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`IPR2015-01750, Paper 75
`IPR2015-01751, Paper 77
`IPR2015-01752, Paper 75
`Entered: October 26, 2016
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`RPX CORPORATION,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`APPLICATIONS IN INTERNET TIME, LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2015-01750
`Patent 8,484,111 B2
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`Case IPR2015-01751
`Case IPR2015-01752
`Patent 7,356,482 B21
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`Before LYNNE E. PETTIGREW, MITCHELL G. WEATHERLY, and
`JENNIFER MEYER CHAGNON, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`CHAGNON, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Request for Oral Argument
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
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`1 This order addresses issues common to all cases; therefore, we issue a
`single order to be entered in each case.
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`IPR2015-01750 (Patent 8,484,111 B2)
`IPR2015-01751, IPR2015-01752 (Patent 7,356,482 B2)
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`The Scheduling Orders for these inter partes reviews set a date of
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`November 8, 2016, for oral argument, if requested by either party and
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`granted by the Board. IPR2015-01750 (Paper 52); IPR2015-01751
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`(Paper 52); IPR2015-01752 (Paper 52). Petitioner requested oral hearing
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`pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70. IPR2015-01750 (Paper 74); IPR2015-01751
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`(Paper 76); IPR2015-01752 (Paper 74). At the request of the parties, a
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`conference call including Judges Pettigrew, Weatherly, and Chagnon, as
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`well as counsel for the parties, was held on October 25, 2016, to discuss the
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`oral hearing.
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`The requests for oral hearing are granted. The hearing will
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`commence at 1:00 PM EST, on November 8, 2016, on the ninth Floor of the
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`Madison Building East, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria, Virginia.
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`The hearing will be open to the public for in-person attendance, which
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`will be accommodated on a first-come, first-serve basis. The parties are
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`reminded that, because the hearing is open to the public, confidential
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`information is not to be discussed during the hearing. Patent Owner’s
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`counsel expressly indicated during the October 25, 2016, conference call
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`that confidential information would not be discussed during the hearing.
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`The patents at issue in these inter partes reviews are directed to
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`similar subject matter and are challenged on similar grounds by the same
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`Petitioner. We, therefore, exercise our discretion to consolidate the oral
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`hearings in these cases. The transcript will be entered into each proceeding;
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`however, any argument or evidence presented by a party at the consolidated
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`hearing will be applicable only in the proceeding in which the record
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`provides a proper foundation for such argument or evidence.
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`IPR2015-01750 (Patent 8,484,111 B2)
`IPR2015-01751, IPR2015-01752 (Patent 7,356,482 B2)
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`Each side will have ninety (90) minutes total to present its argument,
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`and may divide the time between the cases as it wishes. The Board will
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`provide a court reporter for the hearing and the reporter’s transcript will
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`constitute the official record of the hearing.
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`The parties are responsible for allocating their total argument time
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`among the three cases. Petitioner bears the ultimate burden of proof that the
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`claims at issue are unpatentable. Therefore, Petitioner will open the hearing
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`by presenting argument relating to the challenged claims for which we
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`instituted trial. Petitioner may reserve some argument time for rebuttal.
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`Thereafter, Patent Owner will respond to Petitioner’s arguments.
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`Petitioner’s rebuttal argument, if presented, will be limited to addressing
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`issues raised during Patent Owner’s responsive argument. Patent Owner
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`may not reserve time for rebuttal.
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`During the conference call, the parties questioned whether arguments
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`included in the Patent Owner Preliminary Response, but not expressly
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`included in the Patent Owner Response, could be presented at the oral
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`hearing. We informed the parties that arguments presented at the oral
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`hearing should be within the scope of the arguments presented in the trial
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`papers (i.e., Petition, Patent Owner Response, Petitioner’s Reply, and Patent
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`Owner’s Sur-Reply). At the oral hearing, either party may bring to the
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`panel’s attention that it believes a particular argument presented by the other
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`party is not supported by the trial papers.
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`Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b), the parties shall serve demonstrative
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`exhibits upon each other no later than October 28, 2016. The parties also
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`shall provide a courtesy copy of the demonstrative exhibits to the Board no
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`later than November 3, 2016, by e-mailing them to Trials@uspto.gov. Each
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`IPR2015-01750 (Patent 8,484,111 B2)
`IPR2015-01751, IPR2015-01752 (Patent 7,356,482 B2)
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`party shall provide a hard copy of their demonstratives to the court reporter
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`at the hearing. Notwithstanding 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b), the parties shall not
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`file any demonstrative exhibits in this proceeding without prior authorization
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`from the Board. Further, the parties are directed to refrain from including
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`confidential information in any demonstrative exhibit.
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`The parties must meet and confer in good faith to resolve any
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`objections to demonstrative exhibits prior to submitting courtesy copies to
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`the Board. If any objection cannot be resolved, the objecting party may file
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`a statement of objections with the Board no later than November 3, 2016.
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`The objections should identify with particularity which demonstrative
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`exhibits are subject to objection, and include a short (one sentence or less)
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`statement of the reason for each objection. No argument or further
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`explanation is permitted. Any objection to demonstrative exhibits that is not
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`timely presented will be deemed waived. No response to objections shall be
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`filed by either party. The Board will consider the objections and schedule a
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`conference if deemed necessary. Otherwise, the Board will reserve ruling on
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`the objections until after the oral hearing. The parties are directed to
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`St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Division, Inc. v. The Board of Regents of the
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`University of Michigan, Case IPR2013-00041 (PTAB Jan. 27, 2014)
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`(Paper 65), for guidance regarding the appropriate content of demonstrative
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`exhibits.
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`The Board expects lead counsel for each party to be present in person
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`at the hearing. Lead or backup counsel, however, may present the party’s
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`argument. If either party anticipates that its lead counsel will not be
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`attending the hearing, that party should initiate a joint telephone conference
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`with the other party and the Board no later than November 3, 2016 to discuss
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`IPR2015-01750 (Patent 8,484,111 B2)
`IPR2015-01751, IPR2015-01752 (Patent 7,356,482 B2)
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`the matter. As indicated during the conference call, Patent Owner is
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`authorized to file an updated mandatory notice adding Mr. Steven Sereboff
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`as back-up counsel only. If an updated mandatory notice is filed,
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`Mr. Sereboff may present arguments at the oral hearing; however, lead
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`counsel for Patent Owner, currently Mr. Jonathan Pearce, must also be
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`present at the oral hearing.
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`Questions regarding specific audio-visual equipment should be
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`directed to the Board at (571) 272-9797. Requests for audio-visual
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`equipment are to be made by e-mail to Trials@uspto.gov at least five
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`business days in advance of the hearing date. If the request is not received
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`timely, the equipment may not be available on the day of the hearing.
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`Accordingly, it is:
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`ORDERED that oral hearing, conducted pursuant to the procedures
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`outlined above, shall commence at 1:00 PM EST, on November 8, 2016, on
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`the ninth Floor of the Madison Building East, 600 Dulany Street,
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`Alexandria, Virginia.
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`IPR2015-01750 (Patent 8,484,111 B2)
`IPR2015-01751, IPR2015-01752 (Patent 7,356,482 B2)
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`PETITIONER:
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`Richard F. Giunta
`Elisabeth H. Hunt
`Randy J. Pritzker
`Michael N. Rader
`WOLF, GREENFIELD & SACKS, P.C.
`RGiunta-PTAB@wolfgreenfield.com
`EHunt-PTAB@wolfgreenfield.com
`RPritzker-PTAB@wolfgreenfield.com
`MRader-PTAB@wolfgreenfield.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`Jonathan Pearce
`M. Kala Sarvaiya
`SOCAL IP LAW GROUP LLP
`jpearce@socalip.com
`ksarvaiya@socalip.com
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