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`U.S. Patent No. 6,968,884
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`NORMAN INTERNATIONAL, INC.
`Petitioner
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`HUNTER DOUGLAS, INC.
`Patent Owner
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`Case No. IPR2014-01175
`U.S. Patent No. 6,968,884
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`PATENT OWNER’S MOTION TO EXCLUDE PURSUANT TO 37
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`September 14, 2015
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`TABLE OF CONTENTS
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`INTRODUCTION .............................................................................................. 1
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`II. RELEVANT PROCEDURAL HISTORY ......................................................... 1
`III. ARGUMENT ..................................................................................................... 2
`A. Exhibits 1002, 1004, 1005, 1007, and 1008 Are Irrelevant to Any
`Ground Instituted by the Board. ......................................................................... 2
`B. Exhibits 1009 and 1010 Fail to Meet the Requirements of FRE 702. ...... 2
`1. Mr. Carlson Is Not Qualified as an Expert in the Relevant Field of
`Art. ............................................................................................................... 3
`2. Mr. Foley Is Not Qualified as an Expert in the Relevant Field of Art. . 4
`IV. CONCLUSION .................................................................................................. 5
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`I.
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`INTRODUCTION
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.64(c), Patent Owner Hunter Douglas, Inc.
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`(“Patent Owner”) hereby moves to exclude Petitioner’s Exhibits 1002, 1004, 1005,
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`1007, 1008, 1009, 1010. Each of these exhibits violates the Board’s rules of
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`admissibility, contravenes the Federal Rules of Evidence (“FRE”), and/or is not
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`relevant to any remaining issue in this proceeding. As such, all should be
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`excluded.
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`II. RELEVANT PROCEDURAL HISTORY
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`On July 16, 2014, Petitioner filed its second Petition for inter parties review
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`of United States Patent No. 6,968,884 (the “‘884 Patent”).1 With its Petition,
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`Petitioner submitted Exhibit 1002 (Japanese Patent Application Publication S54-
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`38648 (“Tachikawa”)); Exhibit 1004 (Great Britain Patent No. 1,174,127
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`(“Skidmore”)); Exhibit 1005 (U.S. Patent No. 1,870,532 (“Schuetz”)); Exhibit
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`1007 (U.S. Patent No. 6,056,036 (“Todd”) and Exhibit 1008 (U.S. Patent No.
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`6,293,329 (“Toti”)) in support of Grounds 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 (Paper 1 at 16-56), none
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`of which were instituted by the Board. See Paper 9 at 10-17, 21-24.
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`Petitioner also submitted Exhibits 1009 and 1010 concurrently with its
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`Petition. Exhibits 1009 and 1010 are declarations by Lawrence E. Carlson and
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`1 Petitioner’s first petition for inter partes review of the ‘884 Patent was denied in
`its entirety by the Board. See IPR2014-00276, Paper 2 and Paper 11.
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`Patrick E. Foley, respectively, which purport to provide expert testimony regarding
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`the ‘884 Patent and Petitioner’s alleged prior art. See Paper 1 at 4.
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`Patent Owner timely objected to Exhibits 1002, 1004, 1005, 1007, 1008,
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`1009, and 1010 within 10 business days of the institution of trial. See Exhibit 2002
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`at Appendix A; 37 C.F.R. § 42.64(b)(1).
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`III. ARGUMENT
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`A. Exhibits 1002, 1004, 1005, 1007, and 1008 Are Irrelevant to
`Any Ground Instituted by the Board.
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`Petitioner’s Exhibits 1002, 1004, 1005, 1007, and 1008 are inadmissible as
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`each is irrelevant to the remaining proceedings. In its Institution of Inter Partes
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`Review Decision, the Board determined that trial should not be instituted on all
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`grounds advocated by Petitioner that involved those exhibits. See Paper 9 at 10-17,
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`21-24. Those exhibits, accordingly, have no bearing on any issue remaining to be
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`decided by the Board with respect to the instituted ground—Ground 6—and
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`therefore should be excluded pursuant to FRE 402 and 403.
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`B. Exhibits 1009 and 1010 Fail to Meet the Requirements of FRE
`702.
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`Petitioner’s Exhibits 1009 and 1010 should be excluded under FRE 702,
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`which provides that a witness qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill,
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`experience, training, or education may testify in the form of an opinion if (a) the
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`expert’s knowledge will help the trier of fact to understand the evidence or
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`determine a fact in issue, (b) the testimony is based upon sufficient facts or data,
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`(c) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods, and (d) the
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`witness has applied the principles and methods reliably to the facts of the case.
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`Testimony on the issue of unpatentability proffered by a witness who is not
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`“qualified in the pertinent art” generally is not admissible under FRE 702.
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`CaptionCall LLC v. UltraTec, Inc., IPR2013-00540, Paper 78 (PTAB Mar. 3,
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`2015) (quoting Sundance, Inc. v. DeMonte Fabricating Ltd., 550 F.3d 1356, 1363-
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`64 (Fed. Cir. 2008)). Nothing in the Petition or in Exhibits 1009 and 1010
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`demonstrates that declarants Mr. Carlson or Mr. Foley are qualified as experts in
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`the relevant field of art of the ‘884 Patent.
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`1. Mr. Carlson Is Not Qualified as an Expert in the Relevant
`Field of Art.
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`Mr. Carlson claims that he is qualified to opine as an expert because of his
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`“40 years educating engineering students on mechanical and component design”
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`and the fact that he has “reviewed several textbooks relating to component design.”
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`Exhibit 1009 at ¶¶ 17-23. These conclusions, however, are undermined by a
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`review of Mr. Carlson’s curriculum vitae and his own description of his
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`experience. Indeed, an informed reading of those materials reveals that he has had
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`no relevant experience with window covers. Id. Mr. Carlson’s field of expertise
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`appears to be in human limb prosthetics, not window coverings. Id. Mr. Carlson
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`admits that his 40 years of experience actually pertains to “rehabilitation
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`engineering, upper-limb prosthetics, consumer products, sculptures, [] products to
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`help developing countries[,] … interactive learning exhibits, sporting equipment, ...
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`a turbine-based flowmeter, a human-powered water pump, [] a counterbalance
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`mechanism for a computer monitor that allows it to float in space[,]… a patented
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`releasable ski binding, an improved spring-loaded rock climbing cam, and an
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`automatic drywall screw gun.” Id. at ¶ 20. Window coverings are notably absent
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`from this comprehensive list of Mr. Carlson’s projects. Thus, Mr. Carlson has not
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`established that he is an expert in the relevant art, and has not demonstrated that he
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`has personal knowledge about the art or the issues on which he offers testimony.
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`FRE 602, 702, 703. Accordingly, Exhibit 1009 is inadmissible because Mr.
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`Carlson is not qualified to testify regarding the field of invention of the ‘884 Patent
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`at the time that the patent was filed.
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`2. Mr. Foley Is Not Qualified as an Expert in the Relevant
`Field of Art.
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`Similarly, Mr. Foley is not qualified to offer expert testimony under FRE
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`702. First, Mr. Foley admits that his current occupation as an Engineering
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`Manager with Blount International, Inc. is “outside of technologies for window
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`blinds and coverings.” Exhibit 1010 at ¶ 1. Second, Mr. Foley admits that he had
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`no experience whatsoever with window covers until a number of years after the
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`time of the invention of the ‘884 Patent. Id. at ¶¶ 12-15. As such, Mr. Foley has
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`not established that he is an expert in the relevant art, and has not demonstrated
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`that he has personal knowledge about the art or the issues on which he offers
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`testimony. FRE 602, 702, 703. Accordingly, Exhibit 1010 is inadmissible because
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`Mr. Foley is not qualified to testify regarding the field of invention of the ‘884
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`Patent at the time that the patent was filed.
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`IV. CONCLUSION
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`For the foregoing reasons, Exhibits 1002, 1004, 1005, 1007, 1008, 1009, and
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`1010 should be excluded.
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`Date: September 14, 2015
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`By: s/ Kristopher L. Reed
`Kristopher L. Reed
`Registration No. 58694
`Lead Counsel for Patent Owner
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`The undersigned hereby certifies that copies of this PATENT
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`OWNER’S MOTION TO EXCLUDE PURSUANT TO 37 C.F.R.
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`§ 42.64(c) was served September 14, 2015 via electronic service on the
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`following:
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`Bing Ai
`Perkins Coie LLP
`11988 El Camino Real, Suite 350
`San Diego, California 92130
`Email: ai@perkinscoie.com
`norman-hd-ipr@perkinscoie.com
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`Dated: September 14, 2015
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`Kourtney Mueller Merrill
`Douglas Sawyer
`Perkins Coie LLP
`1900 16th St., Suite 1400
`Denver, CO 80202
`Email: kmerrill@perkinscoie.com
`dsawyer@perkinscoie.com
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`By: s/ Kristopher L. Reed
`Kristopher L. Reed
`Reg. No. 58694
`Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton LLP
`1400 Wewatta Street, Suite 600
`Denver, Colorado 80202
`Tel: (303) 571-4000
`Fax: (303) 571-4321
`kreed@kilpatricktownsend.com
`Lead Counsel for Patent Owner
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