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Michael Chakansky
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`Subject:
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`FW: IPR2016-00281 and IPR2016-00282
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`From: Vignone, Maria [mailto:Maria.Vignone@USPTO.GOV] On Behalf Of Trials 
`Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 2:32 PM 
`To: Michael Chakansky; Trials 
`Cc: 'Holland, Elizabeth J.'; eyost@goodwinprocter.com; jstull@goodwinprocter.com; 
`eblais@goodwinprocter.com; rfrederickson@goodwinprocter.com; 'Cerwinski, Robert V.'; Daniel Scola; 
`Michael Chakansky; 514IPR 
`Subject: RE: IPR2016‐00281 and IPR2016‐00282 

`Counsel:  We do not have a panel for these cases yet.  Please check back in another week or so. 

`Thank you, 

`Maria Vignone 
`Paralegal Operations Manager 
`Patent Trial and Appeal Board 
`571‐272‐4645 
`
`   
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`   
`
`From: Michael Chakansky [mailto:mchakansky@optonline.net]<mailto:[mailto:mchakansky@optonline.net]> 
`Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 1:15 PM 
`To: Trials 
`Cc: 'Holland, Elizabeth J.'; eyost@goodwinprocter.com<mailto:eyost@goodwinprocter.com>; 
`jstull@goodwinprocter.com<mailto:jstull@goodwinprocter.com>; 
`eblais@goodwinprocter.com<mailto:eblais@goodwinprocter.com>; 
`rfrederickson@goodwinprocter.com<mailto:rfrederickson@goodwinprocter.com>; 'Cerwinski, Robert V.'; 
`'Daniel Scola'; 'Michael Chakansky'; 514ipr@hbiplaw.com<mailto:514ipr@hbiplaw.com> 
`Subject: IPR2016‐00281 and IPR2016‐00282 

`RE:          IPR2016‐00281 (US Patent No. 8,603,514 ('514 Patent)) and IPR2016‐00282 (US Patent No. 8,017,150 
`('150Patent)) 
`                Request for Conference to Discuss Correcting Filing Dates for Both Petitions 

`Dear Trial Board: 
`
`               We represent Patent Owner, MonoSol Rx LLC and we request a conference with the Board to discuss, 
`in connection with the above‐referenced IPRs, Petitioner's incomplete service and incorrect statement in 
`certificate of service as to the date of deposit with FedEx of the incomplete service.  Patent Owner seeks 
`guidance in how to have the filing dates corrected.   Petitioner is the same for the foregoing IPRs and we have 
`met and conferred with Counsel for Petitioner on the issues below. 

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`MONOSOL RX EXHIBIT 2002 page 0001
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`                 As the incomplete service involved both the above‐referenced IPRs as well as a third IPR some detail 
`is necessary.  As counsel of record for Patent Owner we received, on December 7, 2015, three banker's size 
`boxes of materials regarding petitions for IPRs of the '514 Patent (281 IPR) and US Patent No. 8,475,832 ('832 
`Patent) (IPR2016‐00280)(280 IPR).  The 280 IPR is being handled by Counsel for the current Patent Owner of 
`the '832 Patent.  We only found out serendipitously that the documents also related to an IPR for the '150 
`Patent.  As the documents provided in the three boxes only contained petitions for the 280 and 281 IPRs, they 
`did not disclose the existence of the 282 IPR.  However, when we went online to the PTAB website, and 
`searched, the results, in addition to the '280 and 281 IPRs, also disclosed a 282 IPR. 
`
`  
`
`               In sum, the three boxes contained incomplete sets of documents, for which we later found out were 
`for these three separate IPRs.  Moreover, these documents were all intermixed and not bates‐stamped in 
`accordance with the PTAB rules.  Additionally, the filings with the PTAB were also incomplete.  In particular, 
`we briefly make note of the following material deficiencies in the completeness of service and in the 
`certificate of service, separately for the 281 and 282 IPRs: 

`IPR2016‐00282 (8,017,150): 

`In the bankers' boxes served on Patent Owner's counsel of record: 
`
`               (1) There was no copy of the IPR Petition for the 8,017,150 patent. 
`
`               (2) There was no copy of Exhibit 3 (Expert Declaration of Nandita Das). 
`
`  
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`               (3) The Certificate of Service stated that it was served on December 3, 2015 by FedEx, even though 
`the bankers' boxes were not tendered to FedEx until 3:02 am the next day, December 4, 2015. 

`IPR2016‐00281 (8,603,514): 

`In the bankers' boxes served on Patent Owner's counsel of record: 
`
`  
`
`               (1) There was no copy of Exhibit 3 (Expert Declaration of Jayanth Panyam); 
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`  
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`               (2) The Certificate of Service stated that it was served on December 3, 2015 by FedEx, even though 
`the bankers' boxes were not tendered to FedEx until 3:02 am the next day, December 4, 2015. 
`
`  
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`               (3) Several documents were not stamped with Exhibit bates stamp markings. 
`
`  
`
`               Petitioner subsequently served an additional fourth banker's box of documents, which we received 
`on December 18, 2015, presumably made as part of Petitioner's responses to Papers No. 3 in the IPRs.  The 
`fourth banker's box did not provide the documents or address any of the itemized infirmities (1), (2) and (3) 
`for the 281 IPR and 280 IPR as noted above.  In particular, the fourth banker's box did not contain the '150 
`Petition or the '150 and '514 expert declarations. 
`
`  
`
`           Finally, after requesting a meet and confer with Counsel for Petitioner's, which request recited the 
`above, we received, via electronic service on December 24, 2015, the missing and corrected documents. 
`
`  
`
`           As service of the petition and supporting evidence is a prerequisite to being afforded a filing date for an 
`IPR, the Patent Owner requests guidance on correcting the filing date of the Petitions to December 24, 2015, 
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`MONOSOL RX EXHIBIT 2002 page 0002
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`

`
`the date service of the missing petition and the two missing declarations and the other noted infirmities was 
`finally completed.  The filing dates currently afforded both the Petitions is December 4 (see Paper 3 in each 
`file).  However, it is our understanding that Petitioner will be requesting that the filing dates for both be 
`changed to December 3, 2015. 
`
`  
`
`           The filing dates are important as they are dispositive, at this stage of the process, as Patent Owners' 
`complaint alleging infringement of the above three patents was served on Petitioner on December 3, 2014, 
`thus bringing into play the 1 year bar of 35 U.S.C. 315(b).  Moreover, we would like to discuss the incorrect 
`statement in the certificates of service. 
`
`           Counsel for Patent Owner and Petitioner met and conferred on Thursday, January 7, 2016. 
`
`  
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`  
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`           If it is convenient for the Board, Counsel for Patent Owner and Petitioner are available for a conference 
`next Thursday, January 14, 2016, between 2 pm and 5 pm, or next Friday, January 15, 2016 between 10 am 
`and 12 noon.  If these dates are not convenient, Patent Owner will try and be available whenever it is 
`convenient for the Board. 
`
`  
`
`           With the Board's permission, Petitioner intends to have a court reporter record the conference, and 
`further requests permission to file a copy of the transcript as part of the record in each of these actions. 
`
`  
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`           Thank you for your consideration of this matter. 
`
`           Sincerely, 
`
`  
`
`  
`
`           Michael Chakansky. 
`
`    
`
`Michael I. Chakansky, Esq. 
`Hoffmann & Baron, LLP 
`6 Campus Drive 
`Parsippany, NJ 07054‐4406 
`TEL:    973.331.1700 
`FAX:   973.331.1717 
`mchakansky@hbiplaw.com<mailto:mchakansky@hbiplaw.com> 
`www.hbiplaw.com<http://www.hbiplaw.com/> 

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`this transmittal or its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. 
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