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`Filed: May 26, 2015
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`WEBASTO ROOF SYSTEMS, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`UUSI, LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2014-00648
`Patent 8,217,612
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`PETITIONER’S MOTION TO EXCLUDE THE OPINION TESTIMONY
`OF DR. MARK EHSANI AND INADMISSIBLE EXHIBITS
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`Attorney Docket: 130163.231151
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`TABLE OF CONTENTS
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`I.
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`II.
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`Statement of Material Facts ............................................................................. 2
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`Legal Standards for Excluding Expert Testimony .......................................... 3
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`III. Dr. Ehsani’s Opinions Should be Excluded Because He Applied the
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`Presumption of Validity ................................................................................... 4
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`IV. Dr. Ehsani’s Opinions Should be Excluded Because He Applied
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`Erroneous Methodology to Interpret the Challenged Claims .......................... 7
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`V. Dr. Ehsani Resisted Answering Basic Questions, Acting As an
`Advocate Rather Than an Expert................................................................... 10
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`VI. Petitioner’'s Unexplained and Inadmissible Exhibits Should be
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`Excluded ........................................................................................................ 15
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`TABLE OF AUTHORITIES
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`Bolin v. Chappell,
`No. 1:99-cv-05279, 2012 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 179745
`(E.D. Cal. Dec. 19, 2012) (Ex. 1032) ................................................................... 4
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`Boltar, L.L.C. v. Comm’r of Internal Revenue,
`136 TC 326 (T.C. 2011)........................................................................................ 4
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`Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharm., Inc.,
`509 U.S. 579 (1993) .............................................................................................. 3
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`Global Tel*Link Corp. v. Securus Techs., Inc.,
`IPR2014-00824, Paper 9 (Dec. 8, 2014)............................................................... 4
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`Medicines Co. v. Mylan, Inc.,
`No. 11-cv-1285, 2014 WL 1227214 (N.D. Ill. Mar. 25, 2014) .................... 4, 6, 8
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`Microsoft Corp. v. i4i Ltd. P’ship,
`131 S. Ct. 2238 (2011) .......................................................................................... 4
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`Pacific Coast Marine Windshields Ltd. v. Malibu Boats, LLC,
`No. 6:12-cv-00033, Slip. Op. (M.D. Fla. Jan. 4, 2013) (Ex. 1033) .................. 6, 8
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`Phillips v. AWH Corp.,
`415 F.3d 1303 (Fed. Cir. 2005) (en banc) ........................................................ 7, 8
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`RF Controls, LLC v. A-1 Packaging Solutions, Inc.,
`IPR2015-00119, Paper 15 (Apr. 29, 2015) ........................................................4, 5
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`Seaboard Lumber Co. v. U.S.,
`308 F.3d 1283 (Fed. Cir. 2002) ............................................................................ 4
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`Webasto Roof Sys., Inc. v. UUSI, LLC,
`IPR2014-00648, Paper 14 (Oct. 17, 2014) ....................................................... 5, 7
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`W.L. Gore & Assoc., Inc. v. Lifeport Sci. LLC,
`IPR2014-01320, Paper 7 (Feb. 25, 2015) ............................................................. 5
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`Statutes
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`35 U.S.C. § 282 .......................................................................................................... 5
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`35 U.S.C. § 316 .......................................................................................................... 4
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`37 C.F.R. § 42.22 ..................................................................................................... 15
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`37 C.F.R. § 42.62 ....................................................................................................... 3
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`Federal Rule of Evidence 702 ...........................................................................passim
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`Petitioner moves to exclude paragraphs 6, 41, 46, 54, 66–68, 77–81, 88–89,
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`91–98, 100–04, 110–11, 114–16, 118–27, 129–31, 137–39, 145, 148, 150–56, 159,
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`162–63, 165, and 169–83 of the Declaration of Dr. Mark Ehsani in Support of
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`Patent Owner’s Response (Ex. 2001).1 This opinion testimony should be excluded
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`under Federal Rule of Evidence 702 for three principal reasons. First, Dr. Ehsani
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`applied the wrong legal standard in reaching his opinions, incorrectly presuming
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`that the challenged claims were valid. Second, Dr. Ehsani did not apply reliable
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`principles and methods in reaching his opinions. For example, he analyzed the
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`preferred embodiment and did not determine whether the claims could be
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`interpreted to cover more than this embodiment. Third, Dr. Ehsani resisted
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`answering basic questions, acting as an advocate rather than an expert required to
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`reliably apply reliable principles and methods to the issues in this proceeding.
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`Petitioner also moves to exclude Patent Owner’s exhibits that have not been
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`referenced in Patent Owner’s arguments—Exhibits 2009–10, 2012–13, 2017,
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`2022, and 2036—because such unexplained evidence should not be permitted to
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`clutter the record in this proceeding and any potential appeal. Moreover, Exhibit
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`2008 should be excluded because it is inadmissible hearsay offered by a third party
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`1 Petitioner has filed very similar motions in IPR2014-00648, -00649, and -00650.
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`The main substantive difference among the motions is the identification of the
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`paragraphs and exhibits which Petitioner moves to exclude.
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`in a different proceeding, and similarly paragraphs 169–70 of Dr. Ehsani’s
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`declaration also should be excluded because they respond to this inadmissible
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`exhibit.
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`I.
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`STATEMENT OF MATERIAL FACTS
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`1.
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`Paragraphs 6, 41, 46, 54, 66–68, 77–81, 88–89, 91–98, 100–04, 110–
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`11, 114–16, 118–27, 129–31, 137–39, 145, 148, 150–56, 159, 162–63, 165, and
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`169–83 of Dr. Ehsani’s declaration (Ex. 2001) were identified in Petitioner’s
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`objections timely served on Patent Owner, pursuant to the applicable rules at the
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`time of Petitioner’s objections. Ex. 1031.
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`2.
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`Dr. Ehsani testified that he applied a presumption of validity for the
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`purposes of his analysis. Ex. 1023 at 3 (211:19–212:17).
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`3.
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`Dr. Ehsani testified that he analyzed the preferred embodiment and
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`could not determine whether patent claims should be interpreted more broadly than
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`the preferred embodiment. Ex. 1022 at 17 (64:3–14).
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`4.
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`Dr. Ehsani testified that sub-step (d)(3) is not part of step (d) in claim
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`1 of U.S. Patent No. 8,217,612 (“the ’612 patent”). Ex. 1022 at 13 (46:8–12).
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`5.
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`Dr. Ehsani resisted answering questions about the patent specification,
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`his interpretation of the claims, and what would be required to satisfy the claims
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`under his interpretation. Ex. 1022 at 2–6, 21 (5:14–7:19, 8:5–18:20, 78:3–10,
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`78:12–80:6); Ex. 1023 at 7–8 (228:13–232:8).
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`6.
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`Exhibits 2008–10, 2012–13, 2017, 2022, and 2036 were identified in
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`Petitioner’s timely served objections. Ex. 1031.
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`7.
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`Exhibits 2009–10, 2012–13, 2017, 2022, and 2036 were not
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`referenced in Patent Owner’s Response or Dr. Ehsani’s declaration in support of
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`that Response. Paper 20; Ex. 2001.
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`8.
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`Exhibit 2008 was offered by a third party in a different proceeding.
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`II. LEGAL STANDARDS FOR EXCLUDING EXPERT TESTIMONY
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`The Federal Rules of Evidence apply here. 37 C.F.R. § 42.62(a). Rule 702
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`sets forth the conditions for admissibility of expert witness testimony:
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`A witness who is qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill,
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`experience, training, or education may testify in the form of an
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`opinion or otherwise if:
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`(a) the expert’s scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge
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`will help the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to
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`determine a fact in issue;
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`(b) the testimony is based on sufficient facts or data;
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`(c) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods; and
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`(d) the expert has reliably applied the principles and methods to the
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`facts of the case.
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`Fed. R. Evid. 702; see also Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharm., Inc., 509 U.S. 579,
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`589–95 (1993).
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`While judges sitting in bench trials need not screen evidence prior to its
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`submission to the factfinder, ultimately the Daubert standards must be met.
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`Seaboard Lumber Co. v. U.S., 308 F.3d 1283, 1301–02 (Fed. Cir. 2002). Even in
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`bench trials, testimony that fails to meet the standards of Rule 702 is properly
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`excluded. See, e.g., Medicines Co. v. Mylan, Inc., No. 11-cv-1285, 2014 WL
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`1227214, at *4–5 (N.D. Ill. Mar. 25, 2014) (excluding expert testimony before a
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`bench trial in a proceeding involving an Abbreviated New Drug Application);
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`Bolin v. Chappell, No. 1:99-cv-05279, 2012 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 179745 (E.D. Cal.
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`Dec. 19, 2012) (excluding expert testimony before an evidentiary hearing)
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`(Ex. 1032); Boltar, L.L.C. v. Comm’r of Internal Revenue, 136 TC 326, 333–40
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`(T.C. 2011) (excluding expert testimony after a bench trial).
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`III. DR. EHSANI’S OPINIONS SHOULD BE EXCLUDED BECAUSE HE
`APPLIED THE PRESUMPTION OF VALIDITY
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`“There is no presumption of validity as to the challenged claims in an inter
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`partes review [IPR].” Global Tel*Link Corp. v. Securus Techs., Inc., IPR2014-
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`00824, Paper 9 at 21 (Dec. 8, 2014); see also RF Controls, LLC v. A-1 Packaging
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`Solutions, Inc., IPR2015-00119, Paper 15 at 9 (Apr. 29, 2015) (“[i]n an inter partes
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`proceeding there is no presumption of validity” (citation omitted)). The absence of
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`this presumption has consequences for both the burden of proof for invalidity and
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`claim interpretation. With respect to the burden of proof, a petitioner need only
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`prove unpatentability “by a preponderance of the evidence” in IPR proceedings,
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`rather than by clear and convincing evidence. Compare 35 U.S.C. § 316(e) with
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`Microsoft Corp. v. i4i Ltd. P’ship, 131 S. Ct. 2238, 2242 (2011) (holding that the
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`presumption of validity set forth in 35 U.S.C. § 282 requires proof by clear and
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`convincing evidence).
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`Since there is no presumption of validity, claims also are not construed in
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`IPR proceedings with an aim to preserve their validity. RF Controls, Paper 15 at 9
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`(“we will not be applying a rule of construction with an aim to preserve the validity
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`of the claims”). As the Board recognized in this proceeding, claims are not
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`construed with a presumption of validity even where, as here, the claims have
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`expired. Webasto Roof Sys., Inc. v. UUSI, LLC, IPR2014-00648, Paper 14 at 7
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`(Oct. 17, 2014); see also W.L. Gore & Assoc., Inc. v. Lifeport Sci. LLC, IPR2014-
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`01320, Paper 7 at 8 (Feb. 25, 2015).
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`Dr. Ehsani, however, testified that he applied a presumption of validity for
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`purposes of his analysis here:
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`Q. Based on the fact that the claims of Nartron’s patents were
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`issued by the U.S. Patent Office, did you believe that a presumption
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`of validity applied for the purposes of your analysis?
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`A. That’s my understanding that U.S. Patent Office is a reliable
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`source. It does due diligence with the help of the inventor. The
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`inventor is obliged to bring to the attention of the examiner all the
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`prior art that is relevant and sort out the distinction between his or her
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`patent and the prior art.
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`And the – the U.S. examiner will also independently, through
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`his own resources and expertise, bring to bear other prior art, and that
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`going through that exercise, which is rather rigorous, produces a fairly
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`substantial prosecution history and – and record and most often
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`modification and – and settlement on – on specific claims – claims.
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`Through that laborious process, the patent is finally issued, and
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`it is presumed to be valid, unless otherwise legally established.
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`Q. And did you apply what you just mentioned in your prior
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`answer for purposes of your analysis in this proceeding?
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`A. Yes, sir.
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`Ex. 1023 at 3 (211:19–212:17) (emphasis added). This testimony is
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`uncontroverted. Patent Owner stated no objection at the deposition and made no
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`attempt to rehabilitate Dr. Ehsani on this point. Furthermore, Dr. Ehsani’s
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`declaration does not address the presumption of validity he evidently applied or
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`any understanding of the burdens in this proceeding. Ex. 2001 at 18–21 (¶¶ 28–
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`35).
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`Because Dr. Ehsani applied the presumption of validity, and therefore
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`interpreted the challenged claims from the wrong perspective and applied the
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`wrong burden of proof in reaching his opinions, his opinion testimony is
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`unreliable. His legally flawed opinions in the identified paragraphs therefore
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`should be excluded. In Medicines Co., the district court excluded the testimony of
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`an expert who applied the wrong legal standard in opining on commercial success
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`in advance of a bench trial, and Dr. Ehsani’s testimony applying the wrong legal
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`standard similarly should be excluded here. 2014 WL 1227214, at *4–5; see also
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`Pacific Coast Marine Windshields Ltd. v. Malibu Boats, LLC, No. 6:12-cv-00033,
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`Slip. Op. at 19–23 (M.D. Fla. Jan. 4, 2013) (Ex. 1033) (excluding expert opinions
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`about a design patent where the expert improperly relied on the “point of novelty”
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`test rejected by the Federal Circuit).
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`IV. DR. EHSANI’S OPINIONS SHOULD BE EXCLUDED BECAUSE HE
`APPLIED ERRONEOUS METHODOLOGY TO INTERPRET THE
`CHALLENGED CLAIMS
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`The patent-at-issue has expired, and therefore the claims must be interpreted
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`under Phillips v. AWH Corp., 415 F.3d 1303 (Fed. Cir. 2005) (en banc); Webasto
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`Roof Sys., IPR2014-00648, Paper 14 at 7. Under Phillips, claim terms should be
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`interpreted in view of “the words of the claims themselves, the remainder of the
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`specification, the prosecution history, and extrinsic evidence concerning relevant
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`scientific principles, the meaning of technical terms, and the state of the art.” 415
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`F.3d at 1314 (internal quotation marks omitted). The Federal Circuit cautioned
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`that claims generally should not be confined to a preferred embodiment:
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`[W]e have repeatedly warned against confining the claims to those
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`embodiments. In particular, we have expressly rejected the contention
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`that if a patent describes only a single embodiment, the claims of the
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`patent must be construed as being limited to that embodiment. That is
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`not just because section 112 of the Patent Act requires that the claims
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`themselves set forth the limits of the patent grant, but also because
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`persons of ordinary skill in the art rarely would confine their definitions
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`of terms to the exact representations depicted in the embodiments.
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`Id. at 1323.
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`Dr. Ehsani expressly disclaimed performing the analysis required by
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`Phillips, explaining that he could not understand if the claims might be interpreted
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`more broadly than the preferred embodiment: “I’m not a lawyer to understand
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`interpretation outside of the preferred embodiment by the patent. I have
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`analyzed the preferred embodiment. I cannot tell if the patent can be interpreted
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`more broadly than that.” Ex. 1022 at 17 (64:3–14) (emphasis added and
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`interruption omitted). Dr. Ehsani volunteered this testimony. There was neither an
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`objection at his deposition nor any attempt to address this issue during redirect
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`examination. Furthermore, Dr. Ehsani’s declaration provides no contrary
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`testimony because he did not address the legal standards he applied for purposes of
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`claim interpretation. Thus, his testimony that he failed to heed the Federal
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`Circuit’s warning against confining the claims to the preferred embodiment, see
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`Phillips, 415 F.3d at 1323, stands uncontroverted.
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`Since Dr. Ehsani’s testimony about what the patent claims require in
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`interpreting them and applying the prior art to them is the product of his legally
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`erroneous method of confining them to the preferred embodiment, his testimony
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`should be excluded as unreliable. Fed. R. Evid. 702; see also Medicines Co., 2014
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`WL 1227214, at *4–5; Pacific Coast Marine Windshields Ltd., Slip. Op. at 19–23
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`(Ex. 1033).
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`There is also further evidence that Dr. Ehsani’s approach to interpreting the
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`patent claims was unreliable. For example, sub-step (d)(3) in claim 1 of the ’612
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`patent is clearly part of step (d), as shown below:
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`1. Apparatus for controlling activation of a motor coupled to a
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`motor vehicle window or panel …, said apparatus comprising:
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`…
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`d) a controller having an interface coupled to the sensor and the
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`switch for controllably energizing the motor; said controller
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`sensing a collision with an obstruction when power is applied to
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`the controller by:
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`i) monitoring movement of the window or panel …;
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`ii) adjusting an obstacle detection threshold in real time …;
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`iii) identifying a collision of the window or panel with an
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`obstacle due to a change in the signal from the sensor that is
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`related to a change in movement of the window or panel by
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`comparing a value based on a most recent signal from the
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`sensor with the obstacle detection threshold; and
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`iv) outputting a control signal ….
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`Ex. 1001 at 25 (27:12–43) (emphasis added).
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`However, Dr. Ehsani disagreed that sub-step (d)(3) was part of step (d),
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`which is plainly contrary to the structure of the claim itself:
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`Q. Dr. Ehsani, I’m asking you in the expert opinion that you’ve
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`applied for purposes of your analysis in these proceedings, do you
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`agree that step D3 is a substep of step D of Claim 1 of the ’612
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`patent?
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`A. No, sir, I don’t agree with that.
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`Ex. 1022 at 13 (46:8–12) (emphasis added). Dr. Ehsani construed patent claims
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`contrary to the structure set forth by their plain language, and this is an additional
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`reason that his testimony should be excluded as unreliable. Fed. R. Evid. 702.
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`V. DR. EHSANI RESISTED ANSWERING BASIC QUESTIONS,
`ACTING AS AN ADVOCATE RATHER THAN AN EXPERT
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`On several occasions at his deposition, Dr. Ehsani resisted answering basic
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`questions about the patents. He appeared concerned about making admissions that
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`might not be helpful to Patent Owner’s positions and avoided providing an answer.
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`While the Board can assess such behavior in assessing the Dr. Ehsani’s credibility,
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`Petitioner raises this basis for exclusion because Rule 702 requires that a witness
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`provide testimony from an expert perspective that “will help the trier of fact” to be
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`admissible; testimony of an advocate is not admissible evidence. Fed. R. Evid.
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`702. Petitioner provides a few examples of Dr. Ehsani’s resistance to answering
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`basic questions below.
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`The ’612 patent does not disclose an example of an algorithm that was
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`implemented by the inventors (see generally Ex. 1001), but Dr. Ehsani would not
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`acknowledge this. Ex. 1022 at 2–3 (5:14–7:19). While he disagreed, he resisted
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`identifying what he believed to constitute such disclosure, as illustrated by this
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`Q. Does the ’612 patent disclose that algorithm was implemented?
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`A. My understanding is a patent is not a reporting of past events,
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`in the past or not.
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`It is not the way I read a patent.
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`Q. Okay. You’ve answered a different question, which is how you
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`read a question patent.
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`My question is – could I please have my question read back?
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`(Reporter read requested material)
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`A. Again, my understanding is that you’re asking me that there is
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`the reporting of an event in time.
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`I have to read the patent over to see if a reporting was done. I
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`read their patent for the disclosure of the invention, and its
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`embodiment in the specifications.
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`I have not read the patent, or at least I don’t – I have to read it
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`over again to see if it reports events of the past. It may be there. It
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`may not be there.
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`My understanding is that patents are not written about – you
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`don’t – you don’t patent events. You patent methods and apparatus.
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`Q. Let me make this very simple.
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`If you believe that the ’612 discloses an example of an
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`algorithm that was implemented, please give me the column and line
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`numbers where you believe that disclosure is in the patent.
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`A. As I mentioned to you, the disclosures, as I read them, are
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`enabling for the claims that it has listed.
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`My understanding is that it is not necessary for someone to
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`have actually built one or not.
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`I have to read the whole patent to – I have actually never read a
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`patent that said we did this and we did it on such and such date and it
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`was nice or anything like that. So a description of an event in the
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`laboratory is probably not in this patent.
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`But if you are asking me the implication that the person was in
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`possession of the patent at the time of filing, I believe the answer is,
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`yes.
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`Id. at 3 (8:5–9:21). When specifically asked again to identify by column and line
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`number the disclosure that he believed to constitute an example of an algorithm
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`that was implemented, Dr. Ehsani continued to resist answering the question. Id. at
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`3–4 (9:22–11:3). Finally, he took an hour to review the patent and read aloud
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`various portions of the patent, none of which were responsive to the question.2 Id.
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`at 4–5 (11:4–15:18). When asked about the very first passage he identified, he
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`could not identify an example of an algorithm that was implemented in that
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`disclosure. Id. at 5–6 (15:19–18:20).
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`As another example, Dr. Ehsani would not answer whether in his view the
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`term “sensing” has the same meaning in all claims of U.S. Patent No. 7,548,037
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`(“the ’037 patent,” Ex. 1034), and the extended colloquy ended as follows:
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`Q. … For purposes of your analysis in this proceeding, did you
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`2 Petitioner is requesting permission to submit a video excerpt of the deposition so
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`that the Board can see Dr. Ehsani’s testimony discussed herein, as well as the time-
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`interpret the term “sensing” in Claim 1 of the ’037 patent in the same
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`way that you interpreted the term “sensing” in Claim 13 of the ’037
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`patent?
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`A. Not necessarily.
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`Q. Did you apply a different meaning for sensing in Claim 1 of the
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`’037 patent than the meaning you provided for the term “sensing” in
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`Claim 13 of the ’037 patent for purposes of reaching your opinions in
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`this matter?
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`A. Only to the extent that I have reported.
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`Q. So if it’s not in your report, you haven’t considered it?
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`A. That’s not what I said.
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`Ex. 1023 at 8 (231:21–232:8); see also id. at 7–8 (228:17–231:20).
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`As a third example, Dr. Ehsani would not answer whether in his view claim
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`5 of the ’612 patent is satisfied where sometimes all immediate past measurements
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`are sensed within 40 ms and sometimes all immediate past measurements used to
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`detect an obstacle are sensed in more than 40 ms:3
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`Q. … If sometimes all of the immediate past measurements used
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`to sense an obstacle are sensed within 40 milliseconds and sometimes
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`all the immediate past measurements are used to sense an obstacle are
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`taken in more than 40 milliseconds, does that satisfy Claim 5?
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`3 Claim 5 recites: “The apparatus of claim 1 wherein the immediate past
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`measurements of said signal are sensed within a forty millisecond interval prior to
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`the most recent signal from the sensor.” Ex. 1001 at 25 (28:4–6).
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`A. That’s a legal question, and I don’t think I’ve opined upon in
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`that report. I consider that a hypothetical question.
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`Obviously, it’s legally of great value to you or you wouldn’t
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`ask it, and it’s outside my competence to answer it in a legal sense.
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`So I will answer it with those assumptions – that it’s
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`hypothetical.
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`Q. No.
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`A. And is unrelated to the patent and you’re asking me to
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`hypothesize.
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`Q. (BY MR. SANDERS) …
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`If sometimes all the immediate past measurements used to
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`sense an obstacle are sensed within 40 milliseconds, and sometimes
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`all the immediate past measurements used to sense an obstacle are
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`taken in more than 40 milliseconds, does that satisfy Claim 5?
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`A. Sir, I answer the questions the way I see fit and I’m free to do
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`so, and you’re neither allowed to reinterpret, recharacterize or
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`interrupt it.
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`I answer the question that I understand and I think you’re
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`entitled ask. I’m entitled to answer. You’re not entitled to architect
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`my answers, number one.
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`Number two, where does that question come from? Is that
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`related to anything here? I need to know that. Is this from my report?
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`Is this from the patent? Is this from your imagination? Where is it
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`coming from?
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`If you don’t want to answer that, I accept that too.
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`In the realm of hypothesis, it’s either in my report or it is
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`related to this patent or it’s not. You’re not telling me where it’s
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`coming and I assume it is hypothetical and I will answer it in that
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`context.
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`Now, you’re welcome to correct me if that assumption is wrong
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`by telling me where do you get sometimes inside 40 milliseconds,
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`sometimes outside 40.
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`Where do you get that.
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`Is that a hypothetical thing or does it come someplace that –
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`that we have reported to you.
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`Ex. 1022 at 21 (78:3–80:6).
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`VI. PETITIONER’S UNEXPLAINED AND INADMISSIBLE EXHIBITS
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`Patent Owner was required to provide “a detailed explanation of the
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`significance of the evidence.” 37 C.F.R. § 42.22(a)(2). However, Patent Owner
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`has not addressed Exhibits 2009–10, 2012–13, 2017, 2022, and 2036, and therefore
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`those exhibits should be excluded. Exhibit 2008 should be excluded because it is
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`inadmissible hearsay from a witness for a different petitioner in a different
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`proceeding, and paragraphs 169–70 of Dr. Ehsani’s declaration also should be
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`excluded on the basis that they respond to this inadmissible exhibit.
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`Dated: May 26, 2015
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`/Charles H. Sanders/
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`Appendix – List of Exhibits
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`Exhibit
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`Description
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`1001
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`U.S. Patent No. 8,217,612 to Boisvert et al.
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`1002
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`Prosecution History of U.S. Patent No. 8,217,612
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`1003
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`Declaration of Hamid A. Toliyat, Ph.D.
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`1004
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`Appendix A to the Declaration of Hamid A. Toliyat, Ph.D.:
`Dr. Toliyat’s curriculum vitae.
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`1005
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`U.K. Published Patent Application GB 2 026 723 to Bernard et al.
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`1006
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`U.S. Patent No. 4,870,333 to Itoh et al.
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`1007
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`U.S. Patent No. 4,468,596 to Kinzl
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`1008
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`Translation of German Published Patent Application DE4000730A1
`to Lamm et al.
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`1009
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`U.S. Patent No. 5,218,282 to Duhame
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`1010
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`U.S. Patent No. 4,831,509 to Jones et al.
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`1011
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`49 CFR Part 571.118 (December 2, 1971)
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`1012
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`Safety Commission Publishes Final Rules for Garage Door Openers,
`U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (Dec. 3, 1992)
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`1013
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`U.S. Patent No. 5,334,876 to Washeleski et al.
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`1014
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`U.S. Patent No. 3,513,374 to Koment
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`1015
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`U.S. Patent No. 3,651,389 to Ito et al.
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`1016
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`Excerpt from Plaintiff UUSI, LLC, d/b/a Nartron’s Disclosure of
`Asserted Claims and Infringement Contentions and Infringement
`Contentions Chart for the ’612 Patent (Feb. 18, 2014)
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`Description
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`1017
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`German Published Patent Application DE4000730A1 to Lamm et al.
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`1018
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`Certification of Translation of German Published Patent Application
`DE4000730A1 to Lamm et al.
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`1019
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`U.S. Patent No. 6,064,165 to Boisvert et al.
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`1020
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`49 CFR Part 571.118 (April 16, 1991)
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`1021
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`Reply Declaration of Dr. Toliyat
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`1022
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`Transcript of the Deposition of Dr. Ehsani (March 13, 2015)
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`1023
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`Transcript of the Deposition of Dr. Ehsani (March 14, 2015)
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`1024
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`1025
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`1026
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`1027
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`1028
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`1029
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`Exhibit 1 of the Deposition of Dr. Ehsani (March 13, 2015),
`handwritten notes by Dr. Ehsani
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`Exhibit 2 of the Deposition of Dr. Ehsani (March 13, 2015),
`handwritten notes by Dr. Ehsani
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`Exhibit 3 of the Deposition of Dr. Ehsani (March 14, 2015),
`Patent Owner’s Preliminary Response in IPR2014-00649
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`Exhibit 4 of the Deposition of Dr. Ehsani (March 14, 2015),
`excerpt of U.S. Patent No. 7,548,037 with handwritten notes by Dr.
`Ehsani
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`Exhibit 5 of the Deposition of Dr. Ehsani (March 14, 2015),
`U.S. Patent No. 7,077,462 to De Gaillard
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`Exhibit 6 of the Deposition of Dr. Ehsani (March 14, 2015),
`handwritten notes by Dr. Ehsani
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`1030
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`Prosecution History of U.S. Patent No. 7,579,802
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`1031
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`Petitioner’s Objections to Evidence Submitted with Patent Owner’s
`Response to the Petition
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`1032
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`Description
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`Bolin v. Chappell, No. 1:99-cv-05279, 2012 U.S. Dist. LEXIS
`179745 (E.D. Cal. Dec. 19, 2012)
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`1033
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`Pacific Coast Marine Windshields Ltd. v. Malibu Boats, LLC,
`No. 6:12-cv-00033, Slip. Op. (M.D. Fla. Jan. 4, 2013)
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`1034
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`U.S. Patent No. 7,548,037 to Boisvert et al.
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`The undersigned hereby certifies that a copy of the foregoing Petitioner’s
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`Motion to Exclude the Opinion Testimony of Dr. Mark Ehsani and Inadmissible
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`Exhibits and the exhibits thereto (Exhibits 1031–1034) were served on May 26,
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`2015, by email directed to the attorneys of record for Patent Owner at the
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`following addresses:
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`Monte L. Falcoff (mlfalcoff@hdp.com)
`Hemant M. Keskar (hkeskar@hdp.com)
`HARNESS, DICKEY & PIERCE, P.L.C.
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`Dated: May 26, 2015
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`/Charles H. Sanders/
`Charles H. Sanders
`Reg. No.: 47,053
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