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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`APPLE, INC.
`Petitioners,
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`DSS TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT, INC.
`Patent Owner
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`Case: IPR2015-00369
`U.S. Patent No. 6,128,290
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`PATENT OWNER DSS TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT, INC.’S
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`MOTION FOR OBSERVATION REGARDING CROSS-EXAMINATION
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`OF APPLE, INC.’S TECHNICAL EXPERT, DR. HU
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`TABLE OF ABBREVIATIONS
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`Abbreviation
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`Explanation
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`‘290 Patent
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`U.S. Patent No. 6,128,290 (Ex. 1001)
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`Natarajan
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`U.S. Patent No. 5,241,542 (Ex. 1003)
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`Neve
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`Ex.
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`U.S. Patent No. 4,887,266 (Ex. 1004)
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`This refers to the indicated exhibit
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`This refers to the indicated column or page and
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`lines of the patent, patent publication or deposition
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`transcript
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`POSA
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`Person of ordinary skill in the art
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`Schwartz
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`Mischa Schwartz, Telecommunications Networks: Protocols,
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`Modeling and Analysis, Addison-Wesley, 1988 (Ex. 1012)
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`Pursuant to the Joint Stipulation to Modify Due Dates 4 and 5 in this
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`proceeding (Paper 25), and the Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, 77 Fed. Reg.
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`48,756, 48,768 (Aug. 14, 2012), DSS Technology Management, Inc., (“Patent
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`Owner”), respectfully brings this Motion for Observation Regarding Cross-
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`Examination of Apple, Inc.'s (“Petitioner”) Technical Expert, Dr. Jing Hu. Patent
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`Owner submits the following observations regarding Dr. Hu’s testimony during her
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`deposition on February 17, 2016 (Ex. 2018).
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`Observation #1
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`In Ex. 2018, from 61:14 to 74:6, Dr. Hu refused to provide specific citations
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`to support her conclusion that the combination of Natarajan and Neve expressly
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`teaches a server transmitter energized in low-duty cycle RF bursts. Dr. Hu testified
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`that she understood “expressly” to mean “the concept or the mechanism is taught in
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`exact words as the ‘290 patent or in words and phrases that mean the exact tech- --
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`that have the same technical meaning to a person of ordinary skill in the art.” Id. at
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`62:14-19. When subsequently asked to identify the sections of Natarajan and Neve
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`that expressly disclose a server transmitter energized in low-duty cycle RF bursts,
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`Dr. Hu repeatedly testified that the support is provided in paragraphs 42, 43, and the
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`next 20 or 30 pages of her declaration. See id. 63:10-74:6. This testimony is relevant
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`because Dr. Hu was unable to provide specific support for her conclusion that the
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`combination of Natarajan and Neve expressly teaches a server transmitter energized
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`in low-duty cycle RF bursts in accordance with her understanding of the term
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`“expressly.”
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`Observation #2
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`In Ex. 2018, at 98:16-22, Dr. Hu read a portion of her declaration, stating,
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`“Mr. Dezmelyk's lack of understanding of HDLC is further highlighted by his
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`assertion that systems using idle words can have, for example, ten consecutive 1's.
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`(Dezmelyk Depo at 98:1-13.) HDLC cannot have more than six consecutive 1's,
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`otherwise an error is declared. (Schwartz, page 22 135-136.)” When Dr. Hu was
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`subsequently asked if “it’s possible for an HDLC protocol to have a continuous
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`string of 1’s,” Dr. Hu testified that some point-to-multipoint systems, operating in
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`an HDLC protocol, may transmit invalid strings of 1’s (more than 6 consecutive 1’s)
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`to fill the inter-frame time. Id. at 115:8-116:13; see also 110:22-111:7 (“A person of
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`ordinary skill in the art at the time frame looking at this particular paragraph would
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`understand that by using invalid data packets of logical -- of continuous 1’s in HDLC
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`could be a mechanism that’s suitable”). This testimony is relevant because it
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`contradicts Dr. Hu’s attempt to discredit Mr. Dezmelyk’s based on his assertion that
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`HDLC systems may employ idle words having more than six consecutive 1’s.
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`Observation #3
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`In Ex. 2018, at 120:16-121:2, Dr. Hu testified, “One of ordinary skill in the
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`art at the time frame of '96 and '97 would understand that [the] number [of
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`consecutive 1’s] is system-specific. It will be a number that is agreed upon -- agreed
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`upon by all units or all stations involved in the system or dictated by the central
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`station that will signal that number to the rest of the system so everybody involved
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`in the communication system has a consistent understanding of what constitutes the
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`idle word.” This testimony is relevant because it directly contradicts Dr. Hu’s
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`attempt at discrediting Mr. Dezmelyk’s assertion that systems using idle words can
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`have, for example, ten consecutive 1's. Id. at 98:16-19; see also 1014 at pg. 35, ¶ 74.
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`Observation #4
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`In Ex. 2018, at 95:18-21, Dr. Hu testified, “I think in general usage of HDLC,
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`outside of Natarajan, it's possible for an idle word to be transmitted using the HDLC
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`protocol sporadically.” This testimony is relevant because it directly contradicts Dr.
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`Hu’s testimony, in Ex. 1014 at pg. 35, ¶ 75, that “a POSA would understand that
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`HDLC does not use idle words.” See also pg. 34, ¶ 72.
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`Observation #5
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`In Ex. 2018, at 114:22 to 115:1, Dr. Hu testified, “sending invalid 1 bits may
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`not to be in all the start/stop transmission design. Whether it’s required will be based
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`on the application and the system design itself.” This testimony is relevant because
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`it explains that the transmission of idle words may be useful depending on the
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`application and the design of the system, which contradicts Dr. Hu’s testimony, in
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`Ex. 1014 at pg. 34, ¶ 73, that “the use of continuous idle words in Natarajan, which
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`DSS asserts would assist with synchronization, would be pointless in HDLC . . . .
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`[because] HDLC has its own mechanism–start/stop flags–for synchronization.”
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`Observation #6
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`In Ex. 2018, at 129:21-22, Dr. Hu testified, “The transceiver will stay on for
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`that time slot.” See also 129:15-17 (“when it is transmitted, the transmitter and
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`receiver will stay on for the duration of the transmission in that time slot.”) This
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`testimony is relevant because it directly contradicts the declaration of the inventor,
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`Philip P. Carvey, as provided in Apple Inc.’s Responsive Claim Construction Brief
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`in DSS Technology Management, Inc. v. Lenovo (United States), Inc., No. 6:13-cv-
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`00919-JDL (E.D. Tex.), in which Mr. Carvey averred in paragraph 7 that
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`“transceiver elements are energized for a small fraction of the time slot.”
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`Observation #7
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`In Ex. 2018, at 147:5-9, Dr. Hu testified, “The low-duty cycle – the duty cycle
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`is calculated over a cycle of communication that will include subframes A, B and C,
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`as well as over time the -- how transmitter and receiver work in those cycles.” This
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`testimony is relevant because it contradicts the declaration of Dr. Hu as provided in
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`Apple Inc.’s Responsive Claim Construction Brief in DSS Technology Management,
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`Inc. v. Lenovo (United States), Inc., No. 6:13-cv-00919-JDL (E.D. Tex.), in which
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`Dr. Hu opined in paragraph 28 that “each frame [of the ‘290 patent] is divided into
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`‘sectors’ (or ‘sections’), which include 64 time slots. ‘290 patent at 7: 20-33. A
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`maximum of three RF bursts can be assigned per sector . . . And the position of each
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`burst is dictated by a one . . . . Because the number of slots when a unit’s transmitter
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`is depowered is substantially greater than the number of slots when the unit’s
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`transmitter is energized, the unit is said to have a low duty cycle.”
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`Date: February 22, 2016
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`SMITH & HOPEN, PA
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`/Nicholas Pfeifer /
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`Nicholas Pfeifer
` Back-Up Counsel for Patent Owner
`Registration No. 70,568
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`180 Pine Avenue North
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`Tel: 813-925-8505
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`Email: andriy.lytvyn@smithhopen.com
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`The undersigned hereby certifies that, in accordance with 37 C.F.R. §
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`42.6(e), the above Preliminary Response of the Patent Owner and a copy of the
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`Exhibits were served via electronic mail on March 30, 2015, in their entirety upon
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`the following:
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`David K.S. Cornwell, Lead Counsel for Petitioner
`davidc-PTAB@skgf.com
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`Mark W. Rygiel, Back-Up Counsel for Petitioner
`mrygiel-PTAB@skgf.com
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`Date: February 22, 2016
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`/Nicholas Pfeifer /
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`Nicholas Pfeifer
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`Registration No. 70,568
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`SMITH & HOPEN, P.A.
`180 Pine Avenue North
`Oldsmar, FL 34677
`(813) 925-8505
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