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`In re Patent of: Arling et al.
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`Patent No.: 7,126,468
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`Filed: September 19, 2003
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`Issued: October 24, 2006
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`Assignee: Universal Electronics Inc.
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`Title: SYSTEM AND METHOD FOR
`MONITORING REMOTE CONTROL
`TRANSMISSIONS
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`Universal Remote Control, Inc.
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`Universal Electronics, Inc.
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`Case No. IPR2014-01084
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`Trial Paralegal: Amy Kattula
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`Patent Trial and Appeal Board
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`PETITIONER’S REPLY TO PATENT OWNER’S RESPONSE
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`Certificate of Filing: I hereby certify that this correspondence is being electronically filed with the USPTO
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`TABLE OF CONTENTS
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`Introduction......................................................................................................1
`The Examiner Did Not Consider Cohen During Prosecution .........................1
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`III. Mr. Geier’s Declaration Properly Sets Forth Evidence of How One Skilled
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`IV. Cohen Discloses All of the Limitations of Claims 27 and 35.........................4
`A. Cohen discloses “to update the data to represent the current state of the
`intended target appliance which will result from the intended target
`appliance performing the operation command.”...................................4
`B. Cohen discloses “updating operations,” as required by claims 27 and
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`C. Channel selection is a “state” as used in the ‘468 patent .......................6
`Cohen Discloses the Features of Claims 28 and 45 ........................................7
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`VI. Cohen Discloses the Features of Claims 33 and 49 ........................................7
`VII. Conclusion .....................................................................................................10
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`EXHIBIT LIST (All exhibits previously filed)
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`U.S. Patent No. 7,126,468 (filed Sep. 19, 2003) to Arling et al.
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`Prosecution history of U.S. Patent Application Serial No. 10/665,650,
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`1001.
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`1002.
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`which matured into the '468 Patent.
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`1003.
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`U.S. Patent Publication No. 2001/0045819 (filed Mar. 12, 2001;
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`published Nov. 29, 2001) to Harris et al.
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`1004.
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`"IntelliControl Reference Manual" Version. 8.1, April 2002 by Niles
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`Audio Corporation.
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`1005.
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`U.S. Patent No. 5,235,414 (filed May 21, 1990; issued Aug. 10, 1993)
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`to Cohen.
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`1006.
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`1007.
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`Ron Karr, et al., CORE Reference Manual; CL9, ©1987 ("CORE").
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`U.S. Patent No. 6,545,587 (filed Jan 13, 1999; issued Apr. 8, 2003) to
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`Hatakeyama, et al.
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`1008.
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`Declaration of James T. Geier In Support of the Petition for Inter
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`Partes Review of U.S. Patent No. 7,126,468.
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`1009.
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`Complaint for Patent Infringement in Universal Electronics, Inc. v.
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`Universal Remote Control, Inc., Civil Action No. SACV 13-00984,
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`dated June 28, 2013.
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`1010.
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`U.S. Patent No. 7,005,979 (filed Jun. 25, 2003; issued Feb. 28, 2006)
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`to Haughawout et al.
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`The following is the Petitioner’s Reply to the Patent Owner’s Response filed
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`March 25, 2015 (Paper 16), and is being timely filed in accordance with the
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`Scheduling Order issued January 9, 2015 (Paper 10) and the Joint Stipulation of
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`the Parties filed May 21, 2015 (Paper 17).
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`I.
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`Introduction
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`For the reasons set forth at least in the Petition filed June 30, 2015 (Paper 1),
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`and consistent with the Board’s Decision to Institute dated January 9, 2015 (Paper
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`9), claims 27, 28, 33, 35, 45, and 49 of U.S. Patent No. 7,126,468 B2 (Ex. 1001,
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`“the ’468 patent”) are anticipated by U.S. Patent No. 5,235,414 to Cohen (Ex.
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`1005, “Cohen” or “’414 patent”).
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`II. The Examiner Did Not Consider Cohen During Prosecution
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`The Patent Owner has alleged that the Examiner “considered” Cohen prior
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`to allowing the ‘468 patent. Paper 16, p. 3. Patent Owner refers to an excerpt from
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`the Background of the ‘468 patent containing the Patent Owner’s characterization
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`of Cohen’s disclosure. Id. The Patent Owner then argues that the Examiner must
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`have “considered” Cohen in its entirety because it was noted in the Background.
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`Id. This is incorrect.
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`It is submitted that while the Examiner may have read the Patent Owner’s
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`characterization of Cohen, the Patent Owner has presented no evidence that
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`Cohen’s entire disclosure was “considered” by the Examiner.
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`The Patent Owner further alleges that Cohen is “redundant and cumulative”.
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`Paper 16, p. 4. The Patent Owner has not identified another reference or any other
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`part of the record to establish that Cohen is cumulative.
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`Patent Owner does not dispute that Cohen was not cited in an Information
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`Disclosure Statement. Patent Owner apparently asserts that citation of a prior art
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`reference in the Background sufficiently complies with the rules of the Patent
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`Office and that insisting that a reference must be disclosed to the Office according
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`to the rules amounts to form-over-substance. Paper 16, p. 4. Patent Owner’s
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`arguments are directly contradictory to existing law and Patent Office procedures.
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`The duty to disclose information material to patentability is satisfied if the
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`information “is submitted to the Office in the manner prescribed by §§1.97(b)-(d)
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`and 1.98” of 37 C.F.R. See 37 C.F.R. §1.56(a). The Patent Owner has not shown
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`that summarizing Cohen in the background satisfies the disclosure requirements of
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`the Patent Office.
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`Further, Patent Owner does not identify any evidence in the prosecution
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`history of the ‘468 patent to suggest that the Examiner did consider the entire
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`specification of Cohen, presumably because no such evidence exists. Cohen was
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`not listed in an Information Disclosure Statement and no mention is made of it or
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`Patent Owner’s conention that the Examienr considered Cohen is nothing
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`more than conjecture. Further, Patent Owner fails to provide any example of the
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`allegedly cumulative nature of the disclosure of Cohen.
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`Based on the available evidence, Cohen was not considered by the
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`Examiner.
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`III. Mr. Geier’s Declaration Properly Sets Forth Evidence of How One
`Skilled in the Art Would View the Claims At Issue and the Cited Art
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`The Patent Owner argues that Mr. Geier’s declaration should not be
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`considered. Paper 16, p. 5. The Patent Owner reasons that Geier’s declaration
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`should not be accepted because the declaration includes opinion statements. Id.
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`This position has no merit. Mr. Geier’s declaration presents the opinion of an
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`expert. Naturally, the statements in the Geier declaration are in the form of
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`opinion statements. Mr. Geier’s declaration, however, relies on Cohen for factual
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`support of those opionions. The Patent Owner has not explained why any of the
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`opinion statements are factually incorrect. Indeed, Patent Owner failed to provide
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`any sort of rebuttal to Mr. Geier’s opinions other than mere attorney argument.
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`IV. Cohen Discloses All of the Limitations of Claims 27 and 35
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`A. Cohen discloses “to update the data to represent the current state
`of the intended target appliance which will result from the
`intended target appliance performing the operation command.”
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`The Patent Owner alleges that Cohen does not disclose the above limitation
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`of claim 27. Paper 16, p. 5. This is incorrect.
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`As is set forth in the Petition, and as the Board recognized, at least col. 4, ll.
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`4-6 of Cohen discloses this feature. Paper 1, p. 11 and Paper 9, p. 12. Patent
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`Owner offers no explanation as to why this portion of Cohen does not disclose this
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`feature. Indeed, Patent Owned makes no mention whatsoever of this portion of
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`Cohen.
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`Similarly, with respect to claim 35, Petitioner argued, and the Board agreed
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`that this same portion of Cohen discloses “to update data whereby the updated data
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`reflects a state of the intended target appliance which will result from the intended
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`target appliance performing the operation” as recited in claim 35. Again, Patent
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`Owner offers no argument with respect to the disclosure of this portion of Cohen
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`or why it does not disclose this feature of claim 35.
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`B. Cohen discloses “updating operations,” as required by claims 27
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`The Patent Owner asserts that monitor 34 of Cohen does not perform the
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`“updating operations” required by claims 27 and 35. Paper 16, p. 5. Patent
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`Owner appears to argue that the “updating operations” must take place in the
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`monitor 34 of Cohen in order for Cohen to disclose this limitation. Contrary to this
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`position, however, Patent Owner admits that Cohen discloses transmitting updated
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`information to the host computer. Patent Owner is simply incorrect.
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`First, Petitioner notes that neither claim 27 nor claim 35 requires any
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`particular device to perform the recited “updating” operations. Thus, whether
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`updating occurs in the monitor or elsewhere in Cohen is irrelevant to this claim.
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`Patent Owner admits that at least the host computer performs updating, and thus
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`Cohen discloses the updating operations of claims 27 and 35.
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`Further, Patent Owner’s characterization of Cohen cannot be correct in view
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`of its admission that Cohen discloses transmitting updated information to the host
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`computer. The updated data must be updated somewhere other than the host
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`computer in order to be transmitted thereto. Thus, Patent Owner’s characterization
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`of Cohen is incorrect in light of its own reading thereof.
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`Patent Owner’s characterization of the operating instructions is also
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`inconsistent with the teachings of the ‘468 patent itself. The ‘468 patent expressly
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`states that the updated data may be at the appliance, at a command receiver, or at
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`“a remote device”. See Ex. 1005, col. 9, ll. 12-15. The ‘468 patent allows for
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`interpreting claim 28 and claim 35 to read on updating data remotely. Thus, claims
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`27 and 35 read on Cohen based on at least col. 4, ll. 4-5 (cited by the Petitioner)
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`C. Channel selection is a “state” as used in the ‘468 patent
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`The Patent Owner alleges that a channel selection is not a state. Paper 16, p.
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`7. The Patent Owner alleges that the ‘468 patent does not describe a channel
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`selection as a state. Id. This is incorrect.
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`The ‘468 patent discloses a state table in Fig. 4. The ‘468 patent discloses
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`that the state table reflects “the state of an appliance by storing parameters that are
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`indicative of the transmission of commands to an appliance.” Ex. 1005, col. 5, ll.
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`1-3. A channel selection indicates the transmission of a command to an appliance.
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`Thus, a channel selection is a state as that term is used in the ‘468 patent.
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`Furthermore, as described in the ‘468 patent, a “state” is indicative of a
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`condition. Id. Clearly, being tuned to a channel is a state of an appliance. As
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`explained above, a channel selection fits the definition of a state provided in the
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`‘468 patent, and Patent Owner fails to indicate any portion of the ‘468 patent in
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`which channel selection is excluded. This under the broadest reasonable
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`interpretation standard that is applied in Inter Partes Review, the term “state” is
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`broad enough to encompass the channel an appliance is tuned to.
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`In light of the above, the Petitioner’s contention that Cohen discloses
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`“storing channel selection data in memory for future retrieval in Cohen’s system
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`constitutes updating state data,” is consistent with the Board’s view as well as
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`Patent Owner makes no mention of any other features of claims 27 and 35
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`and thus presumably does not contend that these features are not disclosed by
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`Cohen.
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`Accordingly, Cohen discloses all of the features of claims 27 and 35 such
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`that these claims are invalid in light of Cohen.
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`V. Cohen Discloses the Features of Claims 28 and 45
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`The Patent Owner asserts that claims 28 and 45 should not be deemed
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`anticipated by Cohen because claims 27 and 35 are not anticipated by Cohen.
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`Paper 16, p. 8. As explained in the previous section, claims 27 and 35 are
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`anticipated by Cohen.
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`Patent Owner has offered no additional arguments in support of the
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`patentability of dependent claims 28 and 45, presumably because no such
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`arguments exist.
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`Accordingly, for at least the reasons set forth in the Petition and consistent
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`with the Board’s Decision, claims 28 and 45 are anticipated by Cohen.
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`VI. Cohen Discloses the Features of Claims 33 and 49
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`The Patent Owner asserts that claims 33 and 49 should not be deemed
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`anticipated by Cohen because claims 27 and 35 are not anticipated by Cohen.
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`Paper 16, p. 8. As explained in the previous section, claims 27 and 35 are
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`The Patent Owner also alleges that “monitor 34 of Cohen does not determine
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`and store appliance states; the ‘outside world’ host computer does.” Paper 16, p. 8.
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`Neither claim 33 nor claim 49, however, requires “determining” a state of an
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`appliance. Thus, whether monitor 34 determines anything is not relevant to the
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`validity of these claims.
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`Patent Owner also alleges that Cohen claims to achieve its objective “by
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`capturing and logging remote control transmissions and periodically transmitting
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`that information to a completely separate host computer, which Cohen describes as
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`being part of the ‘outside world.’” Paper 16, p. 6.
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`Apparently attempting to hide monitor 34 as the source of the transmission,
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`the Patent Owner fails to mention that monitor 34 saves (capturing and logging)
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`the information indicative of the state of the appliance. The Patent Owner refers to
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`col. 6, lines 19-21, which states that if “it is determined that the data is to be
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`transmitted at that time in step 82, the system continues with step 84 in which
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`transmission occurs.” Step 82 is after step 80 in the process shown in Fig. 3. At
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`step 80 data “pertinent to viewing preference is date and time stamped and the
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`information is stored in RAM 60.” Ex. 1005, col. 6, ll. 9-11. RAM 60 is “a
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`random access memory that stores both information regarding the tuning of the
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`entertainment system for later retrieval and the functions of the different remote
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`control signals.” Id., col. 5, ll. 22-25. RAM 60 is part of monitor 34. See Id.,
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`Fig. 2. Clearly, the monitor 34 captures and logs the data, which is time and date
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`stamped, for later retrieval. Thus, it cannot be concluded that monitor 34 does not
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`store data related to “appliance states” as alleged by the Patent Owner.
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`The Patent Owner alleges that monitor 34 “does not locally maintain data
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`representative of or reflecting appliance states.” Paper 16, p. 9. However, as
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`explained above, the “‘outside world’ host computer” receives “remote control
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`signal data” from monitor 34. Clearly, monitor 34 is in “possession of” the
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`appliance data. Otherwise, monitor 34 could not send that data to the ‘outside
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`world’ host computer.”
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`According to the Patent Owner, the “outside world” host computer receives
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`information indicative of an appliance’s state. Paper 16, p. 8. If, as alleged by the
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`Patent Owner, the “outside world” is receiving information indicative of the state
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`of an appliance, then the “data” must be in monitor 34 before it is transmitted.
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`That is, monitor 34 stores the data indicative of the state of an appliance.
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`The Patent Owner argues that the data in claim 33 is “representative of a
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`current state of an intended target appliance,” and “the data” in claim 49 refers to
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`data that reflects “a state of the intended target appliance.” Paper 16, p. 8. The
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`Patent Owner admits that data is “periodically” sent to the “outside world” host
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`computer. Paper 16, p. 6, lines 4-6. The last data transmitted would be the most
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`current data stored in monitor 34 and transmitted. Thus, clearly Cohen discloses
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`data stored in monitor 34 that would correspond to the “data” in claims 33 and 49.
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`It is also clear that Cohen discloses that “the data is maintained locally
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`within a device which receives the transmission,” as recited in claim 33, since
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`monitor 34 would have to have the data locally before it is transmitted to the
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`“outside world” host computer. Similarly, Cohen clearly discloses that “the data is
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`maintained locally within the transmission monitoring device”, as recited in claim
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`49, since monitor 34 would have to have the data locally before it is transmitted to
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`the “outside world” host computer.
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`It should be further noted that since claims 33 and 49 are anticipated by
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`Cohen as described above, claims 27 and 35 are also anticipated.
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`VII. Conclusion
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`As described above and in the Petition filed June 30, 2015, and consistent
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`with the Board’s Decision dated January 9, 2015, claims 27, 28, 33, 35, 45, and 49
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