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` Entered: September 18, 2014
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`AMERICAN VEHICULAR SCIENCES LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2014-00634
`Patent 6,738,697 B2
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`Before JAMESON LEE, BARBARA A. PARVIS, and
`GREGG I. ANDERSON, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`LEE, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Conduct of Proceedings
`37 C.F.R. § 42.5
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`IPR2014-00634
`Patent 6,738,697 B2
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`On September 17, 2014, an initial conference call was held. The
`participants were respective counsel for the parties and Judges Lee, Parvis,
`and Anderson. Only Petitioner filed a list of proposed motions. Paper 11.
`During the conference call, counsel for the parties indicated that the parties
`do not have a need to change Due Date 6 or Due Date 7 as set in the
`Scheduling Order dated August 26, 2014 (Paper 9), but will stipulate to
`different Due Date 1–5 as is authorized in the Scheduling Order.
`Petitioner’s list of proposed motions identifies a single item, i.e.,
`authorization for filing a Motion for Additional Discovery of deposition
`transcripts and other testimony from “other IPR proceedings involving
`related patents owned by American Vehicular Sciences (‘AVS’).” The
`request is overbroad for several reasons. First, counsel for Petitioner
`explained, during the conference call, that “related patents” means all of
`Patent Owner’s patents now involved in an inter partes review proceeding;
`that position fails to consider the substantive content of each patent. Second,
`counsel for Petitioner acknowledged that he has no reason to think that such
`material would be favorable in substantive content to any of Petitioner’s
`contentions. Third, there are other sources for the requested material, such
`as the Petitioner in the other proceedings. In response to our noting that the
`request is overbroad, counsel for Petitioner withdrew the sole request
`identified in its list of proposed motions.
`Petitioner’s list of proposed motions also states: “Honda reserves its
`right pursuant to 77 Fed. Reg. 48765 to seek authorization from the Board to
`file additional motions as appropriate.” Paper 11, 2. We explained to the
`parties that if a party has the right to take certain action, it need not make a
`reservation for that right, and that if a party does not have the right to take
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`certain action, none would be created by reservation. We noted that such
`reservations of right are not helpful and tend only to add cost and confusion
`to the proceeding by requiring specific attention of the opposing party and
`the Board to check if anything meaningful is embedded in the assertion.
`Counsel for Petitioner agreed to refrain from attempting to “reserve” rights.
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`We advised counsel for each party that a proper Motion to Exclude
`Evidence should not include arguments alleging that a reply exceeds the
`scope of a proper reply. If such an issue arises, the parties should initiate a
`telephone conference call to the Board.
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`It is
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`ORDERED that all due dates set in the Scheduling Order dated
`August 26, 2014 (Paper 9), remain unchanged as a result of the initial
`conference call on September 17, 2014;
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`FURTHER ORDERED that the page limit for a Motion for
`Observation Regarding Cross-Examination of Reply Witness is set to 7
`pages; and
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`FURTHER ORDERED that the parties contact each other to initiate
`settlement discussion, within ten days of the date of this Order.
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`For PETITIONER:
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`Joseph Melnik
`Joseph Beauchamp
`H. Albert Liou
`jmelnik@jonesday.com
`jbeauchamp@jonesday.com
`aliou@jonesday.com
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`For PATENT OWNER:
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`Thomas J. Wimbiscus
`Scott P. McBride
`Christopher Scharff
`twimbiscus@mcandrews-ip.com
`smcbride@mcandrews-ip.com
`cscharff@mcandrews-ip.com