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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`MICROSOFT CORPORATION,
`Petitioner
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`v.
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`BRADIUM TECHNOLOGIES LLC,
`Patent Owner
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`CASE IPR2016-00449
`Patent 8,924,506 B2
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`PATENT OWNER BRADIUM TECHNOLOGIES LLC’S
`MOTION FOR OBSERVATIONS ON CROSS-EXAMINATION
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`PATENT OWNER’S MOTION FOR OBSERVATIONS ON CROSS-
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`Pursuant to the Board’s Scheduling Order dated July 27, 2016 (Paper 10)
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`and the Stipulation to Modify Due Dates 4 (Paper 36), Patent Owner Bradium
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`Technologies LLC (“Bradium”) respectfully submits this Motion for Observations
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`on Cross-Examination of Dr. William Michalson, who was deposed on February
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`21, 2017.
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`1.
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`In Exhibit 2078, on page 6, line 12 to page 8, line 1, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that the copyright date of Exhibit 1030 is the year 2000. This testimony is
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`relevant to Dr. Michalson’s assertion in Exhibit 1016 at paragraph 93 (page 62)
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`that Exhibit 1030 is “a 1999 Microsoft Technical Report describing its
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`‘TerraServer’ system for viewing geographic images online [that] teaches that
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`UTM coordinates could simply be converted to a simple X, Y tile address,” and to
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`Petitioner’s Reply (Paper 34) argument at pages 13–14 based on UTM in reliance
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`on Dr. Michalson’s assertion. This testimony is relevant because it shows Dr.
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`Michalson and Petitioner’s argument is based on a non-prior-art reference.
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`In Exhibit 2078, on page 6, line 12 to page 8, line 1, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that the Exhibit 1030 states that it is an article that appeared in the
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`proceedings of ACM SIGMOD in May 2000. This testimony is relevant to Dr.
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`Michalson’s assertion in Exhibit 1016 at paragraph 93 (page 62) that Exhibit 1030
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`is “a 1999 Microsoft Technical Report describing its ‘TerraServer’ system for
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`viewing geographic images online [that] teaches that UTM coordinates could
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`simply be converted to a simple X, Y tile address,” and to Petitioner’s Reply
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`(Paper 34) argument at pages 13–14 based on UTM in reliance on Dr. Michalson’s
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`assertion. This testimony is relevant because it shows Dr. Michalson and
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`Petitioner’s argument is based on a non-prior-art reference.
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`3.
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`In Exhibit 2078, on page 9, line 13 to page 10, line 24, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that he did not address reason number 4 offered by the authors of Exhibit
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`1030 in his direct testimony, which is that the map tile client-server solution
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`described in Exhibit 1030 “had not been attempted before” and that “many people
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`felt it was impossible without using an object-oriented or object-relational system.”
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`This testimony is relevant to Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at page 38. This
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`testimony is relevant because it shows that the portion of Exhibit 1030 not
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`addressed by Dr. Michalson is consistent with Patent Owner’s argument that
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`VRML is essentially a set of objects that that are linked to one another.
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`4.
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`In Exhibit 2078, on page 11, line 20 to page 13, line 2, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that Exhibit 1030 provides specifically that its user interface is designed to
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`function adequately over low-speed (28.8 kbps) connections, while Reddy does not
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`mention a particular speed of the connection to the internet for the PC or laptop
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`that is disclosed by Reddy at Paragraph 48. This testimony is relevant to Patent
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`Owner’s response (Paper 20) at Pages 11–12. This testimony is relevant because it
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`supports Patent Owner’s argument that the disclosure in Reddy of a “PC connected
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`to the internet” does not disclose a particular communications channel for the PC.
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`5.
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`In Exhibit 2078, on page 18, line 11 to page 20, line 16, Dr.
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`Michalson testifies that his assertion regarding Exhibit 2066 at Paragraph 39, page
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`23 at lines 16-18 of his Reply Declaration (Ex. 1016) that “page 1 of Ex. 2066
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`explains that SRI’s digital earth proposal is to extend TerraVision functionality to
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`‘commercial, off-the-shelf’ software (id. at 1),” omitted the portion of the sentence
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`he quotes that states “although perhaps with less functionality.” This testimony is
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`relevant to Patent Owner’s response (Paper 20) at Page 25. This testimony is
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`relevant because it shows that Dr. Michalson omitted information that supports
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`Patent Owner’s argument that a standard VRML browser could not use the
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`TerraVision II specific optimizations described in Reddy.
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`6.
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`In Exhibit 2078, on page 20, line 18 to page 23, line 3, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that the portion of Exhibit 2066 that he refers to at Paragraph 39, lines 16-
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`20 of his Reply Declaration (Ex. 1016) refers to VRML support that is directly
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`integrated into standard browser software. This testimony is relevant to Patent
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`Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at Pages 22, 25. This testimony is relevant because
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`it supports Patent Owner’s argument that the laptop disclosed by Reddy views
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`VRML data with a standard VRML browser and not with TerraVision II.
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`7.
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`In Exhibit 2078, on page 25, line 13 to page 26, line 23, Dr.
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`Michalson testifies that Exhibit 2066, with respect to the portion stating “[b]y
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`employing VRML as the file format . . . we allow for the possibility of users
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`interacting with it using standard off-the-shelf VRML browser software,” the
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`authors were saying that “the data structures that were adopted for Digital Earth
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`and for the system that they’re building, that SRI is calling Digital Earth, it’s –
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`were being designed such that they would be compatible with browsers that are
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`capable of interpreting VRML.” This testimony is relevant to Patent Owner’s
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`Response (Paper 20) at Pages 22, 25. This testimony is relevant because it
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`supports Patent Owner’s argument that the laptop disclosed by Reddy views
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`VRML data with a standard VRML browser and not with TerraVision II.
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`8.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 27, line 2 to 22, Dr. Michalson testifies that
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`Exhibit 2066 refers to the fact that the Digital Earth data structures can be directly
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`accessed via an internet browser, for example, in the specific case of Windows 98,
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`“you would be able to just point a – point the browser with the preinstalled VRML
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`plug-in to a VRML serving website and it would interpret the VRML.” This
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`testimony is relevant to Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at Pages 22, 25. This
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`testimony is relevant because it supports Patent Owner’s argument that the laptop
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`disclosed by Reddy views VRML data with a standard VRML browser and not
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`with TerraVision II.
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`9.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 29, line 4 to page 31, line 2, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that his Reply Declaration (Exhibit 1016) at Page 24, line 1 to line 5, in
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`which he states that Exhibit 2066 “clearly states that it is ‘feasible’ that the features
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`provided by TerraVision ‘could be implemented for a standard VRML browser
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`through the use of various Java scripts embedded in the scene, or running
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`externally to the browser,’” omits the text “some of the following” from the cited
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`portion of Exhibit 2066, which in fact reads: “it is feasible that some of the
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`following could be implemented for a standard VRML browser through the use of
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`various Java scripts embedded in the scene, or running externally to the browser.”
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`This testimony is relevant to Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at Page 25. This
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`testimony is relevant because it shows that Dr. Michalson omitted the material that
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`supports Patent Owner’s argument that a standard VRML browser would not have
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`the functionality of TerraVision II on which Petitioner relies.
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`10.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 29, line 4 to page 31, line 2, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that, while he cited and quoted from the second full paragraph of Page 4 of
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`Exhibit 2066 in his Reply Declaration (Exhibit 1016) at Page 24, line 1 to line 5,
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`he did not quote the text a couple of lines earlier that states: “However, it is likely
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`that certain capabilities will not be available in a standard VRML browser, or that
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`they will be available at a lower performance level.” (Exhibit 2066, Page 4,
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`Paragraph 2). This testimony is relevant to Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at
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`Page 25. This testimony is relevant because it shows that Dr. Michalson did not
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`address the material that supports Patent Owner’s argument that a standard VRML
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`browser would not have the functionality of TerraVision II on which Petitioner
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`relies.
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`11.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 21, line 15 to page 33, line 17, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that the portion of Exhibit 2066 that he cites at Paragraph 54 at pages 35-
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`36 of his Reply Declaration that refers to Windows NT also states that “[i]n the
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`past, TerraVision has been deployed largely on SGI graphics workstations such as
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`O2 and Octane.” (Exhibit 2066, Page 2). This testimony is relevant to Patent
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`Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at Pages 20, 25. This testimony is relevant because
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`it shows that Dr. Michalson did not address the material that supports Patent
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`Owner’s argument that the “PC connected to the internet” of Reddy is not a limited
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`bandwidth communications device.
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`12.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 35, line 13 to line 23, Dr. Michalson testifies
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`that one of the goals of SRI (authors of Exhibit 2066) is to “manage vast volumes
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`of data distributed over advanced NGI networks.” This testimony is relevant to
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`Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at Page 26. This testimony is relevant
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`because it supports Patent Owner’s argument that Reddy does not teach or suggest
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`that TerraVision II is viable on a laptop.
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`13.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 42, line 6 to page 43, line 9, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies:
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`Q. I have a very simple question, whether you would agree with me
`that there's a distinction between what software is designed to run on
`versus what the software can possibly operate on.
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`MR. DAY: Object to form.
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`A. Not necessarily. I may -- I may design a piece of software on a
`particular platform with the expectation that it will run on other
`platforms. For example, we just finished talking about this Digital
`Earth SRI. That was something that they ran on some particular
`platforms but was clearly designed in such a way that many other
`platforms would have access.
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`Q. And we looked earlier at the page referring to some specific
`platforms such as –
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`MR. DAY: Objection.
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`Q. -- Windows NT and SGI graphics work stations, right?
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`MR. DAY: Object to form.
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`A. Those were some specific examples, but for any platforms running
`at least Netscape or Internet Explorer or any other VRML compatible
`browser.
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`This testimony is relevant to Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at Pages 22, 25.
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`This testimony is relevant because it shows the distinction between TerraVision II
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`and a standard VRML browser such as “Netscape or Internet Explorer” that can
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`“access” data without running the software designed by SRI.
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`14.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 44, line 24 to page 45, line 14, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that he has not examined the pleadings or complaint in the Bradium v.
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`Microsoft litigation. This testimony is relevant to Petitioner’s Reply (Paper 34) at
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`Page 3 and Exhibit 1016 (Michalson Reply Declaration) at Paragraph 30. This
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`testimony is relevant to show the lack of basis for Petitioner’s claim, based on Dr.
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`Michalson’s claim, that Bradium’s position in that litigation contradicts its position
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`in this IPR.
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`15.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 45, line 16 to page 46, line 7, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that he is not aware of discovery or depositions in the Bradium v.
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`Microsoft litigation. This testimony is relevant to Petitioner’s Reply (Paper 34) at
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`Page 3 and Exhibit 1016 (Michalson Reply Declaration) at Paragraph 30. This
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`testimony to show the lack of basis for Petitioner’s claim, based on Dr.
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`Michalson’s claim, that Bradium’s position in that litigation contradicts its position
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`in this IPR.
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`16.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 46, line 9 to line 20, Dr. Michalson testifies that
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`he does not know whether the Court has construed claims in the Bradium v.
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`Microsoft litigation. This testimony is relevant to Petitioner’s Reply (Paper 34) at
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`Page 3 and Exhibit 1016 (Michalson Reply Declaration) at Paragraph 30. This
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`testimony is relevant to show the lack of basis for Petitioner’s claim, based on Dr.
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`Michalson’s claim, that Bradium’s position in that litigation contradicts its position
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`17.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 46, line 22 to page 48, line 1, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that he is not familiar with the relevant local rules of the Court with
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`respect to contentions in the Bradium v. Microsoft litigation. This testimony is
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`relevant to Petitioner’s Reply (Paper 34) at Page 3 and Exhibit 1016 (Michalson
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`Reply Declaration) at Paragraph 30. This testimony is relevant to show the lack of
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`basis for Petitioner’s claim, based on Dr. Michalson’s claim, that Bradium’s
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`position in that litigation contradicts its position in this IPR.
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`18.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 48, line 9 to page 49, line 12, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that he has not seen before Bradium’s First Amended Complaint (Ex.
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`2074) in the Bradium v. Microsoft litigation. This testimony is relevant to
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`Petitioner’s Reply (Paper 34) at Page 3 and Exhibit 1016 (Michalson Reply
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`Declaration) at Paragraph 30. This testimony is relevant to show the lack of basis
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`for Petitioner’s claim, based on Dr. Michalson’s claim, that Bradium’s position in
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`that litigation contradicts its position in this IPR.
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`19.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 50, line 8 to line 23, Dr. Michalson testifies that
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`he has not considered and is not prepared to remark on the statement in Bradium’s
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`First Amended Complaint (Ex. 2074) at Paragraph 73 (page 19) accusing
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`“Microsoft’s Bing Maps Preview application for Microsoft Windows on a
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`computer device, such as a smartphone, in combination with Microsoft servers.”
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`This testimony is relevant to Petitioner’s Reply (Paper 34) at Page 3 and Exhibit
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`1016 (Michalson Reply Declaration) at Paragraph 30. This testimony is relevant to
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`show the lack of basis for Petitioner’s claim, based on Dr. Michalson’s claim, that
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`Bradium’s position in that litigation contradicts its position in this IPR.
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`20.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 53, line 21 to page 55, line 8, Dr. Michalson’s
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`testimony includes the statement at page 54, lines 8 to 16:
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`interpretation of the claim language, all channels are fundamentally
`limited. They can be -- and those limitations form the expectations of
`throughput on the channel. What that throughput ends up being is
`going to be a result of the technology of the channel and the load that's
`on that channel.
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`This testimony is relevant to Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at pages 9–10
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`and Petitioner’s Reply (Paper 34) at pages 1–2. This testimony is relevant to show
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`that Patent Owner’s and Petitioner’s claim construction of the term “limited
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`bandwidth communications channel” is overly broad.
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`21.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 58, line 4 to line 19, Dr. Michalson’s testimony
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`includes the statement:
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`Q. Is that an example of a limited bandwidth communications
`channel, under your interpretation of plain and ordinary meaning as
`the term is used in the claims of the '343 and the '506 patents?
`A. Well --
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`A. -- relative to the broadest reasonable interpretation standard, all
`communications channels are limited. In the case of a 56 kilobit per
`second dial-up modem, that channel would be limited to 56 kilobit --
`kilobits per second. At least -- let me clarify. That user connection
`would be limited to 56 kilobits per second.
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`This testimony is relevant to Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at pages 9–10
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`and Petitioner’s Reply (Paper 34) at pages 1–2. This testimony is relevant to show
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`that Patent Owner’s and Petitioner’s claim construction of the term “limited
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`bandwidth communications channel” is overly broad.
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`22.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 59, line 17 to page 61, line 3 and page 61, line
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`24 to page 64, line 15, Dr. Michalson testifies that Exhibit 2076 is Dr. Michalson’s
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`declaration in Under Armour v. Adidas, IPR2015-00698, and Exhibit 2075 is the
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`deposition of Dr. Michalson in this IPR. This testimony is relevant to Patent
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`Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at pages 57–60. This testimony is relevant to
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`provide a foundation for the testimony of Paragraphs 23 to 26, below
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`23.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 64, line 20 to 66, line 8, Dr. Michalson testifies
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`that he provided an opinion regarding the commercial success of a mobile
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`application MapMyFitness (“MMF”), stating that: “[i]n my opinion, the
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`commercial success of the MMD suite of products is plainly demonstrated by the
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`number of MMF users and Under Armour’s purchase price of MMF.” This
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`testimony is relevant to Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at pages 57–60. This
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`testimony is relevant because it shows that Dr. Michalson previously opined that
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`commercial success supported non-obviousness using the same type of information
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`that Patent Owner relies on in this IPR.
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`24.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 67, line 6 to page 68, line 7, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that he offered the following deposition testimony in Under Armour v.
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`Adidas, IPR2015-00698 at Exhibit 2075, page 8, line 8 to page 9, line 2:
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`Question: "I understand that you're not talking about that here. Well,
`so you mentioned two things. Again, it's the number of MMF users
`and Under Armour's purchase of MMF would be the two factors that
`you considered. Would there be any other factors that you would want
`information" -- I'm sorry -- "Would there be any other information
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`MapMyFitness suite of products are commercially successful?"
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`Answer: Line 21, "The Witness: I wasn't asked to consider any other
`factors, and I didn't consider any other factors. You know, if there
`were more factors that were brought to my attention or that I obtained,
`I would consider them, but I did not do that analysis," ending at Page
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`This testimony is relevant to Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at pages 57–60.
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`This testimony is relevant because it shows that Dr. Michalson previously opined
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`that commercial success supported non-obviousness using the same type of
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`25.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 69, line 5 to line 24, Dr. Michalson testifies that
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`he offered the following deposition testimony in Under Armour v. Adidas,
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`IPR2015-00698 at Exhibit 2075 beginning at page 6 line 13:
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`Question: "Sure. So you mentioned two factors here in Paragraph 76.
`You state the commercial success is demonstrated, A, by the number
`of MMF users; and B, Under Armour's purchase of MapMyFitness.
`And my question is, hypothetically, would the profitability of
`MapMyFitness as a company be a relevant factor to your opinion to
`determining whether its products were a commercial success?"
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`Answer: Line 23, page 6, "The Witness: In Paragraph 76, I'm not
`referring to the profitability of MapMyFitness. I'm referring to the
`number of users they accumulated and the fact that Under Armour
`purchased the company."
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`This testimony is relevant to Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at pages 55–57.
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`This testimony is relevant because it shows that Dr. Michalson previously opined
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`that commercial success supported non-obviousness using the same type of
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`information that Patent Owner relies on in this IPR.
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`26.
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`In Exhibit 2078, at page 93, line 10 to page 95 line 8, Dr. Michalson
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`testifies that he offered the opinion that “Running Shoes Guru” listing MMF as
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`“one of the ten best running apps for Android in 2015” was evidence for his
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`opinion that industry praise for MMF supported a conclusion of non-obviousness
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`in Under Armour v. Adidas, IPR2015-00698. This testimony is relevant to Patent
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`Owner’s Response (Paper 20) at pages 59–60 and the Levanon Declaration (Ex.
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`2004) at Paragraph 90. This testimony is relevant because it shows that Dr.
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`Michalson previously opined that commercial success supported non-obviousness
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`using the same type of information that Patent Owner relies on in this IPR.
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`27.
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`In Exhibit 2078, page 71, lines 4 to 22 and page 73, line 23 to page
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`74, line 16, Dr. Michalson testifies that the following deposition testimony as
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`reflected in Exhibit 2077, a deposition transcript of November 9, 2012 in the
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`matter Visteon Global Technologies v. Garmin International, at page 18, lines 6 to
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`Q. Okay. What is your current salary?
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`A. My current salary comes from both my consulting company and
`the university. Last year it was, I think, just a little bit shy of
`$600,000.
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`Q. How much does the university pay you?
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`It varies depending on what sponsored research I have, but
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`currently it’s around $125,000.
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`Q. And the rest comes from your consulting?
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`Correct.
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`Q. And of your consulting, how much of that portion is related to
`your law – law-related consulting?
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`I would say probably about 70 or 80 is law-related consulting.
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`This testimony is relevant to Exhibit 1019 at page 11, line 6 to page 12, line 5.
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`In Exhibit 2078, at page 72, line 10 to page 73, line 11, Dr. Michalson
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`What's your current salary?
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`A. Well, I think this past year --
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`MR. DAY: Object to form?
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`A. -- it was around 140,000 from WPI.
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`BY MR. COULSON:
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`Q. And you also obtained income from consulting?
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`A. Yes.
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`Q. And you also obtained income from legal consulting?
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`A. Yes.
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`Q. And what's your consulting income currently, roughly?
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`A. I haven't calculated it for this year yet, but last year it was, I think,
`approximately 500,000.
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`Q. And how much of that is legal consulting?
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`A. Probably the majority of it. I don't know specifically. Probably 80
`or 90 percent. The 500,000 would include, actually, my wife's legal
`practice and my legal consulting. So, just legal consulting is probably
`350-ish.
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`This testimony is relevant to Exhibit 1019 at page 11, line 6 to page 12, line 5.
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`This testimony is relevant to show the financial stake of the witness in law-related
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`/Chris J. Coulson/
`Chris J. Coulson (Reg. No. 61,771)
`Lead Counsel for Patent Owner
`ANDREWS KURTH KENYON LLP
`One Broadway
`New York, NY 10004-1007
`Tel.: (212) 425-7200
`Fax: (212) 425-5288
`ccoulson@andrewskurthkenyon.com
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`Michael Zachary (admitted pro hac vice)
`Clifford Ulrich (Reg. No. 42,194)
`Attorneys for Bradium Technologies LLC
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.6(e), the undersigned certifies that on March 22,
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`2017, the foregoing Patent Owner Bradium Technologies LLC’s Motion for
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`Observations on Cross-Examination were served via electronic mail upon the
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`following counsel of record for the Petitioner:
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`Chun Ng (Reg. No. 36,878)
`Matthew Bernstein (pro hac vice)
`Patrick McKeever (Reg. No. 66,019)
`Vinay Sathe (Reg. No. 55,595)
`Evan S. Day (pro hac vice)
`PerkinsServiceBradiumIPR@perkinscoie.com
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`Chris J. Coulson (Reg. No. 61,771)
`ANDREWS KURTH KENYON LLP
`One Broadway
`New York, NY 10004-1007
`Tel.: (212) 425-7200
`Fax: (212) 425-5288
`ccoulson@andrewskurthkenyon.com
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