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IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`
`In re PATENT APPLICATION OF:
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`Attorney Docket:
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`2655-0185
`
`NetZPhone, Inc. (Patent No. 6,009,469)
`
`Group Art Unit:
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`3992
`
`Control No:
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`90f010,422
`
`Examiner: KOSOWSKI, Alexander
`
`Issue Date: December 28, I999
`Title: GRAPHIC USER INTERFACE FOR
`INTERNET TELEPHONY APPLICATION
`
`Confirmation No.:
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`6565
`
`SECOND DECLARATION OF KETAN MAYER—PATEL UNDER 37 C.F.R. l.l32
`
`I-lon. Commissioner ofPatents
`PO. Box 1450
`
`Alexandria, VA 22313—1450
`
`1. INTRODUCTION
`
`1.
`
`I am the same Ketan Mayer-Patel that filed a Declaration in response to the first Office
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`Action in the re-examinati on of US. Patent No. 6,009,469 (hereinailer “the ‘469 patent").
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`2.
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`3.
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`I have reviewed the outstanding Office Action dated May 10, 2010.
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`I understand that claims 8, 9, and 14-18 were alleged to be obvious over the combination
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`ofNetBIOS and Pinard (US. Patent No. 5,533,110), either alone or in combination with the
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`VocalChat User’s Guide, and claims 8, 9, and 14-18 were alleged to be obvious over the
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`combination of the Etherphone papers in view of Pinard, either alone or in combination with the
`VocalChat User‘s Guide.
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`4.
`
`I understand that in resp0nse to evidence presented in my first Declaration the Office
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`Action now alleges “under a broadest reasonable interpretation, this [accessible] limitation could
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`simply mean that a user is registered with the system." As this argument was not presented in
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`the first Office Action, I was not able to know that such a position needed to be addressed.
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`5.
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`I do not believe that one of ordinary skill in the art at the time the invention was made
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`would have believed that the definitions proposed by the Office Action are proper -- even under
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`a “broadest reasonable interpretation” standard.
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`Page 1 of 9
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`LG Electronics Exhibit 1028
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`Page 1 of 9
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`LG Electronics Exhibit 1028
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`

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`Re-Examination of Patent No. 6,009,469
`Control No.: 90/010,422
`Filed:
`February 24, 2009
`Second Declaration of Ketan Mayer-Patel under 37 CPR 1.132
`
`6.
`
`The dictionary definitions of“accessible” and “registered” show that they are not
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`synonymous with each other. See Exhibit 1 attached hereto. According to the definitions, a
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`system such as NetBlOS would indicate whether a name is “registered” (e.g., recorded or listed),
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`but it would not indicate that a eallee process is accessible (e.g., easy to reach or use or easily
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`approached or entered).
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`7.
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`Accordingly, I do not agree that “under a broadest reasonable interpretation, this
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`[accessible] limitation could simply mean that a user is registered with the system.”
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`8.
`
`In fact, NetBlOS explicitly provides for permanent registration of names. As described
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`in Section 15.1.3.2 of RFC 1001, “Names held by an NBNS are given a lifetime during name
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`registration.” The same section further states “The lifetime period is established through a simple
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`negotiation mechanism during name registration: [n the name registration request, the end-node
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`proposes a lifetime value or requests an infinite lifetime. The NBNS places an actual lifetime
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`value into the name registration response. The NBNS is always allowed to respond with an
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`infinite actual period." (Emphasis added.) Thus, in any number of cases, the NBNS may
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`demand an infinite lifetime for names registered by nodes, with the effect that the NBNS would
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`deliberately preserve the name and address information registered by a node permanently on the
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`NBNS even weeks, months or years after the node had stopped using the name or had gone off-
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`line altogether. Therefore, the correspondence between a name and an IP address is not
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`indicative that a first callee process is accessible.
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`9.
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`Moreover, the node requesting information on whether a name is registered does not
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`receive an indication from the NBNS that the registered name corresponds to a name that has
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`been given an infinite lifetime and could therefore be completely out-of-date. Section 4.2.13 of
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`RFC 1002 describes the Positive Name Query Response (reproduced below) that is returned
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`when a name has been registered. and there is no indication that the returned address is for a
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`name associated with an identified lifetime, let alone an infinite lifetime.
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`

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`ation of Patent No. 6,009,469
`.: 90/010,422
`
`February 24, 2009
`Second Declaration of Ketan Mayer-Patel under 37 C.F.R. 1.132
`
`Rc-Examin
`Control No
`Filed:
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`42
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`10.
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`In addition, there is no indication in the Positive Name Query Response disclosed by
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`NetBIOS that the returned address necessarily corresponds with a computer or process that was
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`ever accessible as asserted by the pending ofiice action. For example, a first user could manually
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`enter a dummy address in the NB_Address field associated with a claimed name that he wanted
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`to register and still be compliant with the NetBlOS protocol standard since queries by other users
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`for that name are “not necessarily a prelude to NetBIOS session establishment or NetBlOS
`
`datagram transmission.” Section 15.3.1.
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`11.
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`Furthermore, RFC 1002 further shows that a name registration is not an indication of
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`whether a first callee process is accessible since a NBNS can refuse to release registered names
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`for policy reasons. As described in Section 4.2.9, a node may request that a name be released
`
`using a Name Release Request (reproduced below).
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`Page 3 of 9
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`

`

`lie—Examination of Patent No. 6,009,469
`Control No: 90x’010,422
`Filed:
`February 24, 2009
`Second Declaration ofKetan Mayer-Patel under 37 C.F.R. 1.132
`
`4.2.9‘
`
`NAME RELEASE REQUEST & SEMEND
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`12.
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`In response, as shown in Section 4.2.11, a server can generate a Negative Name Release
`
`Response, as shown below.
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`

`

`Re-Examinalion of Patent No. 6,009,469
`Control No.: 90/010,422
`Filed:
`February 24, 2009
`Second Declaration of Ketan Mayer—Patel under 37 C.F.R. 1.132
`
`4.2.31.
`
`NEGATIVE NAME RELEASE RESPONSE
`
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`The RCODE field indicates the response from the server. One such response is RFS_ERR which
`
`is described as follows:
`
`RFS_ERR
`
`0x5
`
`For policy reasons server
`Refused error.
`will not release this name from this host.
`
`13.
`
`Thus, the registration of a name does not indicate that NetBIOS discloses that a “first
`
`callee process is accessible.”
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`

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`Re-Examination of Patent No. 6,009,469
`Control No.: 90/010,422
`Filed:
`February 24, 2009
`Second Declaration of Ketan Mayer-Patel under 37 C.F.R. 1.132
`
`14.
`
`I hereby declare that all statements made herein of my own knowledge are true and that
`
`all statements made on information and belief are believed to be true; and further that these
`
`statements were made with the knowledge that willful false statements and the like so made are
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`punishable by fine or imprisonment, or both, under Section 1001 of Title 18 of the United States
`
`Code and that such willful false statements may jeopardize the validity of the application or any
`
`patent issued thereon.
`
`Dated:
`
`July 12, 2010
`
`Ketan Mayer-Patel, PhD.
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`EXHIBIT 1
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`Page 7 of 9
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`ac-ces-si-ble [ak—ses—uh-buhl]
`
`..
`—adj cctivc
`1. easy to approach, reach, enter, speak with, or use.
`2. that can be used, entered, reached, etc.: an accessible road; accessible ruins.
`3. obtainable; attainable; accessible evidence.
`
`4. open to the influence of (usually fol. by to): accessible to bribery.
`Dictionary.com Unabridged
`Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2010.
`
`ac‘ccs-si-blc
`adj.
`
`(ak-sés'o-bal)
`
`1.
`2.
`3.
`4.
`
`Easily approached or entered.
`Easily obtained: accessible money.
`Easy to talk to or get along with: an accessible manager.
`Easily swayed or influenced: accessible to flattery.
`
`aeccs'si'bil'i'ty , ac-ces'si'ble-ness n. , ac-ees'si‘bly adv.
`The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
`Copyright © 2009 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
`Published by Houghlon Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
`
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`registered [rej-uh-sterd]
`—adjective
`1. recorded, as in a register or book; enrolled.
`2. Commerce . officially listing the owner's name with the issuing corporation and suitably
`inscribing the certificate, as with bonds to evidence title. Abbreviation: r
`3. officially or legally certified by a government officer or board: a registered patent.
`4. denoting cattle, horses, dogs, etc., having pedigrees verified and filed by authorized
`associations of breeders.
`
`dictionarycom
`
`registered (rej'i-stord)
`adj.
`
`Having the owner's name listed in a rcgistcr: registered bonds.
`1,
`Having the pedigree recorded and verified by an authorized association of breeders: a
`2.
`registered golden retriever.
`3.
`Officially qualified or certified: a registered pharmacist.
`
`The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
`Copyright © 2009 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
`Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
`
`registered
`Main Entry:
`Part of Speech:
`adjective
`Definition:
`recorded
`
`Synonyms:
`
`cataloged, certified, enrolled
`
`Main Entry:
`Part of Speech:
`Definition:
`Synonyms:
`
`registered
`adjective
`pedigreed
`blooded, full-blooded, pure-blooded, purebred, thoroughbred
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