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UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`__________________
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`___________________
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`ACTIVISION BLIZZARD, INC.,
`ELECTRONIC ARTS INC.,
`TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE SOFTWARE, INC.,
`2K SPORTS, INC.,
`ROCKSTAR GAMES, INC., and
`BUNGIE, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`ACCELERATION BAY, LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`____________________
`
`Case IPR2015-019721
`U.S. Patent No. 6,701,344
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`__________________________________________________________
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`PATENT OWNER’S MOTION FOR OBSERVATIONS
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`1 Bungie, Inc., who filed a Petition in IPR2016-00934, has been joined as a
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`petitioner in this proceeding.
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`Patent Owner’s Motion for Observations
`IPR2015-01972 (U.S. Patent No. 6,701,344)
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`Patent Owner Finjan, Inc. submits the following observations of the October
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`27, 2016 cross-examination of David Karger (Ex. 2109) and October 27, 2016
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`cross-examination of Mr. Gerard Grenier (Ex. 2110):
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`I.
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`Dr. Karger’s Cross-Examination
`1. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 18, line 11–Pg. 19, line 1, the witness testified:
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`Q.· Okay.· And would a person of skill in the art have known about
`these models in the years 2000?
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`A.· Yes, I believe so.
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`Q.· Would a person of skill in the art who was designing software to
`run on the Internet have known about the OSI and TCP/IP models in
`2000?
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`A.· Yes.
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`Q.· And would a person of skill in the art who was designing routers
`have known about these models in 2000?
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`A.· Yes.
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`Q.· So these models were familiar to a person of skill in the art in the
`year 2000?
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`A.· Yes.
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`This testimony is relevant because it contradicts Petitioner’s implication that a
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`POSITA reading the ‘344 Patent would not have understood the OSI model. See
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`Pet. Reply, pg. 8 (“Because ’344 never refers to the “OSI” model or “layer,” let
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`alone an “application layer,” PO improperly relies on POSITA’s supposed
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`understandings to fabricate this limitation.”).
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`2. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 48, line 15– Pg. 49, line 12, the witness testified:
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`"What is a neighbor participant in the context of the '344 patent?")
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`A.· So "neighbor participants" is a term that's used in some of the
`claims of the '344 patent, and "participant" is a term that has a plain
`and ordinary meaning. With regard to "neighbors," column 4, line --
`where did it go? -- line 27 of the patent states that "in one embodiment
`each computer is connected to four other computers referred to as
`neighbors." So the interpretation is that "neighbors" here is a name for
`the computers to which the -- a particular computer is connected.
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`Q.· Can you read the next sentence in parentheses after the one you
`just read?
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`A.· Yes.· "Actually a process executing on a computer is connected to
`four other processes executing on this or four other computers."
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`This testimony is relevant because it reveals that Petitioner ignored clarifying text
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`in the specification in arriving at its proposed constructions for the terms
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`“participant” and “connection”. See Pet. Reply, pg. 2 (“But the specification
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`doesn’t limit a network “participant” this way (e.g., Ex1101 1:44-49, 1:40-43,
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`1:54-67; 2:14-20; 2:31-38), referring instead to connections between computers
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`(e.g., id. 4:24-25, 4:51-57).).”).
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`3. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 75, line 15–Pg. 76, line 4, the witness testified:
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`"So whether or not the '344 patent describes a flooding algorithm per
`your definition, does that necessarily mean that a person reading this
`document would be using it to design a network layer protocol?")
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`A.· So as I assert in my declaration, flooding is a process of relaying
`packets from node to node in order to broadcast them through the
`network, and the OSI model does characterize this as a network layer
`functionality….
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`and
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`In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 65, lines 13–17, the witness testified:
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`Q.· Does the '344 patent mention packets?
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`A.· (Witness reviews document.) So I don't recall whether the word
`"packet" appears in the patent, if that's what you're asking.
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`This testimony is relevant because contradicts Petitioner’s argument that the
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`invention of the ‘344 Patent is not limited to the application layer. See Pet. Reply,
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`pgs. 2, 8.
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`4. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 80, line 12 - pg. 81, line 10, the witness testified:
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`Flooding is a particular -- or is a class of protocols that distribute
`information broadly by forwarding it and having each node that
`receives a packet forwarded further to its other neighbors.
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`Q.· Do you understand the '344 patent to describe a technique wherein
`that network layer functionality is abstracted away?
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`MR. DAVIS:· Objection.· Form.
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`A.· You're asking if the patent describes the technique of abstracting
`away layers?
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`Q.· No.· I'm asking whether the '344 patent describes a technique
`wherein that particular network layer functionality is abstracted away?
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`MR. DAVIS:· Objection.· Form.
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`A.· (Witness reviews document.) So I would say that the patent is
`making use of an abstraction of functionality when it talks about
`sending messages between neighbors without describing all of the
`details of how that sending of messages between neighbors actually
`takes place.
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`This testimony is relevant because contradicts Petitioner’s argument that the
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`invention of the ‘344 Patent is not limited to the application layer. See Pet. Reply,
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`pgs. 2, 8.
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`5. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 97, line 6 - pg. 98, line 6, the witness testified:
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`"So would it be fair to say that you could have a point-to-point
`connection between processes that are implemented through a point-
`to-point network protocol?")
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`A.· So as we've discussed before, I think, a connection is a general
`plain and ordinary meaning term, and so it is certainly legitimate to
`talk about a connection between a pair of processes, and one could
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`refer to the implementation of that connection through a point-to-point
`communication protocol.
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`This testimony is relevant because it contradicts Petitioner’s that the recitation of
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`TCP/IP connections in dependent claim 8 “belies PO’s repeated attempts to limit
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`the claimed network to OSI’s application layer.” Pet. Reply at 2.
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`6. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 139, line 19- pg. 140, line 14, the witness testified:
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`Q.· So in the context of the '344 patent, could a game environment be
`a football field?
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`A.· Yes, that certainly is an environment for playing a game.
`
`Q.· Would a person of ordinary skill in the art reading the '344 patent
`understand a game environment to include a football field?
`
`A.· As I just said, they would understand that the plain and ordinary
`meaning of "game environment" encompasses something like a
`football field.
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`Q.· Could a… football field be implemented using broadcast
`channels?
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`A.· Well, megaphones are pretty popular in football games, and
`they're used to broadcast sound.· So you could certainly include a
`broadcast channel in your implication of a football field.
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`This testimony is relevant because it calls into question Dr. Karger’s credibility
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`and shows that Petitioner’s proposed construction of the term “game environment”
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`was not informed by the specification.
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`7. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 146, line 6–Pg. 147 line 2, the witness testified:
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`"The proposed construction of claim 1 of 'game environment,' which
`would be in claim 1, is 'a logical broadcast channel in which a game is
`played.' Is that the same limitation that is recited in claim 12?)"
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`MR. DAVIS:· Objection.· Form.
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`A.· Well, they're not the same, because they use different words.·
`They -- in fact, claim 12 seems to cover more than just a logical
`broadcast channel on which a game is played, because it could also --
`it -- it's tough.· I have to think.
`
`Claim 12 certainly encompasses a logical broadcast channel on which
`a game is played.· Any instance of a logical broadcast channel on
`which a game is played would be covered by the limitation of claim
`12.
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`This testimony is relevant because it contradicts Petitioner’s argument the
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`recitation of the term “broadcast channel” raises “a presumption that the limitation
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`in question is not found in [cl.1].” Pet. Reply, pg. 2.
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`8. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 149, lines 12-19, the witness testified:
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`Q.· Okay.· Does the construction proposed by patent owner indicate
`how the logical broadcast channel is formed?
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`A.· The construction of patent owner simply construes a logical
`broadcast channel on which a game is played and does not construe
`anything about how that logical broadcast channel is formed.
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`This testimony is relevant because it contradicts Petitioner’s argument the
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`Patent Owner’s Motion for Observations
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`recitation of the term “broadcast channel” raises “a presumption that the limitation
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`in question is not found in [cl.1]” because claim 12 indicates how the broadcast
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`channel is “form[ed]” for a “game of interest.” Pet. Reply, pg. 2.
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`9. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 171, line 2 - pg. 172, line 7, the witness testified:
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`Q.· Does the term "game environment" have any bearing on what the
`participants of this computer network are?
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`A.· (Witness reviews document.) So, no, the presence of the term
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`"game environment"
`"participants."
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`there doesn't affect my
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`interpretation of
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`Q.· What is the effect of the term "game environment" on the meaning
`of claim 1?
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`A.· Well, it indicates that claim 1 is directed toward providing a game
`environment.
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`Q.· And does the term "game environment" have any bearing on any
`of the other claim terms?
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`*
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`*
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`*
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`*
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`*
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`*
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`A.· Which claim terms?· Where?
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`Q.· Any of them.
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`A.· In the whole patent?
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`Q.· In the claim 1.
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`MR. DAVIS:· Same objection.
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`A.· No, I don't think that it does.
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`This testimony is relevant because it calls into question Dr. Karger’s credibility
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`and shows that Petitioner’s proposed construction of the term “participant” was not
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`informed by the specification or the claims.
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`10. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 176, line 21–Pg. 177 line 14, the witness testified:
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`Q.· If a computer network could not provide a football field, which is
`an example of a game environment according to your plain and
`ordinary meaning, does that mean your plain and ordinary meaning is
`too broad in the context of claim 1?
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`MR. DAVIS:· Objection.· Form.
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`A.· I don't think so, in the sense that a game environment has a plain
`and ordinary meaning.· Certain game environments might not fulfill
`the limitations of claim 1.
`
`Q.· Is it your opinion that your plain and ordinary meaning of the term
`"game environment" is consistent with the specification of the '344
`patent?
`
`A.· Yes.
`
`Q.· Even though your plain and ordinary meaning encompasses a
`football field?
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`A.· Yes.
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`This testimony is relevant because it calls into question Dr. Karger’s credibility
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`Patent Owner’s Motion for Observations
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`and shows that Petitioner’s proposed construction of the term “participant” was not
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`informed by the specification.
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`11. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 183, line 22- pg. 184, line 2, the witness testified:
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`Q.· Are IP multicast networks examples of point-to-multipoint
`networks?
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`MR. DAVIS:· I object to form.
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`A.· I would characterize "IP multicast" as an IP -- as a point-to-
`multipoint protocol.
`
`In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 189, lines 9–15, the witness testified:
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`Q.· What is IP multicast in the context of Gautier?
`
`A.· (Witness reviews document.) As we were just discussing with
`McCanne, IP multicast is a protocol for distributing information from
`a single sender to an arbitrary number of recipients.
`
`This testimony is relevant because it contradicts Petitioner’s argument that
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`“MBone is an overlay network built on top of the Internet’s generic point-to-point
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`communication capability.” Pet. Opp. to Mot. To Amend, pg. 9.
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`12. In Exhibit 2109, Pg. 191, lines 5-10, the witness testified:
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`Q.· Okay.· Thank you. Does figure 2 show a complete network or a
`noncomplete network?
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`A.· (Witness reviews document.) It's not really clear that figure 2
`shows a network at all.
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`This testimony is relevant because it contradicts Petitioner’s argument that
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`Gautier’s Fig. 2 shows a “game environment [] provided by at least one game
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`application program executing on each computer of the dynamic, overlay computer
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`network that interacts with a broadcast channel.” Pet. Opp. to Mot. To Amend, pg.
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`22.
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`II. Mr. Grenier’s Cross-Examination
`13.
`In Exhibit 2110, Pg 14, lines 15 – 20, the witness testified:
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`Q. And again the IEEE Digital Library when was that first made
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`available?
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`A: It was first put online in June 2000 – in 2000.
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`This testimony is relevant to whether the additional references submitted by
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`Petitioner in its Reply to the Patent Owner Response were publicly available in
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`1999. Mr. Grenier indicates that IEEE was not online until June 2000.
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`
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`Dated: November 10, 2016
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`
`
`/James Hannah/
`
`James Hannah (Reg. No. 56,369)
`jhannah@kramerlevin.com
`Michael Lee (Reg. No. 63,941)
`mhlee@kramerlevin.com
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`(Case No. IPR2015-01972)
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`Patent Owner’s Motion for Observations
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`Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
`990 Marsh Road
`Menlo Park, CA 94025
`Tel: 650.752.1700 Fax: 650.752.1800
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`Shannon Hedvat (Reg. No. 68,417)
`shedvat@kramerlevin.com
`Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
`1177 Avenue of the Americas
`New York, NY 10036
`Tel: 212.715.9185 Fax: 212.715.8000
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`Attorneys for Patent Owner
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.6(e), the undersigned certifies that a true and
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`correct copy of the foregoing Patent Owner’s Motion for Observations was served
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`on November 10, 2016, by filing this document through the Patent Review
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`Processing System as well as delivering via electronic mail upon the following
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`counsel of record for Petitioner:
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`
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`J. Steven Baughman
`Ropes & Gray LLP
`2099 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
`Washington D.C. 20006-6807
`steven.baughman@ropesgray.com
`Activision_Blizzard_PTAB_Service@ropesgray.com
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`Andrew Thomases
`Daniel W. Richards
`James L. Davis, Jr.
`ROPES & GRAY LLP
`1900 University Ave., 6th Floor
`East Palo Alto, CA 94303
`andrew.thomases@ropesgray.com
`Daniel.w.richards@ropesgray.com
`james.l.davis@ropesgray.com
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`Matthew R. Shapiro
`Joseph E. Van Tassel
`ROPES & GRAY LLP
`1211 Avenue of the Americas
`New York, NY 10036
`matthew.shapiro@ropesgray.com
`joseph.vantassel@ropesgray.com
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`Mike Tomasulo
`WINSTON &STRAWN LLP
`333 S. Grand Avenue, 38th Floor
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`Los Angeles, CA 90071
`mtomasulo@winston.com
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`Michael M. Murray
`WINSTON &STRAWN LLP
`275 Middlefield Road, Suite 205
`Menlo Park, CA 94025
`mmurray@winston.com
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`Andrew R. Sommer
`WINSTON &STRAWN LLP
`1700 K. Street, N.W.
`Washington D.C. 20006-3817
`asommer@winston.com
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`Counsel for Petitioner Activision Blizzard, Inc.,
`Electronic Arts Inc., Take-Two Interactive Software,
`Inc., 2K Sports, Inc., and Rockstar Games, Inc.
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`Patent Owner’s Motion for Observations
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`Michael T. Rosato
`Andrew S. Brown
`WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI
`701 Fifth Avenue, Suite 5100
`Seattle, WA 98104-7036
`mrosato@wsgr.com
`asbrown@wsgr.com
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`Jose C. Villarreal
`Eric C. Arnell
`WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI
`900 South Capital of Texas Hwy
`Las Cimas IV, Fifth Floor
`Austin, TX 78746-5546
`jvillarreal@wsgr.com
`earnell@wsgr.com
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`Counsel for Petitioner Bungie, Inc.
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`/James Hannah/
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`James Hannah (Reg. No. 56,369)
`Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
`990 Marsh Road,
`Menlo Park, CA 94025
`(650) 752-1700
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