 1.3 camera gone, l'll either wait for
`the Treo 600 to get cheaper or for the BenQ. It's too bad...| was ready to sell my
`furniture just to get the treo 650 with 1.3 camera, too. If you're reading this, Palmone
`(and l'm sure you do), bad judgement call! Bad!
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`Posted at QQAM on Oct 25th 2004 by Sam 0 STARS
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`11. l couldn'tgive a hootabout bluetooth, having nothing to connect it to. But I
`wanted a higher resolution camera! And why prioritize video, which is admittedly a
`fine thing to have, when you can't even take decent pictures??? It is simply
`unbelievable that ofall features they would cut that one! What a disappointment. I
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`13. I had the Treo 600 and got rid of it because of the dreadful camera, wimpish
`memory and the screen resolution. Yes, we have bluetooth (although Orange will
`probably disable it on their record) but the camera and memory haven't changed.
`What's the point ofupgrading? l and many other probably won't now. Your loss Palm.
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`Posted at 8:25AM on Oct 25th 2004 by Doug Proctor
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`14. The Treo 650 has a 312 Mhz Intel PXA270 processor, which should provide for
`snappier performance, as well as improved power management and battery life.
`Graphics should be improved with the MMX capabilities of this chip, and i suspect
`the video and camera interfaces benefited greatly also. Check out the Intel website
`for details:
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`http://www.intel.com/design/embeddedpca/applicationsprocessors/302302.htm
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`Posted at 8:48AM on Oct 25th 2004 by Danborg
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`0 STARS
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`15. I heard that the SD slot is SDIO capable, so will Palm work w SanDisk et al on a
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`WiFi SDIO card? Any details on how many EDGE slots are capable? lam expecting
`only 2 down + 1 up, but hoping for 4+2 or at least4+1. A single EDGE slot
`theoretically supports 59.2Kbps using MCSQ encoding with 8PSK modulation. The
`Nokia EDGE phones are 2+1 , so AT&T; avg downlink is 80-100Kbps. Of course the
`device could support 4+1/2 and the carrier could choose to save voice bandwidth
`and only support 2+1 on the network.
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`Posted at 12:06PM on Oct 25th 2004 by Mark
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`16. Can anyone confirm or deny? | read that there will be no 'EDGE over Bluetooth',
`maybe 'EDGE over lR'? I'm picking this up the first chance I get on the first carrier that
`enables Bluetooth. All i want is IMAP and car compatibility :)
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`Posted at 2_:2_§fiM on Oct 25th 2004 by John
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`18. >...processor, which should provide for snappier performance, as well as
`improved power management and battery life. The current performance and power
`management and battery life of the 600 are just fine! Just fine, I say to you again.
`They fixed the wrong thing. The camera resolution was the real glaring problem with
`this phone, and they didn‘tfix that. A-'ing-mazing.
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`Posted at 1:20AM on Oct 26th 2004 by Lagom Johannson
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`19. When cameraphones are reaching 5 megapixels, the 650 is stuck at VGA. What
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`happened? When storage means 256MB and up, only 22MB can be mustered. What
`happened? When cell phones have been used as a modem for years, ET is
`crippled. What happened? When other smartphonesphones/pda's at least have had
`the option to use a WiFi SD card if not built-in, the 650 has neither. What happened?
`When their was a desire to make the best phone/pda combo where style met
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`function perfectly, Handspring came out with the 600. With the 650 treated as the
`2nd coming, what happened?.....l know! Palm bought Handspring. Eventually, the
`original innovators left, hence innovation dissipated. Granted with the 650, we were
`all expecting just simple improvements to keep up with the times, which there were
`several, however, they were more cosmetic and not substanstial enough to keep up
`with other smartphones. The 600 was so great because it broke all the rules and
`was ahead of the game in their relative product. When something is so successful, it
`wants more ofthe same, maybe it's because "they" felt they missed the so-called
`ipod explosion mentality with the initial short supply ofthe 600. The 600 was
`successful, because there was no other device like it. Now, there are several already
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`competing for the top spot as the treo killer. Is this supposed to be round 2? It's more
`like the dreaded Windows upgrade. Are my expectations too high? Am I dreaming
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`for something impossible to have? The funny thing is that awhile back i was asked to
`fill out an extensive survey regarding my opinion of my newly purchased 600, giving
`in detail what I liked and didn't like about my treo. A year later, I have to ask again.
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`bluetooth, crap camera, no wifi. The CPU was fine, the memory didn't matter 'cos I
`slipped in a decent SD card. So, with the new phone what has changed? Why buy it
`really. Bluetooth is nice, but I can do without to be honest, since it has a cool IMAP
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`client (snappermail) I do not need to connectwith my laptop. I really do not see why
`you would buy the 650 instead ofthe 600. Hope the Ericsson is good, but it will take
`something to beat the Treo 600. Everything worked. Won't bother checking the new
`one though.
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`Posted at 11.18AM on Oct 26th 2004 by Paul Williams
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