`By:
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`Joseph E. Palys
`Paul Hastings LLP
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`Washington, DC 20005
`Telephone: (202) 551-1996
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`E-mail: josephpalys@paulhastings.com
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`Paper No. ___
`Filed: June 20, 2016
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`Naveen Modi
`Paul Hastings LLP
`875 15th Street NW
`Washington, DC 20005
`Telephone: (202) 551-1990
`Facsimile: (202) 551-0490
`E-mail: naveenmodi@paulhastings.com
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`THE MANGROVE PARTNERS MASTER FUND, LTD., APPLE INC., and
`BLACK SWAMP IP, LLC,
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`VIRNETX INC.
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2015-010471
`Patent No. 7,490,151
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`PATENT OWNER’S REPLY TO
`PETITIONERS’ OPPOSITION OF MOTION TO EXCLUDE
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`1 Apple Inc. and Black Swamp IP, LLC, who filed petitions in IPR2016-00063 and
`IPR2016-00167, respectively, have been joined as Petitioners in the instant
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`Table of Contents
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`Exhibits 1029 and 1031-1033 Should Be Excluded ........................................ 1
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`Exhibits 1034, 1037, and 1039-1042 Should Be Excluded ............................. 3
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`III. Exhibits 1012, 1013 and 1044 Should Be Excluded ....................................... 5
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`TABLE OF AUTHORITIES
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`Cases
`Pozen Inc. v. Par Pharm., Inc.,
`696 F.3d 1511 (Fed. Cir. 2012) ............................................................................ 1
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`Conoco Inc. v. DOE,
`99 F.3d 387 (Fed. Cir. 1996) ................................................................................ 5
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`Doe v. United States,
`976 F.2d 1071 (7th Cir. 1992) ............................................................................. 1
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`People v. Bowers,
`801 P.2d 511 (Colo.1990) ..................................................................................... 2
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`Actifio, Inc., v. Delphix Corp.,
` IPR2015-00108, Paper No. 56 (Apr. 29, 2016) ................................................... 5
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`IBM Corp. v. Intellectual Ventures II LLC,
` IPR2015-00089, Paper No. 44 (Apr. 25, 2016) ................................................... 2
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`Compass Bank v. Intellectual Ventures II LLC,
` IPR2014-00724, Paper 41 (Nov. 5, 2015) ........................................................... 4
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`Rules
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`Federal Rule of Evidence 803 .................................................................................... 4
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`Federal Rule of Evidence 807 ............................................................................ 1, 4, 5
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`Federal Rule of Evidence 901 .................................................................................... 4
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`On June 13, 2016, Petitioners’ filed an Opposition (Paper No. 68) to Patent
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`Owner’s Motion to Exclude (Paper No. 66). Petitioners, however, provide
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`insufficient reasons for admitting the exhibits at issue, i.e., Exhibits 1012, 1013,
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`1029, 1031-1034, 1037, 1039-1042 and 1044.2 As such, Patent Owner’s Motion to
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`Exclude should be granted.
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`I.
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`Exhibits 1029 and 1031-1033 Should Be Excluded
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`Petitioners argue Exhibits 1029 and 1031-1033 should be admitted under the
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`residual exception of Fed. R. Evid. 807 and assert that courts have “wide
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`discretion” in applying this exception. Paper No. 68 at 1. However, “Congress
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`intended that the residual exception[] be used sparingly” and any “discretion is
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`‘tempered by the requirement that the exception be reserved for exceptional
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`cases.’” Doe v. United States, 976 F.2d 1071, 1074 (7th Cir. 1992). Indeed, a
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`sworn declaration assumed to be trustworthy was recently excluded. Pozen Inc. v.
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`Par Pharm., Inc., 696 F.3d 1151, 1161 n.6 (Fed. Cir. 2012) (even if the declaration
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`at issue was trustworthy, “this is not an exceptional case and thus does not warrant
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`the residual hearsay exception”).
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`The statements in Exhibits 1029 and 1031-1033 do not meet the five
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`requirements of Rule 807. Paper 66 at 4, 5. Petitioners argue Ms. Ginoza’s
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`2 Patent Owner withdraws its request to exclude Exhibits 1010 and 1014 as lacking
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`relevance.
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`statements in Exhibits 1029 and 1031 are corroborated by and corroborate the
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`statements in Exhibits 1032 and 1033 (Ex. 1032 at 9; Ex. 1033 at 3) relating to the
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`availability of RFCs from the IETF website that Petitioners rely on for their truth.3
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`Paper No. 68 at 2-4. This circular analysis must be rejected. “[T]he corroborative-
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`evidence requirement cannot be satisfied by using one or several . . . hearsay
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`statements to corroborate . . . another hearsay statement.” People v. Bowers, 801
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`P.2d 511, 527 (Colo. 1990). No evidence corroborates Ms. Ginoza’s statements,
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`and no evidence corroborates the statements in Exhibits 1032 and 1033.
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`Petitioners next argue Dr. Guerin’s declaration corroborates Ms. Ginoza’s
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`statements. Paper No. 68 at 7-8 (citing IBM Corp. v. Intellectual Ventures II LLC,
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`IPR2015-00089, Paper No. 44 (Apr. 25, 2016)). IBM does not support Petitioners’
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`position. In IBM, an Internet Archive manager provided an affidavit accompanied
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`with objective evidence establishing the publication date of the non-patent
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`literature in dispute. IBM, Paper No. 44 at 53-54. The Board relied on this
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`affidavit as evidence corroborating non-declarant hearsay statements regarding the
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`publication date. Id. at 53-57. In stark contrast, Dr. Guerin, which Petitioners
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`3 Petitioners assert that Exhibits 1032 and 1033 are being submitted for another
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`purpose as well and should be admitted. Paper No. 68 at 2 n.2. Patent Owner
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`disagrees as these exhibits are being submitted for their truth. Paper No. 48 at 43.
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`analogize to the Internet Archive manager in IBM, has not provided any objective
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`evidence establishing the publication dates of the RFCs in dispute.
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`Petitioners next argue Ms. Ginoza is capable of authenticating business
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`records. Paper No. 68 at 8. But Petitioners have not asserted, let alone established,
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`that the RFCs are business records subject to the business record exception.
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`Petitioners also miss that Ms. Ginoza failed to produce any records that support her
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`statements, and could not explain the basis for her statements. Paper No. 66 at 4.
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`Petitioners do not deny that that they could have contacted the authors of the
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`disputed documents to obtain more probative evidence as to their alleged
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`publication dates. Paper No. 68 at 8. Thus, Exhibits 1029 and 1031-1033
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`constitute hearsay with no exception.
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`II. Exhibits 1034, 1037, and 1039-1042 Should Be Excluded
`Petitioners assert that Exhibits 1037, 1041 and 1042 are “not [relied on] for
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`the truth of their contents.” Paper No. 68 at 8. This is incorrect. Petitioners rely
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`on these exhibits for their alleged truth. See, e.g., Paper No. 57 at 11 (relying on
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`the alleged truth of Exhibit 1037 to “confirm Dr. Guerin’s opinion”), 20 (relying
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`on the alleged truth of Exhibits 1041 and 1042 to show “RFC 2026 describes the
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`same fundamental process described in predecessor RFCs”), 21 (relying on the
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`alleged truth of Exhibits 1040 and 1041 being authored by Dr. Tamassia).
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`Petitioners next contend that Exhibits 1037, 1041 and 1042 fall under the
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`ancient documents exception, FRE 803(16). Paper No. 68 at 10. Exhibit 1037 was
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`not 20 years old when it was offered; it is not an ancient document. See FRE
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`901(b)(8)(C). Also, Petitioners have not established that the dates appearing on the
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`cover pages of these Exhibits reflect the age of the Exhibits. In addition, this rule
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`is limited to documents “whose authenticity is established.” Fed. R. Evid. 803(16).
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`Petitioners have not established the authenticity of these Exhibits. See Compass
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`Bank v. Intellectual Ventures II LLC, IPR2014-00724, Paper 41 at 56 (Nov. 5,
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`2015) (explaining that authenticity must be established regardless of whether it is
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`explicitly challenged by the opposing party).
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`Petitioners next argue that Exhibits 1034, 1037, and 1039-1042 fall under
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`the commercial list exception, FRE 803(17). That is incorrect. Petitioners have
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`not established that RFC documents are “generally relied on by the public or by
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`persons in particular occupations” akin to the “newspaper market reports,
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`telephone directories, and city directories” envisioned by FRE 803(17). Fed. R.
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`Evid. 803(17) advisory comm. nn.
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`Petitioners next argue that Exhibits 1034, 1037, and 1039-1042 fall under
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`the residual exception, FRE 807. These exhibits explicitly state that “does not
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`specify an Internet standard of any kind” (Ex. 1037 at 1; Ex. 1039 at 1; Ex. 1041 at
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`1), and Exhibit 1040 is labelled as an “INTERNET DRAFT” (Ex. 1040 at 1).
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`These statements undermine Petitioners’ bald assertion that these exhibits “are
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`standards that were prepared for and intended for adherence by the public” and
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`“possess the requisite indicia of trustworthiness on their respective cover pages.”
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`Paper No. 68 at 12.
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`In addition, these exhibits are also not more probative on the point for which
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`they are offered than other evidence Petitioners could have obtained through
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`reasonable efforts. For example, Petitioners could have contacted the purported
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`authors of these exhibits to obtain declarations. Admitting these exhibits is not “in
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`the interests of justice,” as required by FRE 807. This is simply not one of those
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`“exceptional” cases where admitting hearsay evidence under the residual exception
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`is warranted. Conoco Inc. v. DOE, 99 F.3d 387, 392 (Fed. Cir. 1996).
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`III.
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` Exhibits 1012, 1013 and 1044 Should Be Excluded
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`Exhibits 1012 and 1013 were not cited by Dr. Guerin (in Ex. 1003) as
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`forming the basis for his positions that are relevant to this proceeding. See Actifio,
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`Inc., v. Delphix Corp., IPR2015-00108, Paper No. 56 at 57 (Apr. 29, 2016)
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`(excluding exhibits that were not relied upon). Thus, these exhibits should be
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`excluded.
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`Petitioners do not deny failing to rely on Exhibit 1044. See Paper No. 68 at
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`15. It should thus be excluded as irrelevant.
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`Dated: June 20, 2016
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`By: /Joseph E. Palys/
`Joseph E. Palys
`Reg. No. 46,508
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`Counsel for VirnetX, Inc.
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`I hereby certify that on this 20th day of June 2016, a copy of the foregoing
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`Patent Owner’s Reply to Petitioner’s Opposition to Motion to Exclude was served
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`electronically upon the following:
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`Abraham Kasdan (akasdan@wiggin.com)
`Wiggin and Dana LLP
`450 Lexington Avenue
`New York, NY 10017
`IP@wiggin.com
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`James T. Bailey (jtb@jtbaileylaw.com)
`504 W. 136th St. #1B
`New York, NY 10031
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`Jeffrey P. Kushan
`Scott Border
`Thomas A. Broughan III
`Sidley Austin LLP
`1501 K Street NW
`Washington, DC 20005
`iprnotices@sidley.com
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`Thomas H. Martin
`Wesley C. Meinerding
`Martin & Ferraro, LLP
`1557 Lake O’Pines Street, NE
`Hartville, Ohio 44632
`tmartin@martinferraro.com
`docketing@martinferraro.com
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`Respectfully submitted,
`By: /Joseph E. Palys/
`Joseph E. Palys
`Reg. No. 46,508
`Counsel for VirnetX Inc.
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`Dated: June 20, 2016