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`PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`QUALCOMM INC.,
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`Inter Partes Review
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`Petitioner
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`Trial Number: IPR2015-003151
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`BANDSPEED, INC.
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`Patent Owner
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`SUPPLEMENTAL DECLARATION OF DR. ZHI DING
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`IN SUPPORT OF PETITIONER'S REPLY
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`TO PATENT OWNER'S RESPONSE UNDER 37 C.F.R. § 42.120
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`1 Case IPR20 15-01580 has been joined with this proceeding.
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`Qualcomm Inc.
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`I, Dr. Zhi Ding, hereby declare as follows:
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`1. I have been retained by Qualcomm Inc. to provide testimony for this
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`my to supplement inter partes review proceeding. This testimony is intended
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`original declaration in these proceeding.
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`21, dated January 2. I have reviewed the Patent Owner's Response,
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`2016, and its accompanying exhibit, the declaration of Dr. Jose Melendez.
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`Level of Ordinary Skill
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`skill in the art 3. In my prior declaration, I stated that one of ordinary
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`equivalent field, as well as at least 3-5 years of academic or industry experience in
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`the communications field.
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`art skill in the relevant 4. Dr. Melendez states that "a person of ordinary
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`of the '624 Patent in the relevant time period would have had a Bachelor of
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`Science degree in Electrical or Computer Engineering or Computer Science and/or
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`equivalent industrial work experience."
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`skill in the 5. I do not agree with Dr. Melendez that a person of ordinary
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`art would have a Bachelor of Science degree without the need for experience in the
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`communications field. Nevertheless, even adopting Dr. Melendez's definition of
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`one of ordinary skill in the art, my previous testimony remains unchanged and it is
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`still my opinion that the prior art references disclosed in the petition render the
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`challenged claims of the '624 patent obvious.
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`asserts that the 6. The Patent Owner's Response and Dr. Melendez
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`Patent Trial and Appeal Board's ("PT AB") interpretation of "vote to use the
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`particular communications channel" is unreasonably broad. Various portions of
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`the '624 specification are cited which indicate that, in some embodiments, votes
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`I would note, however, that the language of the '624
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`specification regarding these examples explicitly states that the embodiments are
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`exemplary in nature. A person of ordinary skill in the art reading the '624 patent
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`would understand that the cited examples from the specification are not necessarily
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`limiting on the claims and that the claimed votes could come from various devices
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`other than participants.
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`7. It is further noted that the claims do not require that a "mobile station"
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`master or slave devices, nor do they require that votes come from a slave to a
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`master. The claims only require that a "channel" receives votes. In my previous
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`testimony, I noted that the base station (which would actually be a "participant" in
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`the network) of Cuffaro compiles information and assigns tallies (i.e., votes) to
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`tracks data and voting, is implemented a master device; this is similar to how
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`Cuffaro is implemented on a base station. Cuffaro' s disclosure is sufficient to
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`meet the claimed voting to use the particular communications channel.
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`Anticipation by Gerten
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`8. The Patent Owner and Dr. Melendez state that Gerten does not
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`disclose any device "capable of maintaining a master synchronized with more than
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`one slave in a given piconet where the master and a slave are using a default set of
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`channels while the same master and a different slave are using different subsets of
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`channels (having eliminated channels), changing subsets of channels over time."
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`Ex. 2001 at�� 34, 35. These arguments are incorrect, and they also argue concepts
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`that are not limitations of the claims (e.g., the claims do not specify piconets, they
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`do not limit the master/slave relationships, nor do they require that this limitation
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`applies to a single piconet only).
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`in which a device can 9. Gerten teaches multiple embodiments
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`communicate over an adaptive hopping sequence with one device while
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`communicating over a normal sequence with another device. One embodiment
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`was discussed in my previous declaration at, e.g., paragraphs 45 and 60-65. In
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`Figure 3 of Gerten, the master unit performs a discovery process (block 1 1 0) upon
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`connecting with a new slave unit. If the slave unit is capable of using interference
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`channels for use (block 120). When a second slave unit enters the piconet, if it is
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`uses normal/default frequency hopping for that second slave (block 1 15).
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`10. Patent Owner takes the stance that, under Gerten, when such a second
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`According to Patent Owner, the master is
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`legacy setting for communicating with the second slave. Gerten contains no such
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`teaching, nor would a person of ordinary skill in the art read such a requirement
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`Gerten discloses that its "process can be applied to a Bluetooth example and
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`includes identification of a Bluetooth device's ability to support interference
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`avoidance, . . . [and] a method of modifying the Bluetooth hop sequence so that it
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`will avoid channels containing strong or fixed interferers while still supporting
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`where mobile unit 22 acts as a 1 1. Gerten teaches another embodiment
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`circumstance, based on the teachings of Gerten, when mobile unit 22 is acting as a
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`communicating with another participant via an adaptive hopping sequence.
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`functionality would meet each limitation of the present claim.
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`13. In this second embodiment, all master/slave communications within a
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`unsynchronized.
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`incorrect argument (Ex. 2001 at�� 33-34) asserting that Gerten would require that
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`all master-slave communications within a piconet to communicate over the same
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`Obviousness over Gerten in view of Coffaro
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`that a "specified" number of 14. When discussing the limitation requiring
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`votes be received to select a channel, Patent Owner states that a person of ordinary
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`skill in the art would not be able to resolve the situation where multiple channels
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`receive the same specified number of votes. It is noted that this theory is not
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`supported by Dr. Melendez. One of skill in the art would understand that such
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`situation only means that there is a non-unique selection when selecting a channel.
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`One of skill in the art would understand that the case of having more frequencies
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`This circumstance is also possible under Cuffaro's usage of a "maximum" number
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`based on a "maximum" number of votes would find it obvious to select a
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`channel. Such selections of vote levels reflect threshold levels of quality for a
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`fields, address different problems, would not be seen as analogous art, and could
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`therefore not be combined. I disagree. A person of ordinary skill in the art
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`designing the system of Gerten, which monitors interference on communication
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`channels in order to select particular frequencies to use in a hopping sequence,
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`systems that monitor and select channels for the same purposes.
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`itself states that its invention can be applied to different types of networks.
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`18. Patent Owner made similar
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`communicating over a default set of channels.
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`declaration, a person of ordinary skill in the art would understand that block 126 in
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`Gendel is provided to support legacy communication systems, such as systems that
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`Therefore one of skill in the art would find it obvious to configure Gendel such that
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`20. Patent Owner argues that block 126 of Gendel could be utilized to
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`and therefore Gendel does not necessarily require that a default hopping sequence
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`communications over a default sequence, rather one of skill in the art would have
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`2 1. Patent Owner and Dr. Melendez assert that Gendel and Haartsen
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`argument is that even though both references teach tnethods to select/deselect
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`person of ordinary skill in the art would not look to the solutions provided in these
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`references, because Gendel works with segments of frequencies whereas Haartsen
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`from 22. One of skill in the art could easily derive and apply knowledge
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`Both references address the same problems and implements
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`solutions in substantially the same manner. Merely changing the granularity of the
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`of Gendel and combination 23. Patent Owner also states that the proposed
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`Haartsen is improper, because it would change the principle of operation of
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`Gendel. This argument misconstrues the rationale for combining references as
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`provided in paragraph 131 of my declaration. The proposed combination does not
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`require an actual physical combination of devices. Rather, the proposed
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`combination notes that various conceptual teachings are common between
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`references and one of skill in the art would understand that certain concepts could
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`made herein of my own 24. I hereby declare that all statements
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`knowledge are true and that all statements made on information and belief are
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`believed to be true; and further that these statements were made with the
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`knowledge that willful false statements and the like so made are punishable by fine
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`or imprisonment, or �oth, under Section
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