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IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
`
`Applicant:
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`Darbee
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`Universal Remote Control, Inc.
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`Case No.:
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`IPR2014-01106
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`v.
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`Filing Date: April 8, 1993
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`Universal Electronics, Inc.
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`Patent No.:
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`5,255,313
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`Trial Paralegal: Cathy Underwood
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`Title:
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`UNIVERSAL
`REMOTE CONTROL
`SYSTEM
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`Attorney Doc.: 059489.144100
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`MOTION FOR OBSERVATION REGARDING CROSS-EXAMINATION
`OF THOMAS GAFFORD
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`Mail Stop PATENT BOARD
`Patent Trial and Appeal Board
`United States Patent and Trademark Office
`P.O. Box 1450
`Alexandria, VA 22313-1450
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`Certificate of Filing: I hereby certify that this correspondence is being electronically filed with the USPTO on this
`21st day of July, 2015.
`
`By:
`
`/s/ Eric J. Maiers
`Eric J. Maiers
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`

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`2001.
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`2002.
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`2003.
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`2004.
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`2005.
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`2006.
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`2007.
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`TABLE OF EXHIBITS
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`3D-Matrix, Ltd. v. Menicon Co., IPR2014-00398, Paper No. 11
`(P.T.A.B. Aug. 1, 2014)
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`Synopsis v. Mentor Graphics Corp., IPR2012-00042, Paper No. 16
`(P.T.A.B. Feb. 22, 2013)
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`Research in Motion Corp. v. Wi-Lan USA Inc., IPR2013-00126, Paper
`No. 10 (P.T.A.B. June 20, 2013)
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`OpenTV, Inc. v. Cisco Tech., Inc., IPR2013-00329, Paper 9 (P.T.A.B.
`Nov. 29, 2013)
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`Dominion Dealer Solutions, LLC v. AutoAlert, Inc., IPR2013-00222,
`Paper No. 12 (P.T.A.B. Aug. 12, 2013)
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`SAS Inst., Inc. v. ComplementSoft, LLC, IPR2013-00581, Paper No.
`15 (P.T.A.B. Dec. 30, 2013)
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`Heart Failure Techs., LLC v. CardioKinetix, Inc., IPR2013-00183,
`Paper No. 12 (P.T.A.B. July 31, 2013)
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`2008-2016. INTENTIONALLY SKIPPED
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`2017.
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`2018.
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`2019.
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`Trial Transcript from Universal Electronics, Inc. v. Universal Remote
`Control, Inc., No. 8:12-cv-00329-AG-JPR (C.D. Cal.), Dkt. No. 398-1
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`Universal Remote Control, Inc.’s (“URC’s”) Initial Disclosures from
`Universal Electronics, Inc. v. Universal Remote Control, Inc., No.
`8:12-cv-00329-AG-JPR (C.D. Cal.)
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`URC’s Response to UEI’s Interrogatory at No. 6 from Universal
`Electronics, Inc. v. Universal Remote Control, Inc., No. 8:12-cv-
`00329-AG-JPR (C.D. Cal.)
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`2020.
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`Ohsung Website Printout, available at
`http://www.ohsungec.com/02_affli/02_foreign/06.aspx.
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`i
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`2021.
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`2022.
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`2023.
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`2024.
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`2025.
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`2026.
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`2027.
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`2028.
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`2029.
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`2030.
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`2031.
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`URC’s Amended Initial Disclosures from Universal Electronics, Inc.
`v. Universal Remote Control, Inc., No. 8:12-cv-00329-AG-JPR (C.D.
`Cal.)
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`Defendant Ohsung Electronics, USA, Inc.’s Answer to Second
`Amended Complaint, Dkt. No. 76, from Universal Electronics Inc., v.
`Universal Remote Control, Inc., Ohsung Electronics Co., Ltd., and
`Ohsung Electronics U.S.A., Inc., Case No. SACV 13-00984 AG
`(JPRx) (C.D. Cal.)
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`LinkedIn Profile of Jak You, available at
`https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jak-you/92/8a5/6b.
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`09/05/2013 M. Hurley Email to L. Kenneally
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`Amended Notice of 30(b)(6) Deposition to URC from Universal
`Electronics, Inc. v. Universal Remote Control, Inc., No. 8:12-cv-
`00329-AG-JPR (C.D. Cal.)
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`Joint Stipulation Staying Action Pending Petitions for Inter Partes
`Review of All Asserted Claims, Dkt. No. 87 from Universal
`Electronics Inc., v. Universal Remote Control, Inc., Ohsung
`Electronics Co., Ltd., and Ohsung Electronics U.S.A., Inc., Case No.
`SACV 13-00984 AG (JPRx) (C.D. Cal.)
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`Joint Statement of the Parties Pursuant to Order Staying Action (ECF
`No. 88) and Joint Request to Continue Status Conference, Dkt. No.
`102 from Universal Electronics Inc., v. Universal Remote Control,
`Inc., Ohsung Electronics Co., Ltd., and Ohsung Electronics U.S.A.,
`Inc., Case No. SACV 13-00984 AG (JPRx) (C.D. Cal.)
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`URC NY Secretary of State, Division of Corporations, Entity
`Information Website Printout
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`Declaration of Alex Cook
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`Declaration of Ramzi Ammari
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`June 28, 2004 Intrigue/Logitech Settlement Agreement
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`2032.
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`2033.
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`Logitech Harmony Claim Charts
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`July 1, 2012 Logitech Settlement Agreement
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`2034. Logitech Harmony 650 Manual
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`2035. Logitech Harmony 700 Manual
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`2036. Logitech Harmony 900 Manual
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`2037. Logitech Harmony One Manual
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`2038. Logitech Harmony 1100 Manual
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`2039. January 1, 2002 Contec Settlement Agreement
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`2040. September 1, 2009 Contec Holdings Agreement
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`2041. Excerpts of Logitech Annual Reports 2007 through 2014
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`2042. January 1, 2007 RTI Settlement Agreement
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`2043. Nevo/Xsight Sales Data
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`2044. December 17, 2001 U.S. Electronics Settlement Agreement
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`2045.
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`2046.
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`2047.
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`Transcript of Deposition of Thomas Gafford
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`INTENTIONALLY SKIPPED
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`Omron Oilfield & Marine, Inc. v. MD/TOTCO, IPR2013-00265,
`Paper No. 11 (P.T.A.B. Oct. 31, 2013)
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`2048. UEI Upgradeable Sales Data
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`2049. UEI Licensing Royalties
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`2050.
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`November 1, 2004 URC Settlement Agreement
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`2051-63.
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`INTENTIONALLY SKIPPED
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`2064. Redacted Declaration of Ramzi Ammari
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`2065. Proposed Protective Order
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`iii
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`2066. Redline of Proposed Protective Order
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`2067.
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`2068.
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`2069.
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`Redacted Nevo/Xsight Sales Data
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`Redacted UEI Upgradeable Sales Data
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`Redacted UEI Licensing Royalties
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`IPR2014-01106
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`U.S. Patent No. 5,255,313
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`Universal Electronics Inc. (“UEI” or “Patent Owner”) respectfully submits
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`this motion for observation regarding cross-examination during the July 13, 2015,
`
`deposition of Thomas Gafford1, a reply declarant of Universal Remote Control,
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`Inc. (“URC” or “Petitioner”). Patent Owner submits the following observations
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`based on Mr. Gafford’s testimony.
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`Observation #1
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`In Ex. 2045, at 20:3-5 and 20:20-24, Mr. Gafford testified that he prepared
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`paragraph 15 of his declaration (Exhibit 1063), but then conceded that paragraph
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`15 of his declaration was word-for-word identical to paragraph 11 of the
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`declaration of Petitioner’s prior expert, Stephen Bristow (Exhibit 1007). That
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`testimony is relevant Mr. Gafford’s and his declaration’s credibility, because it
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`calls into question the extent to which Mr. Gafford’s opinions are truly
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`independent and the extent to which counsel for Petitioner wrote Mr. Gafford’s
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`opinions for him.
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`Observation #2
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`In Ex. 2045, at 19:14-20:2 and 22:14-24:7, Mr. Gafford testified that he
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`prepared “the content but not the form” of paragraph 18 of his declaration (Exhibit
`
`1063), but then conceded that the vast majority of paragraph 18 of his declaration
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`was word-for-word identical to paragraph 13 of the declaration of Petitioner’s prior
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`1 The transcript of Mr. Gafford’s cross-examination has been submitted herewith as Exhibit
`2045.
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`expert, Stephen Bristow (Exhibit 1007). That testimony is relevant Mr. Gafford’s
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`and his declaration’s credibility, because it calls into question the extent to which
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`Mr. Gafford’s opinions are truly independent and the extent to which counsel for
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`Petitioner wrote Mr. Gafford’s opinions for him.
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`Observation #3
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`In Ex. 2045, at 31:19-23, 33:9-34:18 and 20:20-24, Mr. Gafford testified that
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`none of his undergraduate and post-graduate education involved universal remote
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`controls. That testimony is relevant because it shows that Mr. Gafford lacks
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`credibility and the qualifications to testify as a purported expert concerning patents
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`involving universal remote controls.
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`Observation #4
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`In Ex. 2045, at 34:24-35:22 and 38:8-24, Mr. Gafford testified that none of
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`his employment experience involved universal remote controls. That testimony is
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`relevant because it shows that Mr. Gafford lacks credibility and the qualifications
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`to testify as a purported expert concerning patents involving universal remote
`
`controls.
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`Observation #5
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`In Ex. 2045, at 39:19-41:24, Mr. Gafford testified that his “extensive
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`experience” in remote controls, specifically, consists of working with non-
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`universal Zenith and RCA remotes in the 1960s, owning and “programming” (i.e.,
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`configuring) two models of universal remote controls for his home use, and
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`consulting for two patent litigations in which non-universal remote controls were
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`integrated into larger systems. That testimony is relevant because it shows that Mr.
`
`Gafford lacks credibility and the qualifications to testify as a purported expert
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`concerning patents involving universal remote controls.
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`Observation #6
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`In Ex. 2045, at 45:5-46:10 and 54:8-14, Mr. Gafford admitted that he does
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`not satisfy Petitioner’s prior expert, Mr. Bristow’s, alternate definition of a person
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`of ordinary skill in the art and, concerning Mr. Bristow’s primary definition of one
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`of ordinary skill in the art, admitted that he has had no formal training in universal
`
`remote controls, but then testified that he believes he meets Mr. Bristow’s
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`requirement of “training in consumer electronics and remote control systems
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`including at least two years of practical experience” because he has reviewed
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`literature for two universal remote controls and use that literature to configure
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`those remotes for his home use. That testimony is relevant because it shows that
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`Mr. Gafford lacks credibility and the qualifications to testify as a purported expert
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`concerning patents involving universal remote controls, most notably, because he
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`does not satisfy Mr. Bristow’s definition of a person of ordinary skill in the art.
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`Observation #7
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`U.S. Patent No. 5,255,313
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`In Ex. 2045, at 54:8-23, Mr. Gafford testified that he has had no formal
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`training in remote control systems and that he has no experience in designing
`
`remote controls, universal or otherwise. That testimony is relevant because it
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`shows that Mr. Gafford lacks credibility and the qualifications to testify as a
`
`purported expert concerning patents involving universal remote controls.
`
`Observation #8
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`In Ex. 2045, at 64:15-20 and 65:7-14, Mr. Gafford admitted that the LA1,
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`LB1, LC1 and LF1 routines of the Welles patent (Exhibit 1061) are examples of
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`machine instructions that are necessary to transmit infrared codes to a recipient
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`device. That testimony is relevant because it contradicts Mr. Gafford’s opinion in
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`¶ 42 of his declaration (Exhibit 1063) that the claim term “code data” does not
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`require instructions.
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`Observation #9
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`In Ex. 2045, at 68:1-7, Mr. Gafford admitted that in the Welles patent
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`(Exhibit 1061), a combination of instructions and timing data are necessary to
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`drive LED output. That testimony is relevant because it contradicts Mr. Gafford’s
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`opinion in ¶ 42 of his declaration (Exhibit 1063) that the claim term “code data”
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`does not require instructions.
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`IPR2014-01106
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`Observation #10
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`U.S. Patent No. 5,255,313
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`In Ex. 2045, at 72:3-23, 73:18-74:2 and 75:8-22, Mr. Gafford admitted that
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`the keypad of Ciarcia is connected to an 74LS240 integrated circuit chip, that the
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`74LS240 chip has an unused input pin and two unused output pins, and thus the
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`circuit in Ciarcia a larger keypad with one more column and two more rows. That
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`testimony is relevant because it supports Patent Owner’s and Mr. Cook’s position
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`that one of ordinary skill in the art would not be motivated to reduce pin-count in
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`Ciarcia, since the circuitry in Ciarcia has pins to spare, and therefore would not be
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`motivated to combine Ciarcia with Hastreiter.
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`Observation #11
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`In Ex. 2045, at 80:18-81:2, Mr. Gafford admitted that the “menu
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`instructions” of Ciarcia play no role in the transmission of infrared codes. That
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`testimony is relevant because it means that menu instructions cannot satisfy the
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`“code data” claim term.
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`Observation #12
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`In Ex. 2045, at 99:2-100:10, Mr. Gafford admitted that 74LS240 chip of
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`Ciarcia is neither a processor nor does it have bidirectional ports. That testimony
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`is relevant because if the 74LS240 is not a processor, it cannot be a “central
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`processing unit” or a “CPU” in the context of the challenged claims, and because
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`one of ordinary skill in the art would not be motivated to combine Ciarcia with
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`Hastreiter, which requires that its keypad be connected to bidirectional ports.
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`Observation #13
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`In Ex. 2045, at 96:6-21, Mr. Gafford admitted that, aside from differing
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`citations to the respective patents, the text of his declaration for the ‘313 patent is
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`the same as that of his declaration for the ‘971, that he did not intend to have
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`different opinions for the two patents, and that his testimony as to the ‘917 patent
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`would apply equally to the ‘313 patent. That testimony is relevant because the
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`testimony discussed above in Observations #1-12 was elicited in the context of the
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`‘917 patent, but is equally applicable to the ‘313 patent.
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`Date: July 21, 2015
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`Respectfully Submitted,
`GREENBERG TRAURIG, LLP
`
`/Eric J. Maiers/
`By: Eric J. Maiers, Reg. No. 59,614
`James J. Lukas, Reg. No. 59,114
`Matthew J. Levinstein, Pro Hac Vice
`Rob R. Harmer, Reg. No. 68,048
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`The undersigned hereby certifies that on the below date, I caused the
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`foregoing to be served upon the following counsel of record via electronic mail
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`(with counsel’s agreement):
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`Douglas A. Miro
`Ostrolenk Faber LLP
`1180 Avenue of the Americas New
`York, NY 10036
`Telephone: (212) 596-0500
`Facsimile: (212) 382-0888
`dmiro@ostrolenk.com
`kbarkaus@ostrolenk.com
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`Peter H. Kang, Reg. No. 40,350
`Theodore W. Chandler, Reg. No. 50,319
`Ferenc Pazmandi, Reg. No. 66,216
`Sidley Austin LLP
`1001 Page Mill Rd.
`Building One
`Palo Alto, CA 94304
`Telephone: (650) 565-7000
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`fpazmandi@sidley.com
`urc@sidley.com
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`Date:
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`July 21, 2015
`
`/s/ Eric J. Maiers
`Eric J. Maiers

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