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`Paper 8
`Entered: November 2, 2016
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`TALARI NETWORKS, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`FATPIPE NETWORKS INDIA LIMITED,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2016-00976 Patent 6,775,235 B2
`Case IPR2016-00977 Patent 7,406,048 B21
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`Before STACEY G. WHITE, MICHELLE N. WORMMEESTER, and
`CHRISTA P. ZADO, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`WHITE, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`SCHEDULING ORDER
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`1 This Decision addresses the same issues in the above-identified cases.
`Therefore, we exercise our discretion to issue one Decision to be entered in
`each of the identified cases. The parties are not authorized to use this style
`of case caption.
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`This Order sets a schedule for trial, including due dates for the parties
`to take action upon institution of the trial. See Appendix.
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`A. INITIAL CONFERENCE
`The Appendix does not specify a date for an initial conference call.
`An initial conference call will be scheduled if either party requests it within
`21 days after entry of this Order. If an initial conference call is scheduled,
`the parties are directed to the Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, 77 Fed.
`Reg. 48,756, 48,765–66 (Aug. 14, 2012) for guidance in preparing for the
`initial conference call, and should be prepared to discuss any proposed
`changes to this Scheduling Order and any motions the parties anticipate
`filing during the trial.
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`B. MEET AND CONFER REQUIREMENT
`The parties are encouraged to engage in meaningful discussion before
`seeking authorization under 37 C.F.R. § 42.20(b) to file a motion for relief
`with the Board. At a minimum, before requesting authorization, the parties
`shall confer with each other in a good-faith effort to resolve the issue for
`which relief is to be sought. Only if the parties cannot resolve the issue on
`their own may a party request a conference call with the Board in order to
`seek authorization to move for relief.2 In any request for a conference call
`with the Board, the requesting party shall: (1) certify that it has in good-
`faith conferred (or attempted to confer) with the other parties in an effort to
`resolve the issue; (2) identify with specificity the issue for which agreement
`has not been reached; (3) state the precise relief to be sought; and
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`2 Patent Owner may file a motion to amend without prior authorization, but
`only after conferring with the Board. 37 C.F.R. § 42.121(a).
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`(4) propose specific dates and times at which both parties are available for
`the conference call.
`C. ADR STATEMENT
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`The parties are encouraged to discuss promptly alternative means for
`resolving their disputes regarding the subject matter of this proceeding. To
`advance the opportunities for early disposition, petitioner is encouraged to
`notify the Board, by the due date identified in the Appendix to this Order,
`that the parties have conferred regarding alternative dispute resolution and
`whether the parties have reached any agreements.
`D. CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION
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`A protective order does not exist in a case until one is filed in the case
`and is approved by the Board. If a motion to seal is filed by either party, the
`proposed protective order should be presented as an exhibit to the motion.
`The parties are urged to operate under the Board’s default protective order,
`should that become necessary. See Default Protective Order, Office Patent
`Trial Practice Guide, 77 Fed. Reg. at 48,769–71 (Appendix B). If the parties
`choose to propose a protective order deviating from the default protective
`order, they should submit the proposed protective order jointly. A marked-
`up comparison of the proposed and default protective orders should be
`presented as an additional exhibit to the motion to seal, so that the difference
`can be understood readily. The parties should contact the Board if they
`cannot agree on the terms of the proposed protective order.
`Information subject to a protective order will become public if
`identified in a final written decision in this proceeding. A motion to
`expunge the information will not necessarily prevail over the public interest
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`in maintaining a complete and understandable file history. See Office Patent
`Trial Practice Guide, 77 Fed. Reg. at 48,761.
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`E. CROSS-EXAMINATION
`Except as the parties might otherwise agree, for each due date—
`1.
`Cross-examination begins after any supplemental evidence is
`due. 37 C.F.R. § 42.53(d)(2).
`2.
`Cross-examination ends no later than a week before the filing
`date for any paper in which the cross-examination testimony is expected to
`be used. Id.
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`F. MOTION FOR OBSERVATION ON CROSS-EXAMINATION
`A motion for observation on cross-examination provides the parties
`with a mechanism to draw the Board’s attention to relevant cross-
`examination testimony of a reply witness because no further substantive
`paper is permitted after the reply. See Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, 77
`Fed. Reg. at 48,768. The observation must be a concise statement of the
`relevance of precisely identified testimony to a precisely identified argument
`or portion of an exhibit. Each observation should not exceed a single, short
`paragraph. The opposing party may respond to the observation. Any
`response must be equally concise and specific.
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`G. DEPOSITIONS
`The parties are reminded that the Testimony Guidelines appended to
`the Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, 77 Fed. Reg. 48,756, 48,772 (Aug.
`14, 2012) (Appendix D), apply to this proceeding. The Board may impose
`an appropriate sanction for failure to adhere to the Testimony Guidelines.
`37 C.F.R. § 42.12. For example, reasonable expenses and attorneys’ fees
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`incurred by any party may be levied on a person who impedes, delays, or
`frustrates the fair examination of a witness.
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`H. PATENT OWNER’S MOTION TO AMEND
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`Although the filing of a Motion to Amend is authorized under our
`Rules, Patent Owner must confer with us before filing any Motion to
`Amend, preferably at least ten (10) business days prior to DUE DATE 1.
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`I. DUE DATES
`The Appendix specifies due dates for the parties to take action in this
`trial. The parties may stipulate to different dates for DUE DATES 1 through
`5 (earlier or later, but no later than DUE DATE 6). A notice of any
`stipulation, specifically identifying the changed due dates, must be filed
`promptly with the Board. The parties may not stipulate to an extension of
`DUE DATES 6 and 7.
`In stipulating to different times, the parties should consider the effect
`of the stipulation on times to object to evidence (37 C.F.R. § 42.64(b)(1)), to
`supplement evidence (37 C.F.R. § 42.64(b)(2)), to conduct cross-
`examination (37 C.F.R. § 42.53(d)(2)), and to draft papers depending on the
`evidence and cross-examination testimony (see section E, above).
`The parties are reminded that the Testimony Guidelines appended to
`the Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, 77 Fed. Reg. 48,756, 48,772
`(Aug. 14, 2012) (Appendix D), apply to this proceeding. The Board may
`impose an appropriate sanction for failure to adhere to the Testimony
`Guidelines. 37 C.F.R. § 42.12. For example, reasonable expenses and
`attorneys’ fees incurred by any party may be levied on a person who
`impedes, delays, or frustrates the fair examination of a witness.
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`1. DUE DATE 1
`The patent owner may file—
`a.
`A response to the petition (37 C.F.R. § 42.120), and
`b.
`A motion to amend the patent (37 C.F.R. § 42.121).
`The patent owner must file any such response or motion to amend by
`DUE DATE 1. If the patent owner elects not to file anything, the
`patent owner must arrange a conference call with the parties and the
`Board. The patent owner is cautioned that any arguments for
`patentability not raised in the response will be deemed waived.
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`2. DUE DATE 2
`The petitioner must file any reply to the patent owner’s
`response and opposition to the motion to amend by DUE DATE 2.
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`3. DUE DATE 3
`The patent owner must file any reply to the petitioner’s
`opposition to patent owner’s motion to amend by DUE DATE 3.
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`4. DUE DATE 4
`a.
`Each party must file any motion for an observation on the
`cross-examination testimony of a reply witness (see section F, above)
`by DUE DATE 4.
`b.
`Each party must file any motion to exclude evidence (37
`C.F.R § 42.64(c)) and any request for oral argument (37 C.F.R.
`§ 42.70(a)) by DUE DATE 4. Additionally, in its request for oral
`argument, each party should indicate its preferred location (if
`any) for the oral hearing: the main headquarters in Alexandria,
`Virginia, Silicon Valley Regional Office, or the Texas Regional
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`Office. Please note that the parties’ preferences will be
`considered, however, the location of the oral hearing will be
`decided by the Board based on hearing room resources.
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`5. DUE DATE 5
`a.
`Each party must file any response to an observation on
`cross-examination testimony by DUE DATE 5.
`b.
`Each party must file any opposition to a motion to
`exclude evidence by DUE DATE 5.
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`6. DUE DATE 6
`Each party must file any reply for a motion to exclude evidence
`by DUE DATE 6.
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`7. DUE DATE 7
`The oral argument (if requested by either party) is set for DUE
`DATE 7.
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`DUE DATE APPENDIX
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`INITIAL CONFERENCE CALL ............................................. Upon Request
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`ADR STATEMENT DUE ................................................... December 6, 2016
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`DUE DATE 1 ........................................................................ January 13, 2017
`Patent owner’s response to the petition
`Patent owner’s motion to amend the patent
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`DUE DATE 2 .......................................................................... March 27, 2017
`Petitioner’s reply to patent owner’s response to petition
`Petitioner’s opposition to motion to amend
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`DUE DATE 3 ............................................................................ April 27, 2017
`Patent owner’s reply to petitioner’s opposition to motion to amend
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`DUE DATE 4 ............................................................................. May 18, 2017
`Motion for observation regarding cross-examination of reply witness
`Motion to exclude evidence
`Request for oral argument
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`DUE DATE 5 ............................................................................... June 1, 2017
`Response to observation
`Opposition to motion to exclude
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`DUE DATE 6 ............................................................................... June 8, 2017
`Reply to opposition to motion to exclude
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`DUE DATE 7 ............................................................................. June 27, 2017
`Oral argument (if requested)
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`PETITIONER:
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`Andy Chan
`Charles Koch
`PEPPER HAMILTON LLP
`chana@pepperlaw.com
`kochc@pepperlaw.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`Bing Ai
`PERKINS COIE LLP
`Ai-ptab@perkinscoie.com
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