`By:
`Joseph E. Palys (josephpalys@paulhastings.com)
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`Naveen Modi (naveenmodi@paulhastings.com)
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`Daniel Zeilberger (danielzeilberger@paulhastings.com)
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`Paul Hastings LLP
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`CORELOGIC, INC.
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`Petitioner
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`v.
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`BOUNDARY SOLUTIONS, INC.
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`Patent Owner
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`Case No. IPR2015-00222
`Patent No. 8,065,352
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`PETITIONER’S MOTION TO EXCLUDE
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`Table of Contents
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`Precise Relief Requested ................................................................................. 1
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`Legal Standard ................................................................................................. 1
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`III. Mr. Huxhold’s Redirect Testimony Regarding Claim Interpretations
`Should be Excluded ......................................................................................... 1
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`IV. Conclusion ....................................................................................................... 3
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`Board Cases
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`TABLE OF AUTHORITIES
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`Universal Remote Control, Inc. v. Universal Electronics, Inc.,
`IPR2014-01146, Paper 36 (Dec. 10, 2015) ............................................................................1, 2
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`Federal Regulations
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`37 C.F.R. § 42.62(a).........................................................................................................................1
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`37 C.F.R. § 42.64 .............................................................................................................................1
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`Federal Rule of Evidence 611(c) .................................................................................................1, 3
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`Other
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`Office Patent Trial Practice Guide,
`77 Fed. Reg. 48758 ....................................................................................................................1
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`Precise Relief Requested
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.64, Petitioner CoreLogic, Inc. (“Petitioner”)
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`moves to exclude certain portions of the testimony of Patent Owner’s expert,
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`William Huxhold. This motion is timely filed in accordance with the Board’s
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`Scheduling Order (Paper 8) and the parties’ Notice of Stipulation Regarding Due
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`Date 4 (Paper 33). In particular, Petitioner requests the redirect testimony of Mr.
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`Huxhold in Exhibit 1034 at 150:6-153:8 be excluded from the record.
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`II. Legal Standard
`The Federal Rules of Evidence apply to inter partes review proceedings. 37
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`C.F.R. § 42.62(a), Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, 77 Fed. Reg. 48758. Under
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`Federal Rule of Evidence 611(c), “[l]eading questions should not be used on direct
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`examination except as necessary to develop the witness’s testimony.” Fed. R.
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`Evid. 611(c). A question that suggests to the witness the answer is leading.
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`Universal Remote Control, Inc. v. Universal Electronics, Inc., IPR2014-01146,
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`Paper 36 at 6 (Dec. 10, 2015). In addition to the content of a question, the “tone of
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`voice employed, and the body language or conduct of counsel” may be considered
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`in determining whether a question is leading. Id. at 7.
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`III. Mr. Huxhold’s Redirect Testimony Should be Excluded
`During cross-examination, Mr. Huxhold answered without qualification that
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`“the jurisdictional identifier that’s recited in the claims of the patents is limited to a
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`county FIPS number.” (Ex. 1034 at 72:5-13.) He also acknowledged that this is
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`the understanding he “applied in [his] analysis to support [his] opinions in [his]
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`declarations for these matters” because “[t]hat’s what makes the patents unique is
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`the use of the FIPS number for managing the data.” (Id. at 72:14-22.)
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`During redirect, counsel for Patent Owner asked questions relating to Mr.
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`Huxhold’s testimony above. (Id. at 150:6-153:8.) The questions were phrased to
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`elicit either a “yes” or “no” answer, and contained contextual cues sufficient to
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`suggest the answer that counsel desired to elicit. (Id.) In fact, Mr. Huxhold either
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`responded with a “yes” or parroted the question in his answers. (Id. at 152:17,
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`152:152:7-19.) In one instance, Patent Owner’s counsel elicited Mr. Huxhold’s
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`testimony through voice inflection to emphasize the desired response. (Id. at
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`152:7-19.)
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`This testimony should be excluded because it was in response to leading
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`questions presented by Patent Owner’s counsel in an attempt to hide Mr.
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`Huxhold’s acknowledgements that undermine his and Patent Owner’s reasons for
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`distinguishing the challenged claims from the prior art at issue in this proceeding.
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`Indeed, similar to the testimony at issue in Universal Remote Control, the overall
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`context of the questions shows that Patent Owner’s counsel was leading Mr.
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`Huxhold and the Board should exclude this testimony. Universal Remote Control,
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`Paper 36 at 7. In Universal, the Board excluded similar testimony despite not
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`having an “opportunity to observe any non-verbal cues such as tone of voice.” Id.
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`But here, the testimony shows that Patent Owner’s counsel used such cues to elicit
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`desired testimony from Mr. Huxhold. (Ex. 1034 at 152:7-19 (showing how Mr.
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`Huxhold inferred from counsel’s question and voice inflection what counsel
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`wanted him to say (“Oh, the claims?”).)1
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`Although Patent Owner has not yet relied on this testimony, Petitioner
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`expects Patent Owner to rely on this testimony at the hearing. But as explained
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`above, this testimony should be excluded as it was elicited using improper leading
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`questions. Fed. R. Evid. 611(c).
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`IV. Conclusion
`For the reasons set forth above, the Board should exclude Mr. Huxhold’s
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`redirect testimony in Ex. 1034 at 150:14-153:8.
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`1 Mr. Huxhold’s redirect testimony is further suspect when considered in context of
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`his conduct during cross-examination, where he spoke with counsel about the
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`substance of his testimony despite being aware that such conduct was forbidden,
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`and referred to counsel’s laptop and the real time feed of his testimony during
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`examination. (Ex. 1034 at 46:1-47:13, 73:12-20, 78:22-79:2.)
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`Dated: January 14, 2016
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`By: /Joseph E. Palys/
`Joseph E. Palys
`Reg. No. 46,508
`Counsel for Petitioner
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`I hereby certify that on this 14th day of January, 2016, a copy of the
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`foregoing Petitioner’s Motion to Exclude was served electronically, pursuant to
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`agreement, upon the following:
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`Lawrence Edelman
`The Law Office of Lawrence Edelman
`130 San Aleso Avenue
`San Francisco, CA 94127
`lawrence.edelman@comcast.net
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`Bruce J. Wecker
`Hausfeld LLP
`600 Montgomery, Suite 3200
`San Francisco, CA 94111
`bwecker@hausfeld.com
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`By: /Joseph E. Palys/
`Joseph E. Palys.
`Reg. No. 46,508
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`Counsel for Petitioner
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`Dated: January 14, 2016