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`571.272.7822
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`Paper No. 29
`Filed: February 9, 2016
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`_______________
`
`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
`_______________
`
`E*TRADE FINANCIAL CORPORATION,
`E*TRADE SECURITIES, LLC, E*TRADE BANK,
`SCOTTRADE, INC., SCOTTRADE FINANCIAL SERVICES, INC.,
`TD AMERITRADE HOLDING CORPORATION, and
`TD AMERITRADE, INC.,
`Petitioner,
`
`v.
`DROPLETS, INC.,
`Patent Owner.
`_______________
`
`Case IPR2015-00470
`Patent 8,402,115 B2
`_______________
`
`
`
`Before LINDA M. GAUDETTE, MICHAEL R. ZECHER, and
`SCOTT A. DANIELS, Administrative Patent Judges.
`
`GAUDETTE, Administrative Patent Judge.
`
`
`
`ORDER
`Trial Hearing
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
`
`
`
`

`
`IPR2015-00470
`Patent 8,402,115 B2
`
`
`
`Patent Owner and Petitioner filed requests for oral argument. Papers
`27 and 28, respectively.
`Oral argument will commence at 9:00 am Eastern Time on March 15,
`2016, on the ninth floor of Madison Building East, 600 Dulany Street,
`Alexandria, Virginia. Petitioner has requested “no more than one hour per
`side of oral argument.” Paper 28, 1. Patent Owner did not request a specific
`time period for oral argument. See Paper 27. Accordingly, each party is
`allotted one hour of total argument time. Petitioner will open the hearing by
`presenting its arguments regarding the challenged claims for which the
`Board instituted trial. Patent Owner will then respond to Petitioner’s
`arguments. Petitioner may reserve time for rebuttal arguments. Patent
`Owner may not reserve rebuttal time. Petitioner bears the ultimate burden of
`proof that Patent Owner’s patented claims are unpatentable. 35 U.S.C.
`§ 316(e).
`The Board will provide a court reporter for the hearing, and the
`reporter’s transcript will constitute the official record of the hearing. The
`hearing will be open to the public via in-person attendance on a first-come,
`first-served basis.
`Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b), demonstrative exhibits must be served at
`least five business days before the hearing and filed no later than the time of
`the hearing. The Board requests that such exhibits be filed at least five
`business days before the hearing to facilitate the panel’s preparation. The
`parties are directed to St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Division, Inc. v. The
`Board of Regents of the University of Michigan, IPR2013-00041, Paper 65
`
`
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`

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`IPR2015-00470
`Patent 8,402,115 B2
`
`
`
`(PTAB Jan. 27, 2014), for guidance regarding the appropriate content of
`demonstrative exhibits.
`The parties must file any objections to the demonstratives with the
`Board at least two business days before the hearing. Any objection to
`demonstrative exhibits that is not presented timely will be considered
`waived. The objections should identify with particularity which
`demonstratives are subject to objection, and include a short (one sentence or
`less) statement of the reason for each objection. No argument or further
`explanation is permitted. The Board will consider the objections and
`schedule a conference if deemed necessary. Otherwise, the Board will
`reserve ruling on the objections until after the oral argument. The Board
`asks the parties to confine demonstrative exhibit objections to those
`identifying egregious violations that are prejudicial to the administration of
`justice.
`Two members of the panel hearing this case will attend the hearing
`remotely, by video and audio link. The parties are reminded that, during the
`hearing, the presenter must identify clearly and specifically each
`demonstrative exhibit referenced (e.g., by slide or screen number) to ensure
`the clarity and accuracy of the reporter’s transcript, and to ensure that the
`remote judges can follow the argument even if the video connection is
`disrupted. The parties are requested to speak directly into the microphone,
`including during initial introduction of counsel.
`The Board expects lead counsel for each party to be present in person
`at the hearing. If a party anticipates that its lead counsel will not be
`attending the oral argument, the parties should initiate a joint telephone
`
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`IPR2015-00470
`Patent 8,402,115 B2
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`
`
`conference with the Board no later than two business days prior to the oral
`hearing to discuss the matter. Any counsel of record, however, may present
`the party’s argument. A party’s argument may be divided, but interruptions
`for change of counsel should be kept to a minimum.
`Patent Owner has requested that the Board provide audio-visual
`equipment for the presentation and display of demonstrative exhibits. Paper
`27, 1. Requests for special equipment will not be honored unless presented
`in a separate communication directed to Trials@uspto.gov not less than five
`days before the hearing. If the request is not received timely, the equipment
`may not be available on the day of the hearing.
`Accordingly, it is
`ORDERED that oral argument for this proceeding shall take place
`beginning at 9:00 am Eastern Time on March 15, 2016, on the ninth floor of
`Madison Building East, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria, Virginia.
`
`
`
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`
`

`
`IPR2015-00470
`Patent 8,402,115 B2
`
`
`
`PETITIONER:
`
`Michael T. Rosato
`Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati
`mrosato@wsgr.com
`
`Matthew A. Argenti
`Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati
`brange@wsgr.com
`
`
`
`
`PATENT OWNER:
`
`Timothy J. Bechen
`Bechen, PLLC
`tim@bechenlaw.com
`
`Charles Allen
`Goodman, Allan & Filetti
`callen@goodmanallen.com
`
`Matthew Osenga
`Goodman, Allan & Filetti
`mosenga@goodmanallen.com
`
`
`
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