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`PAUL ANDRE (State Bar No. 196585)
`pandre@kramerlevin.com
`LISA KOBIALKA (State Bar No. 191404)
`lkobialka@kramerlevin.com
`JAMES HANNAH (State Bar No. 237978)
`jhannah@kramerlevin.com
`KRAMER LEVIN NAFTALIS & FRANKEL LLP
`990 Marsh Road
`Menlo Park, CA 94025
`Telephone: (650) 752-1700
`Facsimile: (650) 752-1800
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`Attorneys for Plaintiff
`FINJAN, INC.
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`IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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`FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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`SAN FRANCISCO DIVISION
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`FINJAN, INC., a Delaware Corporation,
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`Plaintiff,
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`PALO ALTO NETWORKS, INC.,
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`Defendant.
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`Case No.: 14-cv-04908-EMC
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`HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL –
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`PLAINTIFF FINJAN, INC.’S
`OBJECTIONS AND RESPONSES TO
`DEFENDANT PALO ALTO NETWORKS,
`INC.’S FIRST SET OF
`INTERROGATORIES (NOS. 1-13)
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`Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 26 and 33, Plaintiff Finjan, Inc. (“Finjan”) responds to Defendant
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`Palo Alto Networks, Inc. (“PAN” or “Defendant”)’s First Set of Interrogatories (“Interrogatories”).
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`Finjan makes these objections and responses herein (collectively “Responses”) based solely on its
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`current knowledge, understanding, and belief as to the facts and information reasonably available to it
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`as of the date of the Responses.
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`INTERROGATORY NO. 5:
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`For each Asserted Patent, state in detail all facts and information (including without limitation
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`the identity of documents and persons knowledgeable) concerning any secondary considerations (also
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`known as objective indicia) relating to the alleged nonobviousness of the claimed subject matter,
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`including without limitation: any long-felt but unfulfilled need, unexpected results, failure of others,
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`commercial success, acquiescence, license granted to the Asserted Patents, professional approval, lack
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`of contemporaneous invention, prior skepticism, copying or laudatory statements by others; the nexus
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`between each alleged indicia of nonobviousness and each Asserted Claim to which that indicia
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`allegedly applies; and the three (3) Finjan employees Finjan believes are most knowledgeable about
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`RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORY NO. 5:
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`Finjan objects to this Interrogatory as vague and ambiguous, including the term “most
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`knowledgeable.” Finjan objects to this Interrogatory to the extent it is compound because it is
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`comprised of multiple, discrete subparts. Finjan objects to this Interrogatory to the extent it calls for a
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`legal conclusion. Finjan objects to this Interrogatory to the extent that it seeks confidential, business,
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`financial, proprietary or sensitive information or trade secrets of third parties, which is subject to pre-
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`existing protective order(s) and/or confidentiality agreements; Finjan will not produce such
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`information absent an express order to the contrary from a court of competent jurisdiction, or an
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`authorization from the third party having the interest in the information’s confidentiality. Finjan
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`objects to this Interrogatory to the extent that it seeks information beyond Finjan’s actual knowledge,
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`custody, or control. Finjan objects to this Interrogatory to the extent it seeks information protected by
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`the attorney-client privilege, the work product doctrine, or any other applicable law, privilege, doctrine
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`or immunity. Finjan objects to this Interrogatory to the extent it seeks information within Defendants’
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`possession, custody or control, or to the extent it seeks information in the public domain; Defendant
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`can ascertain such information from its own records or from other sources at least as readily as Finjan.
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`Finjan objects to this Interrogatory as vague and ambiguous. Finjan objects to this Interrogatory as
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`premature to the extent it calls for subsequent discovery in this action and/or expert testimony that will
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`be provided according to deadlines set by the Court.
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`Subject to and without waiving the foregoing general and specific objections, Finjan responds
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`At the very least, the Patents-in-Suit are novel and non-obvious due to the industry praise, long-
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`felt need, licensing, copying by competitors, and commercial success of the technology covered by
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`these patents. For example:
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`Industry Praise:
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`Finjan’s Vital Security Appliance Series has been praised by the International Data
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`Corporation, who hailed Finjan as the inventor of proactive content behavior inspection. Finjan was
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`the finalist in two of SC Magazine’s 2007 Awards, Best Security Company and Best Security Solution
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`for Government – Finjan Vital Security Web Appliance. Finjan was the winner of the Winner of
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`Excellence in Anti-Malware and Winner of Excellence in Gateways in the Info Security Products
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`Guide—Product Excellence Awards 2007. SC Magazine rated the Finjan Vital Security NG-6100 five
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`out of five stars. PC Pro stated that the Finjan Vital Security NG-1100 appliance “is one of the best
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`solutions available.” Finjan Vial Security Web Appliance was the winner of eWEEK’s Seventh
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`Annual Excellence Award in the Network Datastream Protection category. Named in the top ten Most
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`Interesting Products exhibited at RSA 2009 by eWEEK. CRN.com review praised Finjan’s Vital
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`Security Web appliance because “Finjan’s Vital Security can make a difference in organizations
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`concerned about security and compliance.” SC Magazine gave the Finjan Vital Security NG-8000 five
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`out of five starts. SC Magazine commented that the Finjan Vital Security Web Appliance Series was
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`“[j]ust about the most comprehensive product of its kind [they have] tested.” An article by
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`InformationWeek described the Finjan Vital Security 6100 appliance as taking “signature based
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`protection to the next level by actually executing the code of the site you’re visiting in a sandbox in
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`Licensing:
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`In July 2005, Microsoft Corporation obtained a license to Finjan’s computer security patents.
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`Microsoft obtained a license to Finjan’s technology in order to advance their security innovation just
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`after entering the computer security market. At the time Microsoft obtained a license to Finjan’s
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`patents Microsoft had nearly no market share in the computer security space and was heading to
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`compete against large well-established companies. Microsoft saw the value of licensing Finjan’s
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`technology to help give them a boost and now Microsoft is one of the more dominant players with
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`Microsoft Security Essentials product. A Microsoft spokesperson stated that “Finjan has done some
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`In November 2009, Finjan licensed its patents to M86 Security. In March 2012, Finjan
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`licensed its patents to Trustwave Holdings, Inc. In July 2012, Finjan licensed its patents to Webroot
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`Inc. In November 2012, McAfee, Inc./Intel Corporation (“Intel”) took a license to Finjan’s patent
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`portfolio. In September 2014, Websense, Inc. took a license to Finjan’s patent portfolio.
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`Copying by Competitors:
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`On June 6, 2005 Finjan filed a complaint of infringement against Secure Computing
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`Corporation (“Secure Computing”) asserting that Secure Computing infringed the ‘780 and ‘822
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`Patents and a related patent. That case proceeded to trial, where the jury found that all of the asserted
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`Finjan patents were valid in light of the asserted prior art. Secure Computing was also found to
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`infringe the asserted patents, and awarded Finjan damages on Secure Computing revenue of $65.75
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`million. On August 18, 2009, the District Court in the Secure Computing case enhanced Finjan’s jury
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`verdict. The court based its reasoning for enhancing damages partly on a finding that “Finjan’s patents
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`Commercial Success:
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`Finjan had revenues of $6.5 million in 2001, $6.1 million in 2002, $9.3 million in 2003, $12.9
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`available to Finjan, Finjan’s Vital Security 7.0 product in or about 2004, and later versions,
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`incorporated technology of: claim 1, claim 9, claim 17, and claim 18 of the ‘780 Patent; claim 1, claim
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`Pursuant to Rule 33(d) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, additional information
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`responsive to this interrogatory will be in Finjan’s forthcoming document production in this matter.
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`Finjan’s investigation of this matter is ongoing and it will comply with Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(e) should
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`PROOF OF SERVICE
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`I, Steven D. Dennison, am employed in the Menlo Park, California office of Kramer Levin
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`Naftalis & Frankel LLP. I am over the age of 18 and not a party to the within action. My business
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`address is 990 Marsh Road, Menlo Park, California 94025. I am readily familiar with the firm’s
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`practice of collecting and processing of mail for mailing with the U.S. Postal Service and overnight
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`delivery services.
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`On February 25, 2015 I caused the following document(s) to be served:
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`PLAINTIFF FINJAN, INC.’S OBJECTIONS AND RESPONSES TO
`DEFENDANT PALO ALTO NETWORKS, INC.’S FIRST SET OF
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`by electronic mail, addressed as follows:
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`Michael A. Jacobs
`Emily Friesen Regier
`Morrison & Foerster LLP
`425 Market Street
`San Francisco, CA 94105-2482
`MJacobs@mofo.com
`ERegier@mofo.com
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`Rudy Y. Kim
`Morrison & Foerster LLP
`755 Page Mill Road
`Palo Alto, California 94304-1018
`RKim@mofo.com
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`I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct. Executed on February
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`25, 2015, in Menlo Park, California.
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`Steven D. Dennison
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