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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY, AGFA CORPORATION,
`ESKO SOFTWARE BVBA, and HEIDELBERG, USA
`Petitioners
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`V.
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`CTP INNOVATIONS, LLC
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`Patent Owner
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`Case IPR2014—00791
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`Patent 6,611,349
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`DECLARATION OF W. EDWARD RAMAGE
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`I, W. Edward Ramage, under penalty of perjury, declare as follows:
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`1.
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`I am lead counsel of record for the Patent Owner in the above-
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`identiiied IPR proceeding.
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`2.
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`On March 26, 2015,
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`I
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`took the deposition of Mr. Suetens.
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`The
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`transcript ofhis deposition testimony has been filed as Exhibit 2016.
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`3.
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`Based upon Mr. Suetens' deposition testimony, on April 2, 2015,
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`I
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`filed a Motion to Exclude Evidence (Paper No. 23). The motion sought to exclude
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`the Declaration of Johan Suetens and attachments (Ex. 1023) and the m
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`Apogee: The PDF—based Production System brochure (“Apogee”) (filed as Ex.
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`1008 and as Attachment A to Ex. 1023).
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`4.
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`On April 16, 2015,
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`I received a communication from counsel for
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`Petitioners with copies of a Supplemental Declaration of Johan Suetens and a
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`Declaration of Michael Jahn, which Petitioners prOposed to submit as supplemental
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`evidence.
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`5.
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`On April 20, 2015, I served my written objections to the Supplemental
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`Declaration of Johan Suetens and a Declaration of Michael Jahn (a true and correct
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`cepy of my written objections is attached hereto as Attachment A).
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`In my
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`objections,
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`I specifically pointed out that the declarations did not appear to be
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`evidence,
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`claimed by Petitioners, but
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`instead comprised
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`supplemental information.
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`6.
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`I make this declaration of my own personal knowledge.
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`If called to
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`testify as to the truth of the matter stated herein,
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`I could and would testify
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`competently.
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`7.
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`I declare under penalty of perjury that
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`the foregoing is true and
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`correct.
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`Executed this fl day of June, 2015, at Nashville, TN.
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`Scott A. McKeown
`Michael L. Kikiis
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`Oblon, LLP
`1940 Duke Street
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`Alexandria, VA 22314
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`April 20. 2015
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`Via Email and US. Mail
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`RE:
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`Eastman Kodak Co, et (11. v. CTP Innovations, LLC: [PR Nos. 2014-788, 2014-789,
`2014-790 and 20(4-791
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`Messrs. McKeown and Kiklis:
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`It is unclear, however, whether the
`We have received your communication of April 16, 2015.
`response is intended to be a response to Patent Owner‘s Motions to Exclude or to Patent Owner‘s
`Responses. both of which were filed in each proceeding on April 2, 2015. As a preliminary matter, we
`note that Petitioners’ characterization of either of these filings as an “Objection to Evidence” is
`inaccurate and procedurally impermissible.
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`If the response is intended to be a response to the Motions to Exclude, it is improper. The two
`declarations (including a third declaration as an exhibit
`to one of those declarations)
`in your
`communications purport to comprise “supplemental
`information."
`In truth, Petitioners are actually
`attempting to introduce entirely new evidence,
`including, but not limited to, entirely new art. Such
`introduction in either a response to a motion to exclude or a reply to a response is not permitted by any
`rule or precedent of the Patent Trial and Appeal Board (“PTAB”). Moreover, Petitioners are attempting
`to introduce this new evidence (notwithstanding its inadmissibility on other grounds) after Patent Owner
`submitted its responses and after discovery has closed. Not only is the submission of new evidence in
`the manner attempted by Petitioners a violation of PTAB rules and orders in all of the pending
`proceedings. such submissions are a fundamental attempt to deny Patent Owner its due process rights.
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`The rules do not permit ad seriatim introductions of new evidence. which is exactly what you are
`attempting to do here. PTAB‘S rules are very clear that you must present your evidence up front at the
`time of filing of a petition. Petitioners had ample time and Opportunity to include these declarations and
`other evidence in support of the petitions, and that time has passed. Accordingly,
`to the extent that
`Petitioners may attempt
`to file the declarations and attachments as supplemental
`information or
`evidence, we will oppose their introduction, and will move to strike, exclude or expunge, as appropriate.
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`ATTACHMENT A
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`In addition to failing to be compliant with the rules and due process rights, Petitioners
`“supplemental information”. including new Suetens and Jahn Declarations and all exhibits thereto. also
`are facially defective for at least the following evidentiary reasons:
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`information. Suetens’ Supplemental
`in addition to comprising imprOper supplemental
`1.
`Declaration fails to solve the evidentiary issues created by his contradictory declaration testimony.
`declaration exhibits, and deposition testimony. First. Ms. Suetens states that he has been educated by
`other Agfa personnel whom he relies on. Mr. Suetens, therefore. lacks knowledge as is required by Rule
`602 of the Federal Rules of Evidence. Moreover, his statements and those that he attempts to introduce
`from others are hearsay under Rule 80] and not subject to any exception to hearsay. Therefore. such
`statements violated Rule 802. Furthermore, Mr. Suetens has not solved the authentication issues with
`regard to the Apogee reference - namely. that it was disseminated or otherwise made publicly available.
`Finally. paragraphs 3—15 are irrelevant to establishing a prior art printed publication date. and thus are
`inadmissible under Rule 401. Mr. Suetens' additional exhibits to his Supplemental Declaration softer
`the same flaws.
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`In additional to comprising improper supplemental information, the Jahn Declaration contains
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`statements - particularly paragraphs 8—28- that constitute hearsay or are wholly irrelevant to establishing
`a prior art printed publication date for the Apogee reference submitted to PTAB. The exhibits to the
`Jahn Declaration are likewise wholly irrelevant, demonstrate a lack of personal knowledge. and
`constitute hearsay. Therefore. the Jahn declaration and the exhibits thereto are not admissible under
`Fed. R. Evid. 401. 602. and 802.
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`is unnecessary and not required under the rules for Patent Owner to
`Accordingly, although it
`object to the supplemental declarations and statements made therein and exhibits thereto (including
`without
`limitation exhibits that are declarations that have exhibits). Patent Owner objects to the
`introduction of the aforementioned declarations and exhibits and will
`immediately move to strike,
`exclude, Ell'lCUOI' expunge such declarations and exhibits and any other document filed with PTAB that so
`references those declarations or exhibits.
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`Sincerely,
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`{sf W. Edward Ramage
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`W. Edward Ramage
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`cc:
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`CTP Innovations. LLC
`Samuel F. Miller
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`L. Clint Crosby
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`The undersigned hereby certifies that, on June 11, 2015,
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`the foregoing
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`Declaration (including attachments thereto) was served in its entirety via US.
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`Express Mail, postage prepaid, and electronic mail upon the following:
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`Scott A. MeKeown
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`OBLON, SPIVAK, MCCLELLAND,
`MAIER & NEUSTADT, LLP.
`1940 Duke Street
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`Alexandria, VA 223 14
`Tel: (703) 412—6297
`Fax: (703) 413-2220
`Email: cpdocketmckeown@obl011.com
`cpdocketkiklis@oblon.com
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`IW. Edward Rama e/
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`W. Edward Ramage, Reg. No. 50,810
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