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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`SYMANTEC CORP., and
`BLUE COAT SYSTEMS, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`FINJAN, INC.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2015-018921
`U.S. Patent No. 8,677,494
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`PATENT OWNER’S REPLY TO PETITIONER’S OPPOSITION TO
`PATENT OWNER’S MOTION TO EXCLUDE
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`1 Case IPR2016-00890 has been joined with the instant proceeding.
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`Introduction
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`I.
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`The Board should grant Patent Owner’s Motion to Exclude (“Motion,” Paper
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`41) for the reasons set forth below and in the Motion.
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`II. The Board Should Exclude Exhibits Exs. 1026, 1027, 1030-1032 and
`1036-1043 As Outside the Proper Scope of Reply.
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`The new evidence Petitioner introduced in its Reply should be excluded.
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`Motion at 2–5. “[T]he expedited nature of IPRs bring with it an obligation for
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`petitioners to make their case in their petition to institute” unlike in district courts
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`where “parties have greater freedom to revise and develop their arguments over
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`time.” Intelligent Bio-Sys., Inc. v. Illumina Cambridge Ltd., 821 F.3d 1359, 1369–
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`70 (Fed. Cir. 2016). Indeed, contrary to Petitioner’s assertions, the Federal Circuit
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`recognizes the appropriateness and timeliness of Patent Owner’s request here:
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`“[Patent Owner] may move to exclude evidence, whether as improper under the
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`response-only regulation, under the Trial Practice Guide’s advice, or on other
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`grounds.” Belden Inc. v. Berk-Tek LLC, 805 F.3d 1064, 1081 (Fed. Cir. 2015).
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`First, Petitioner claims that the newly filed evidence submitted with its
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`Reply was to rebut Patent Owner’s arguments, but does not dispute that this
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`information was available at the time it filed the Petition. Petitioner cannot explain
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`away the new evidence it cites in order to cure deficiencies in its Petition. See
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`Motion at 1–5. This is further exemplified by Petitioner’s admission that it had
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`considered Exhibits 1030 – 1032 and 1036 prior to filing its Petition, but failed to
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`submit these exhibits at the time of its Petition. Instead, Petitioner tried to sandbag
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`Patent Owner with new references and arguments that Patent Owner has
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`prejudicially had no opportunity to substantively respond to. Motion at 3–4.
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`Second, Petitioner should have been well aware that Patent Owner would
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`challenge any date for the Swimmer document that Petitioner planned to rely on
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`based on Patent Owner’s objections to evidence. Motion at 2-4. Accordingly, at
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`the very least, the Ford, Kiegel, and Hawes Declarations and supporting exhibits
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`could have been served as supplemental evidence.
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`Therefore, the Board should exercise its discretion in excluding Exs. 1026,
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`1027, 1030-1032 and 1036-1043.
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`III. The Board Should Exclude Davidson’s Declarations (Exs. 1018 and
`1027).
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`The Board should exclude Dr. Davidson’s testimony because his opinions
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`are unreliable and conclusory. See Motion at 5–7. Indeed, Petitioner does not
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`dispute that Dr. Davidson’s testimony is unreliable because Dr. Davidson’s
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`testimony is directly contradicted by Petitioner’s definition of “database.”
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`Compare id. with Petitioner’s Opposition (Paper 48) at 11–12. Thus, the Board
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`should exclude Exhibits 1018 and 1027.
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`IV. Petitioner Narrowly Represents Patent Owner’s Objections and
`Swimmer Should Be Excluded.
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`As an initial matter, Patent Owner’s objections to evidence include
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`objections to the Swimmer Document (Ex. 1005), which indicates objections based
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`on authentication, hearsay, and lack of personal knowledge. See Paper 11 at 2. In
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`fact, Patent Owner specifically references its objections relating to the Swimmer’s
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`alleged “public accessibility as a printed publication.” Id. Notwithstanding the
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`foregoing, Petitioner disregards and fails to address Patent Owner’s multiple
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`reasons for seeking to exclude Swimmer. Thus, for this reason alone, and those set
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`forth in its Motion, the Swimmer Document should be excluded. Motion at 10-14.
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`V. The Board Should Exclude the Hall-Ellis Declarations (Exhibits 1006
`and 1037).
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`The Board should exclude both Hall-Ellis declarations, and at the very least,
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`Exhibit 1037 because it was untimely for the reasons explained above. As a
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`preliminary matter, it is Petitioner’s burden to demonstrate the veracity of Dr.
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`Hall-Ellis’ statements and thus, Petitioner’s contention that “Patent Owner
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`provides no evidence whatsoever to refuse Dr. Hall-Ellis’ testimony” is
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`misleading. Petitioner’s Opposition at 5. Moreover, Dr. Hall-Ellis repeatedly
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`admitted that she lacked personal knowledge regarding the public availability of
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`the Swimmer Document. Motion at 8–10. Her opinions, therefore, are conclusory
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`and unreliable. Id. at 7-10.
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`Furthermore, and tellingly, Petitioner claims that “Dr. Hall-Ellis confirmed
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`that the copy of Swimmer in Ex. 1026 is the same as in Exs. 1005 and 1010” but
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`fails to point to any support in either her declarations or deposition testimony to
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`confirm its representation. Compare Petitioner’s Opposition at 6 with Motion at 9.
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`For these reasons, and those set forth in the Motion, the Hall-Ellis
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`Declarations should be excluded.
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`VI. The Board Should Exclude the Newly Filed Hawes Declaration and
`Supporting Exhibits (Exhibits 1044 – 1048).
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`Petitioner’s newly filed Hawes Declaration and supporting exhibits should
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`be excluded as being untimely. Although Petitioner knew that Patent Owner was
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`challenging the public availability of the Swimmer Document, Petitioner waited
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`until its Opposition to Patent Owner’s Motion to Exclude before filing these
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`exhibits. The Board should not condone Petitioner’s gamesmanship of submitting
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`five new exhibits, which once again, could have been filed with its Petition, and at
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`the very latest, with its Reply. Incredibly, Mr. Hawes’ first declaration is dated in
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`October 2015 (Ex. 1044) and Mr. Hawes admitted that the exhibits in his second
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`declaration (Ex. 1045) could have been included with his first declaration and in
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`fact, certain of the exhibits are stored with and contained in the same manual as the
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`exhibits to his first declaration. Ex. 2042, Hawes Rough Tr. at 34:4–20. Thus,
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`Exhibits 1044–1048 should be excluded because Petitioner’s reliance is highly
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`prejudicial to Patent Owner. Fed. R. Evid. 403.
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`Moreover, the Hawes Declaration (Ex. 1045) and exhibits should be
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`excluded because they are hearsay. In fact, contrary to Petitioner’s representations,
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`Mr. Hawes did not “testif[y] that the Swimmer article was made available and
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`distributed to 163 attendees at the September 1995 Conference.” Petitioner’s
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`Opposition at 10. Rather, Mr. Hawes admitted during deposition that the “163
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`attendees” in Exhibit A to his declaration were only registered delegates for which
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`there is no confirmation of whether they even attended the conference.2 Ex. 2042,
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`Hawes Rough Tr. at 22:15–23: 2. Thus, for the foregoing reasons, the Hawes
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`Declarations should be excluded.
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`VII. Conclusion
`For the foregoing reasons, the Board should grant Patent Owner’s Motion to
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`Exclude.
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`2 Petitioner only relies on Exhibit 1045 in support of its statement that “the
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`Swimmer article was made available and distributed to 163 attendees at the
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`September 1995 Conference.” Petitioner’s Opposition at 10.
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`Dated: December 2, 2016
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`Patent Owner’s Reply ISO Motion to Exclude
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`/James Hannah/
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`James Hannah (Reg. No. 56,369)
`jhannah@kramerlevin.com
`Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
`990 Marsh Road
`Menlo Park, CA 94025
`Tel: 650.752.1700 Fax: 650.752.1800
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`Jeffrey Price (Reg. No. 69,141)
`jprice@kramerlevin.com
`Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
`1177 Avenue of the Americas
`New York, NY 10036
`Tel: 212.715.7502 Fax: 212.715.8302
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`Michael Kim (Reg. No. 40,450)
`mkim@finjan.com
`Finjan, Inc.
`2000 University Ave., Ste. 600
`E. Palo Alto, CA 94303
`Tel: 650.397.9567
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` (Case No. IPR2015-01892) Attorneys for Patent Owner
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.6(e), the undersigned certifies that a true and
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`correct copy of the foregoing Patent Owner’s Reply to Petitioner’s Opposition to
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`Patent Owner’s Motion to Exclude was served on December 2, 2016, by filing this
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`document through the Patent Review Processing System as well as delivering via
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`electronic mail upon the following counsel of record for Petitioner and Joinder
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`Petitioner:
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`Daniel A. Crowe
`BRYAN CAVE LLP
`One Metropolitan Square
`211 N. Broadway, Suite 3600
`St. Louis, MO 63102
`dacrowe@bryancave.com
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` /James Hannah/
`James Hannah (Reg. No. 56,369)
`Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
`990 Marsh Road,
`Menlo Park, CA 94025
`(650) 752-1700
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`Joseph J. Richetti
`BRYAN CAVE LLP
`1290 Avenue of the Americas
`New York, NY 10104
`joe.richetti@bryancave.com
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`Michael T. Rosato
`Andrew S. Brown
`WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH
`& ROSATI
`701 Fifth Ave., Ste. 5100
`Seattle, WA 98104
`mrosato@wsgr.com
`asbrown@wsgr.com