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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT AMERICA LLC
`Petitioner
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`APLIX IP HOLDINGS CORPORATION
`Patent Owner
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`Case No. IPR2015-00476
`Patent No. 7,218,313
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`PATENT OWNER APLIX IP HOLDINGS CORPORATION’S
`MOTION FOR OBSERVATION ON DECEMBER 17, 2015
`DEPOSITION OF GREGORY F. WELCH
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`Pursuant to 77 Fed. Reg. 48756, 48768 (Aug. 14, 2012), Patent Owner Aplix
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`IP Holdings Corporation submits the following observations on the December 17,
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`2015 deposition of Gregory Welch (exhibit 2051).
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`In Exhibit 2051 (’313 Welch 12-17-15 deposition), on page 6, line 22
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`through page 8, line 24, Dr. Welch testified about his supplemental declaration’s
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`discussion of the Rekimoto reference, including his understanding that with respect
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`to the 00396 and 00476 IPRs relating to the ’313 patent, the Board was presented
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`with the Rekimoto reference but opted not to include it in the instituted proceeding.
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`This testimony is relevant to Dr. Welch’s testimony arguing points about Rekimoto
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`in exhibit 1042 (00476 Welch supplemental declaration), ¶ 15. The testimony is
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`relevant because it shows that the example on which Dr. Welch relies is not prior
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`art upon which this proceeding was instituted.
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`2.
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`In Exhibit 2051 (’313 Welch 12-17-15 deposition), on page 16, line
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`20, through page 17, line 25, Dr. Welch testified that he found no disclosure in the
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`Itaya patent (exhibit 1028) implementing multi-touch on the scale of a hand-held
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`device, but rather that the document was not specific about size or scale. This
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`testimony is relevant to Dr. Welch’s testimony about Itaya in exhibit 1042 (00476
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`Welch supplemental declaration), ¶ 13. The testimony is relevant because it shows
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`the limited significance of Dr. Welch’s testimony about Itaya.
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`3.
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`In Exhibit 2051 (’313 Welch 12-17-15 deposition), on page 18, line
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`19, through page 19, line 12, Dr. Welch testified that exhibit 1051, which he had
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`cited in disagreeing with Mr. Lim’s testimony regarding a processor, shows that
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`the processor “integrate[d] all of the common logic and I/O functionality
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`associated with a PC/AT computing system.” This testimony is relevant to
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`Mr. Lim’s testimony regarding small handsets supporting limited external
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`peripherals in exhibit 2009 (00476 Lim declaration), ¶ 78. The testimony is
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`relevant because it supports Mr. Lim’s opinion.
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`4.
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`In Exhibit 2051 (’313 Welch 12-17-15 deposition), on page 20, line
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`11, through page 21, line 14, Dr. Welch testified about a patent issued to Aebli, et
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`al. (exhibit 1024), but could not point to anything in that patent showing an input
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`controller inside a mobile phone. This testimony is relevant to Dr. Welch’s
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`testimony (responding to Mr. Lim’s opinions) in exhibit 2042 (00476 Welch
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`supplemental declaration), ¶ 21. The testimony is relevant because it shows the
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`limited significance of Dr. Welch’s testimony about Aebli.
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`By: ___/Sybil L. Dunlop/________________________
` Robert J. Gilbertson (pro hac vice)
`Sybil L. Dunlop (pro hac vice)
`X. Kevin Zhao (pro hac vice)
`GREENE ESPEL PLLP
`222 South Ninth Street, Suite 2200
`Minneapolis, MN 55402
`Telephone: (612) 373-0830
`Facsimile:
`(612) 373-0929
`E-mail: BGilbertson@GreeneEspel.com
` SDunlop@GreeneEspel.com
` KZhao@GreeneEspel.com
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`Michael Mauriel, USPTO Reg. No. 44,226
`Sherman W. Kahn (pro hac vice)
` MAURIEL KAPOUYTIAN WOODS LLP
`15 West 26th Street, Floor 7
`New York, NY 10010
`Telephone: (212) 529-5131
`Facsimile:
`(212) 529-5132
`E-mail:
`mmauriel@mkwllp.com
` skahn@mkwllp.com
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` Attorneys for Patent Owner
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`Dated: December 23, 2015.
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.6, I hereby certify that on this 23rd day of
`December 2015, the foregoing Patent Owner Aplix IP Holdings Corporation’s
`Motion for Observation is being served via email on the following counsel of
`record for petitioner.
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`Lead Counsel
`Eric A. Buresh (Reg. No. 50,394)
`Eric.buresh@eriseip.com
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`Postal and Hand-Delivery Address:
`ERISE IP, P.A.
`6201 College Blvd., Suite 300
`Overland Park, Kansas 66211
`Telephone: (913) 777-5600
`Fax: (913) 777-5601
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`Back-Up Counsel
`Abran J. Kean (Reg. No. 58,540)
`Abran.kean@eriseip.com
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`Postal and Hand-Delivery Address:
`ERISE IP, P.A.
`5600 Greenwood Plaza Blvd., Suite
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`Greenwood Village, Colorado 80111
`Telephone: (913) 777-5600
`Fax: (913) 777-5601
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`_____/Sybil L. Dunlop/_________________________
`Robert J. Gilbertson (pro hac vice)
`Sybil L. Dunlop (pro hac vice)
`X. Kevin Zhao (pro hac vice)
`GREENE ESPEL PLLP
`222 South Ninth Street, Suite 2200
`Minneapolis, MN 55402
`Telephone: (612) 373-0830
`Facsimile: (612) 373-0929
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`Counsel for Patent Owner Aplix IP Holdings
`Corporation
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`Dated: December 23, 2015.
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