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UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`CISCO SYSTEMS, INC.,
`QUANTUM CORPORATION,
`and ORACLE CORPORATION
`Petitioners
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`v.
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`CROSSROADS SYSTEMS, INC.,
`Patent Owner
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`Case IPR2014-014631
`Patent 7,934,041 B2
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`PATENT OWNER’S REQUEST FOR
`ORAL ARGUMENT
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`1 Case IPR2015-00854 has been joined with this proceeding.
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`I.
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`Request for Argument and Specified Issues
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`Patent Owner respectfully requests oral argument on the currently
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`scheduled date of October 30, 2015 to address the following issues:
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`(i)
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`The appropriate construction of the claims, including terms related
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`to the “map” and “control[ling] access;
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`(ii) Petitioners have failed to show by a preponderance of the evidence
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`the unpatentability of any challenged claim on the grounds upon
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`which trial has been instituted, specifically:
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`a. Claims 1–14, 16–33, 35–50, and 53 under 35 U.S.C. § 103(a) for
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`obviousness over CRD-5500 Manual and HP Journal; and
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`b. Claims 15, 34, 51, and 52 under 35 U.S.C. § 103(a) for
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`obviousness over CRD-5500 Manual, HP Journal, and Fibre
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`Channel Standard;
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`(iii) Objective evidence of non-obviousness shows that the challenged
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`claims are not unpatentable;
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`(iv) Petitioners’ and Patent Owner’s respective motions to exclude,
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`responses, and replies;
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`(v) All other issues raised in any papers filed in this proceeding to the
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`extent relevant to the Board’s determination of patentability.
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`Patent Owner requests permission to use audio/visual equipment to display
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`demonstrative exhibits, including a projector and screen for presentation of
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`slides.
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`II. Proposed Structure for Oral Arguments in All Related Proceedings
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`Patent Owner proposes two alternatives for the Board’s consideration.
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`First Proposal: All CRD-5500 Related Grounds Argued Together
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`Regarding the structure of the argument, Patent Owner notes that this is
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`one of six related proceedings scheduled for oral argument on October 30,
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`specifically, IPR 2014-01197, -01207, -01209, -01226, -01463, and -01544.
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`Because all of these proceedings raise related issues regarding the same
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`challenged patents and include related grounds, Patent Owner addresses the
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`appropriate structure of all of these proceedings together.
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`Proceedings IPR2014-01226, -01463, and -01544 (the “Cisco/Quantum
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`Proceedings”), originally brought by Petitioners Cisco and Quantum, share a
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`single primary reference on all instituted grounds: the CRD-5500 Instruction
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`Manual. Accordingly, Patent Owner agrees with those Petitioners that oral
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`argument related to the CRD-5500 grounds should occur in the morning of
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`October 30, and that Petitioners Cisco/Quantum and Patent Owner each be
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`allotted one hour for arguments as to these grounds.
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`Oracle and Netapp, Petitioners in the -1197, -1207, and -1209 proceedings
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`(the “Oracle/Netapp Proceedings”), request that these three proceedings be
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`consolidated for argument in the afternoon. IPR2014-01207 is the only one of
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`these proceedings that includes the CRD-5500 Instruction Manual as a reference,
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`and only as to one ground. Given that all Petitioners’ arguments regarding these
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`grounds are similar, it would be more efficient and fair to argue the CRD-5500
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`related grounds in the -1207 proceeding together with the Cisco/Quantum
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`Proceedings in the morning. Doing so will keep all arguments related to the
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`CRD-5500 Instruction Manual grouped together, for the Board’s convenience
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`and to more clearly focus the issues. In such case, Petitioners would make serial
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`opening arguments, with the -1207 Petitioners being allotted whatever time they
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`choose from their total argument time from the Oracle/Netapp proceedings.
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`Patent Owner would follow with one combined argument, including whatever
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`time it chose to include from its argument in the Oracle/Netapp Proceedings.
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`Petitioners would then present serial rebuttals.
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`Second Proposal: Separate Hearings as between Petitioners, with
`CRD-5500 Related Grounds At the Beginning of the Second Argument
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`However, if the Board wishes to keep arguments between the two sets of
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`Petitioners separated into different hearings, Patent Owner suggests that oral
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`argument as to the CRD-5500 grounds in the Oracle/Netapp Proceedings be
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`allocated to the beginning of oral argument in the afternoon. Petitioners’ first
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`opening argument would be limited to the CRD-5500 grounds. Patent Owner
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`would respond, also limited to the same grounds, and Petitioner would reply.
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`Then, Petitioner would begin its second opening argument as to the remaining
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`grounds in the Oracle/Netapp Proceedings, followed by Patent Owner, etc.
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`This arrangement would allow the Board to group the CRD-5500
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`arguments together but maintain separate hearings as between Petitioners. Patent
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`Owner is also concerned that the -1207 Petitioners will choose not to address the
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`CRD-5500 in their opening argument, implicitly relying on the arguments made
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`by the Cisco and Quantum Petitioners, requiring Patent Owner to address all
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`Petitioners’ arguments in its response, and leaving Petitioners to address the
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`CRD-5500 grounds for the first time in rebuttal. Segregating the CRD-5500
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`argument would force the parties, if they intend to make any such arguments, to
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`do so before turning to the other grounds. Patent Owner believes that, given the
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`number of grounds involved, that the combined oral argument for the
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`Oracle/Netapp Proceedings should be ninety minutes per side, of which 30
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`minutes could be allotted to the CRD-5500 grounds and one hour permitted for
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`the remaining grounds. If neither party speak on the CRD, this hearing would be
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`limited to one hour per side.
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`Dated: September 22, 2015
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`/James H. Hall/
`James H. Hall
`Reg. No. 66,317
`Counsel for Patent Owner
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
`The undersigned certifies service of this Request for Oral Argument on
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`September 22, 2015 on counsel for Petitioner by e-mail (pursuant to agreement) at
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`the below e-mail addresses:
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`David L. McCombs
`david.mccombs.ipr@haynesboone.com
`Andrew S. Ehmke
`andy.ehmke.ipr@haynesboone.com
`Scott T. Jarratt
`scott.jarratt.ipr@haynesboone.com
`Phillip B. Philbin
`Phillip.Philbin.IPR@haynesboone.com
`Gregory P. Huh
`Gregory.Huh.IPR@haynesbone.com
`Haynes and Boone, LLP
`2323 Victory Ave. Suite 700
`Dallas, TX 75219
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`Greg Gardella
`cpdocketgardella@oblon.com
`Scott McKeown
`cpdocketmckeown@oblon.com
`Oblon, LLP
`1940 Duke Street
`Alexandria, VA 22314
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`By: /James H. Hall/
`James H. Hall
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