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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`MASTERCARD INTERNATIONAL INCORPORATED
`Petitioner
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`v.
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`JOHN D’AGOSTINO
`Patent Owner
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`Case IPR2014-00544
`(Patent 7,840,486)
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`Title: System and Method for Performing Secure Credit Card Transactions
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`PETITIONER’S OBJECTIONS UNDER 37 C.F.R. § 42.64
`TO PATENT OWNER’S EVIDENCE SUBMITTED WITH
`PATENT OWNER’S RESPONSE
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`MasterCard, Exh. 1021, p. 1
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`Petitioner’s Objections Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.64
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.64, Petitioner MasterCard International Incorporated
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`(“MasterCard”) submits the following objections to the evidence submitted with
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`Patent Owner’s Response Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.120 (“Patent Owner’s Response”).
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`MasterCard objects to the Declaration of Edward L Gussin (Exhibit 2007, hereafter
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`“Gussin Declaration”) and all corresponding portions of Patent Owner’s Response
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`that rely on the paragraphs of the Gussin Declaration, as follows:
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` MasterCard objects, under Fed. R. Evid. 401, 402, 403, and 702
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`(respectively, “Rules 401, 402, 403, and 702”), to the admission into
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`evidence of the entire Gussin Declaration because Mr. Gussin is not
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`someone of ordinary skill in the art and, consequently, his opinions are
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`irrelevant (under Rule 401), inadmissible (under Rule 402), should be
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`excluded as prejudicial, confusing and wasteful (under Rule 403), and
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`unqualified (under Rule 702). Mr. Gussin himself states that he
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`“generally agree[s] with Dr. Grimes’s definition of a person of ordinary
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`skill in the art,” which according to Dr. Grimes is “a person having a B.S.
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`degree in Electrical Engineering or Computer Science, or the equivalent
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`experience, with at least three years of experience (or post-graduate
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`work) in payment card payment technologies, including experience in
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`existing, accepted remote payment card transaction practices in 1998-
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`1999, such as methods of performing secure credit card purchases of
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`MasterCard, Exh. 1021, p. 2
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`Petitioner’s Objections Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.64
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`goods and services which reduces the risk of potential fraud and theft by
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`eliminating unauthorized access to a consumer’s private credit card
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`information.” Expert Declaration of Dr. Jack D. Grimes (Exhibit 1008),
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`p. 10. Nowhere, however, in Mr. Gussin’s declaration (or appendices in
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`support) is there any evidence to suggest that Mr. Gussin satisfies this
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`requirement or has any experience whatsoever with payment card
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`payment technologies or methods of performing secure credit card
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`purchases. As a result, Mr. Gussin is not someone of ordinary skill in the
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`art; he lacks sufficient bases for his opinions, which accordingly should
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`be excluded.
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` MasterCard objects, under Fed. R. Evid. 701, to the admission into
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`evidence of the entire Gussin Declaration because as a lay witness he is
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`not entitled to present opinion testimony.
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` MasterCard objects, under Fed. R. Evid. 401, 402, and 403, to the
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`admission into evidence of paragraphs 7 to 21, and 26 to 45 of the Gussin
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`Declaration because such paragraphs present either (1) claim construction
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`opinions offering constructions different from
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`this Board’s prior
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`conclusions; and/or (2) “[o]pinions about Cohen” and anticipation that
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`are based on such different constructions. As a result, such paragraphs
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`are irrelevant (under Rule 401), inadmissible (under Rule 402), and
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`MasterCard, Exh. 1021, p. 3
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`Petitioner’s Objections Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.64
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`should be excluded as prejudicial, confusing and wasteful (under Rule
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`403).
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`For the reasons set forth above, MasterCard objects to the Gussin
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`Declaration and all corresponding portions of Patent Owner’s Response that rely
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`on the Gussin Declaration.
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`Respectfully submitted,
`BAKER BOTTS LLP
`/s/ Robert Scheinfeld__________
`Robert Scheinfeld
`Reg. No. 31,300
`30 Rockefeller Plaza, 44th Floor
`New York, New York 10112-4498
`Phone: (212) 408-2512
`Facsimile: (212) 408-2501
`robert.scheinfeld@bakerbotts.com
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`ATTORNEYS FOR PETITIONER
`MASTERCARD INTERNATIONAL
`INCORPORATED
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`December 12, 2014
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`Eliot Williams
`Reg. No. 50,822
`1001 Page Mill Road
`Building One, Suite 200
`Palo Alto, CA 94304
`Phone: (650) 739-7511
`Facsimile: (650) 739-7611
`eliot.williams@bakerbotts.com
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`MasterCard, Exh. 1021, p. 4
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`The undersigned certifies that on the 12th day of December, 2014, a
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`complete and entire copy of PETITIONER’S OBJECTIONS UNDER 37 C.F.R. §
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`42.64 TO PATENT OWNER’S EVIDENCE SUBMITTED WITH PATENT
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`OWNER’S RESPONSE were served via Federal Express, postage prepaid, and
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`electronic mail to the Patent Owner’s attorneys of record at the following address:
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`Stephen J. Lewellyn
`s.lewellyn@maxeyiplaw.com
`Brittany J. Maxey
`b.maxey@maxeyiplaw.com
`Maxey Law Offices, PLLC
`100 Second Avenue South
`Suite 401 North Tower
`St. Petersburg, Florida 33701
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`Respectfully submitted,
`BAKER BOTTS LLP
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`/s/ Robert Scheinfeld__________
`Robert Scheinfeld
`Reg. No. 31,300
`30 Rockefeller Plaza, 44th Floor
`New York, New York 10112-4498
`Phone: (212) 408-2512
`Facsimile: (212) 408-2501
`robert.scheinfeld@bakerbotts.com
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`ATTORNEYS FOR PETITIONER
`MASTERCARD INTERNATIONAL
`INCORPORATED
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`Eliot Williams
`Reg. No. 50,822
`1001 Page Mill Road
`Building One, Suite 200
`Palo Alto, CA 94304
`Phone: (650) 739-7511
`Facsimile: (650) 739-7611
`eliot.williams@bakerbotts.com
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`MasterCard, Exh. 1021, p. 5