throbber
United States Patent And Trademark Office
`Before The Patent Trial And Appeal Board
`
`ZTE Corporation And ZTE (USA) Inc.
`And
`Microsoft Corporation,
`Petitioners
`v.
`IPR Licensing, Inc.
`Patent Owner
`
`Hearing Presentation By
`Patent Owner IPR Licensing, Inc.
`May 21, 2015
`
`Case IPR2014-00525
`Patent 8,380,244
`
`IPR Licensing, Inc.
`Exhibit 2024
`ZTE Corp v. IPR Licensing, Inc.
`IPR2014-00525
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`1
`Ex. 2024-0001
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`

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`Key Distinctions Over Prior Art
`
`Jawanda says nothing about physical channels ...
`Jawanda teaches using a standard cellular connection
`Response at 10
`
`In the cellular standards at the time of the invention,
`the base station, not the subscriber unit, selected
`the channels
`
`Response at 10
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`Furthermore, in the then-existing cellular standards,
`including GPRS, there was no notion of a separate
`logical connection that was maintained without the
`corresponding physical connection
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`Response at 11
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`2
`Ex. 2024-0002
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`

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`Prosecution History Key Events
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`3
`Ex. 2024-0003
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`

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`Examiner Expressly Considered Jawanda and
`"Communication Session"
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`* * *
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`Response at 7
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`Ex. 2001 at 8
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`4
`Ex. 2024-0004
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`

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`Examiner Discussed Jawanda With Patentee
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`Ex. 2001 at 34-35
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`Response at 7-8
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`5
`Ex. 2024-0005
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`

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`Examiner Allowed Claims Over Jawanda
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`Ex. 1018 at 5, Response at 8
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`6
`Ex. 2024-0006
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`

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`Agreed Construction of
`Assigned Physical Channels
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`7
`Ex. 2024-0007
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`

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`Petitioner’s Proposed Construction For
`“Assigned Physical Channels”
`
`Petition at 10
`
`Petition at 11
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`8
`Ex. 2024-0008
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`

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`Patent Owner Agrees With This Construction
`
`Response at 13
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`9
`Ex. 2024-0009
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`

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`Construction of “Assigned Physical Channels”
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶32
`
`Response at 14-15
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`10
`Ex. 2024-0010
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`

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`Construction of “Assigned Physical Channels”
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`Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶96
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`Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶97
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`11
`Ex. 2024-0011
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`

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`Construction of “Assigned Physical Channels”
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`Reply at 3
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶33
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`12
`Ex. 2024-0012
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`

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`MEMORANDUM OPINION
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`The Defendants argue that the
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`EX. 2009 (Markman Op.) at 15-16
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`specification teaches that “a bandwidth management function that makes channels available for
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`use [assigns channels], and that a subset of those available channels are selectedfor use
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`[allocated] to send data.” Id. at 84 (emphasis and brackets in original).
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`>l<
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`*
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`>l<
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`*
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`>l<
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`*
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`Therefore the Court finds that the Defendants“
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`constructions accurately capture the proper scope of the various claim tenns.
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`Ex. 2009 (Markman Op.) at 15-16
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`Response at 15
`Response at 15
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`13
`Ex. 2024-0013
`Ex. 2024-0013
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`

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`The “Subscriber Unit Of The Present Invention”
`Selects The Physical Channels
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`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶34
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`Response at 14-15
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`14
`Ex. 2024-0014
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`

`

`The “Subscriber Unit Of The Present Invention”
`Mandates The Agreed-Upon Construction
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`* * *
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`* * *
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`’244 Patent at 9:27-28; 10:14-16
`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at 4:59-60; 9:64-66; 10:33-36
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`thus describes the features
`“When a patent
`invention’ as a whole,
`this
`of
`‘the present
`description limits the scope of the invention.”
`
`Verizon Servs. Corp. v. Vonage Holdings Corp., 503 F.3d 1295, 1308 (Fed. Cir. 2007)
`
`Response at 14
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`15
`Ex. 2024-0015
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`

`

`The “Subscriber Unit Of The Present Invention”
`Selects Physical Channels As Needed To Transfer Data
`
`* * *
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`* * *
`
`’244 Patent at 9:27-28; 10:14-16
`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at 4:59-60; 9:64-66; 10:33-36; Figure 6
`
`Response at 15, Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶34, Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶99
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`16
`Ex. 2024-0016
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`

`

`The “Subscriber Unit Of The Present Invention”
`Selects Channels For Use Only When It Has Data To Send
`
`’244 Patent at 9:27-28; 10:14-16
`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at 10:33-36
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶56
`
`Response at 14
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`17
`Ex. 2024-0017
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`

`

`The “Subscriber Unit Of The Present Invention”
`Selects Physical Channels As Needed To Transfer Data
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`* * *
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`* * *
`
`’244 Patent at 9:27-28; 10:14-16
`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at 4:59-60; 9:64-66; 10:33-36
`
`ZTE admits “[t]o ‘allocate’ an assigned channel means
`to ‘select’ that channel for use to send data.”
`
`Petition at 12
`
`Response at 14-15
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`18
`Ex. 2024-0018
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`

`

`“In Every Single Embodiment, The Sender . . . Selects
`The Physical Channels For Use”
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶56
`
`Response at 14-15
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`19
`Ex. 2024-0019
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`

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`“A Subset Of The Available Channels Is Selected”
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`* * *
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`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at 7:16-18, 26-27
`
`Response at 26
`
`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at Figure 3
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`20
`Ex. 2024-0020
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`

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`“The Proposed Construction . . . Adopted By The District Court And By
`Both ZTE And InterDigital In This IPR, Recognizes That The Subscriber
`Unit, Not The Base Station, Selects The Physical Channels To Be Used”
`Response at 3
`
`Wayne E. Stark, Ph.D.
`Patent Owner’s IPR Expert
`
`5 A. ... So when you allocate in the '970 or the '244
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`6
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`7
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`8
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`9
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`10
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`11
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`12
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`13
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`14
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`15
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`patent, when a channel -- when physical layer channels
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`are allocated, they're going to be used, and they've
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`been selected for use and they're going to be used.
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`So my opinion has not changed from the ITC.
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`The allocation is done at the subscriber unit. The
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`selection for use is done at the subscriber unit. The
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`use is done at the subscriber unit.
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`So when a subscriber unit allocates, it's going
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`to use because it's already selected those channels to
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`use.
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`Ex. 1025 (Stark Tr.) at 40:5-15
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`Response at 3-4
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`21
`Ex. 2024-0021
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`

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`“The Proposed Construction . . . Adopted By The District Court And By
`Both ZTE And InterDigital In This IPR, Recognizes That The Subscriber
`Unit, Not The Base Station, Selects The Physical Channels To Be Used”
`Response at 3
`
`Wayne E. Stark, Ph.D.
`Patent Owner’s IPR Expert
`
`15 Q. Within the context of the '244 patent
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`16
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`17
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`specification in the claims, your view is that selection
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`is different from use?
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`18 A. Selection is different from use because the --
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`19
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`20
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`21
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`22
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`you could use it without the subscriber unit selecting,
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`as in GPRS. In the patent, it requires the subscriber
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`unit to select for use. So just using it by itself is
`
`different from selecting and then using.
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`Ex. 1025 (Stark Tr.) at 54:15-22
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`Response at 14
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`22
`Ex. 2024-0022
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`

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`In The Prior Art, The Base Station Selects The Channels
`And The Subscriber Unit Then Uses The Channels
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶68
`
`Response at 10-11
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`23
`Ex. 2024-0023
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`

`

`In Reply, Petitioner Attempts To Revise Claim
`Interpretation, Equating Selection And Mere Use
`
`Petition:
`
`Petition at 10
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`24
`Ex. 2024-0024
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`

`

`In Reply, Petitioner Attempts To Revise Claim
`Interpretation, Equating Selection And Mere Use
`
`Petition:
`
`Reply:
`
`Petition at 10
`
`Reply at 4
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`25
`Ex. 2024-0025
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`

`

`In Reply, Petitioner Attempts To Revise Claim
`Interpretation To Remove Selection By Subscriber Unit
`
`Petition:
`
`Petition at 11
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`26
`Ex. 2024-0026
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`

`

`In Reply, Petitioner Attempts To Revise Claim
`Interpretation To Remove Selection By Subscriber Unit
`
`Petition:
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`Reply:
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`Petition at 11
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`Reply at 3
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`27
`Ex. 2024-0027
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`

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`Prior Art:
`Physical Channel Selection
`By The Base Station/Network
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`28
`Ex. 2024-0028
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`

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`The Experts Agree:
`Jawanda Says Nothing About Physical Channels
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶67
`
`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
`
`21
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`BY MS. HOLLOWAY:
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`22 Q. Okay. And you're aware, then, that the term "physical
`
`1
`
`2
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`channel" does not appear in Jawanda?
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`A. Jawanda does not use that term, correct.
`
`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 21:22-22:2
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`Response at 17
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`29
`Ex. 2024-0029
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`

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`Petitioner Relies On Jawanda’s Mention of GPRS
`Standards As Disclosing “Assigned Physical Channels”
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`Petition at 38
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`30
`Ex. 2024-0030
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`

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`At the Time of the Invention, Cellular Standards
`Taught Channel Selection By The Base Station
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`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶68
`
`Response at 18, 38
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`31
`Ex. 2024-0031
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`

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`In GPRS, The Network Selects
`The Physical Channels For Use
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`1
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`2
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`3
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`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶73
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`Response at 18
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`32
`Ex. 2024-0032
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`

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`In GPRS, The Network Selects
`The Physical Channels For Use
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶74
`
`Response at 18
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`33
`Ex. 2024-0033
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`

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`GPRS Dynamic Allocation:
`The Network Selects The Physical Channels
`
`* * *
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`* * *
`
`Response at 18-20
`
`34
`Ex. 2024-0034
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`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶¶76-77
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`

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`GPRS Extended Dynamic Allocation:
`The Network Selects The Physical Channels
`
`* * *
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`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶78
`
`Response at 20
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`35
`Ex. 2024-0035
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`

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`GPRS Fixed Allocation:
`The Network Selects The Physical Channels
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`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶79
`
`Response at 20-21
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`36
`Ex. 2024-0036
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`

`

`Petitioner’s Litigation Expert Admitted That In GPRS,
`The Network Selects The Physical Channels
`
`Steven W. McLaughlin, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s Litigation Expert
`
`15 Q. Okay. So according to the GPRS standard,
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`16
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`17
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`18
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`the network uses the uplink state flag to tell the
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`mobile station to transmit data on the PDCH
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`corresponding to that uplink state flag. Right?
`
`19 A. Yeah, that appears to be what's happening,
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`20
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`yes.
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`Ex. 2010 (McLaughlin Tr.) at 131:15-20
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`Response at 21
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`37
`Ex. 2024-0037
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`

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`Petitioner’s IPR Expert Admitted That In GPRS,
`The Network Selects The Physical Channels
`
`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
`
`Q. So in GPRS the cell allocates resources on one or several physical
`
`channels; right?
`
`A. That's correct.
`
`Q. Okay. And those physical channels, according to this paragraph, are
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`taken from the common pool of channels available in the cell; right?
`
`A. Yes.
`
`Q. So these physical channels are already available or, in the terms of
`
`the '244 patent, assigned; right?
`
`MR. JONES: Objection; form, foundation.
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`A. So these channels are assigned to individual mobile stations in GPRS.
`
`*
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`*
`
`*
`
`Q. Okay. So what the capacity on demand in 6.1.1.2 is talking about is
`
`the allocation of physical channels by the cell; right?
`
`A. Yes, that's correct.
`
`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 39:19-40:8, 42:3-6
`
`Response at 22
`
`38
`Ex. 2024-0038
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`

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`Petitioners and Their Expert Have No Evidence of
`Channel Selection By The Subscriber Unit
`
`Ex. 1005.10 (GSM 03.64 v.6.1.0) at 6.1.1
`
`Petition at 21-22, Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶184, ¶¶232-33
`
`39
`Ex. 2024-0039
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`Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶184
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`

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`GPRS 5.01, Section 5 Merely
`Discloses Multiple Time Slots
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`Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶184
`
`Response at 24-25
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`40
`Ex. 2024-0040
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`

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`GPRS 5.01, Section 2 Describes Channels “Allocated To
`The Same MS,” by “Resource Allocation Message”
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`Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶184
`
`Response at 24-25
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`41
`Ex. 2024-0041
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`

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`1
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`l
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`GPRS “Capacity On Demand”
`(i (i)
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`()
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`Digital cellular telecommunications svstem {Phase 2+};
`General Packet Radio Service {GPRSL
`Overall description of the GPRS radio interface;
`Stage 2
`{GSM 03.64 version 6.1.1] Release 199?}
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`6.1.1
`
`Allocation of resources for the GPRS
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`'l'hc ullocuiiiui iil'pln sicu] cliuiiiicls in circuit suiichcd scn'iccs and 13111.“: is iJiiiic LJT-HEIIHICLLH} according to ihc
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`}1I'1Ill..‘1]‘.IIL'.*-i dcn‘ci'ihci] hchm.
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`EX. 1005.10 at 6.1.1
`Ex. 1005.10 at 6.1.1
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`42
`Ex. 2024-0042
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`

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`GPRS “Capacity On Demand”
`
`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
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`3
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`4
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`5
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`6
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`Q. Okay. So what the capacity on demand in 6.1.1.2 is
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`talking about is the allocation of physical channels by
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`the cell; right?
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`A. Yes, that's correct.
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`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 42:3-6
`
`Response at 27
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`43
`Ex. 2024-0043
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`

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`Text Shows That In GPRS,
`The Network Selects The Physical Channels
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`Ex. 2011 (Heine Excerpt) at 90-92
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`Response at 22
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`44
`Ex. 2024-0044
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`

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`GPRS Is Incompatible With
`Channel Selection By The Subscriber Unit
`
`Response at 18
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`45
`Ex. 2024-0045
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`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶95
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`

`

`
`
`Petitioners’ “Select To Use” Theory
`Petitioners' "Select T_o Use" Theory
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`EX. 2024-0046
`46
`Ex. 2024-0046
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`

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`“If A Subscriber Unit Merely Chooses To Use, Or Not Use,
`The Available Channels, This Is Not Selecting For Use”
`
`Response at 25
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶84
`
`Response at 25-26
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`47
`Ex. 2024-0047
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`

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`“It Is Simply Not True That In GPRS, A Subscriber Unit
`Can Choose to Use, Or Not Use, Its Assigned Channels”
`
`Response at 26
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶75
`
`Response at 25-26
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`48
`Ex. 2024-0048
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`

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`“It Is Simply Not True That In GPRS, A Subscriber Unit
`Can Choose to Use, Or Not Use, Its Assigned Channels”
`
`Response at 26
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`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶77
`
`Response at 18-19, 26
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`49
`Ex. 2024-0049
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`

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`“It Is Simply Not True That In GPRS, A Subscriber Unit
`Can Choose to Use, Or Not Use, Its Assigned Channels”
`
`Response at 26
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶78
`
`Response at 20, 26
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`50
`Ex. 2024-0050
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`

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`“It Is Simply Not True That In GPRS, A Subscriber Unit
`Can Choose to Use, Or Not Use, Its Assigned Channels”
`
`Response at 26
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶79
`
`Response at 20-21, 26
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`51
`Ex. 2024-0051
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`

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`“In The GPRS Standards. . . The Subscriber Unit Is Required
`To Use The Channels Selected By The Base Station”
`
`Response at 25
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶77
`
`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
`
`10 Q. Okay. You mentioned mandatory features.
`
`11
`
`12
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`What language is used to identify a mandatory
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`feature in a standard?
`
`13 A. So typically the sentence would include the word "shall”
`
`14
`in reference to a mandatory functionality.
`The Experts Agree: "Shall" Is Mandatory Language
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`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 155:10-14
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`Response at 20-21, 26
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`52
`Ex. 2024-0052
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`

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`“In The GPRS Standards. . . The Subscriber Unit Is Required
`To Use The Channels Selected By The Base Station”
`
`Response at 25
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶90
`
`Response at 26
`
`53
`Ex. 2024-0053
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`

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`Claims 8 and 30 Not Disclosed
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`54
`Ex. 2024-0054
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`

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`“Claims 8 and 30 Are Not Disclosed By
`Jawanda With A GPRS Cellular Connection”
`
`Response at 39
`
`“Jawanda With GPRS Does Not Include A Cellular Network That Is A CDMA Network”
`Response at 39
`
`GPRS
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`GPRS
`
`GPRS
`
`*
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`*
`
`*
`
`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at Claim 1
`
`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at Claim 8
`
`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
`
`Q. Okay. Now, GPRS uses time division multiple
`access or TDMA; right?
`MR. JONES: Objection; form.
`A. Yes, that's true.
`
`Response at 39-40
`
`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 32:22-33:3
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`55
`Ex. 2024-0055
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`

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`“Claims 8 and 30 Are Not Disclosed By
`Jawanda With A GPRS Cellular Connection”
`
`Response at 39
`
`“Jawanda With GPRS Does Not Include A Cellular Network That Is A CDMA Network”
`Response at 39
`
`GPRS
`
`GPRS
`
`Jawanda – CDMA
`
`*
`
`*
`
`*
`
`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at Claim 1
`
`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at Claim 8
`
`Petitioner Cannot Rely On A Completely Different Type of Cellular Network Using
`Different Types of Physical Channels For Claims 8 and 30
`
`Response at 39-40
`
`Response at 40
`
`56
`Ex. 2024-0056
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`

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`Other Prior Art Standards
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`57
`Ex. 2024-0057
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`

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`“[I]n IS-95 and IS-657, The Base Station Selects The Physical Channel”
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶102
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`*
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`*
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`*
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶¶68, 102
`
`Steven W. McLaughlin, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s Litigation Expert
`
`Q. Sure. The base station in IS-95, IS-657, the base station tells the mobile
`station which traffic channels to use; right?
`A. Yes.
`Q. And specifically the base station tells the mobile station which traffic
`channel to use by sending it a channel assignment message; right?
`A. Yes.
`Q. And that message direct the mobile station to the traffic channel; right?
`A. Yes.
`
`Ex. 2015 (Delaware Trial Tr.) at 1108:3-14
`
`Response at 18, Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶102
`
`58
`Ex. 2024-0058
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`

`

`“In CDPD . . . The Base Station Selects The Channel”
`
`Response at 18
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶105
`
`Steven W. McLaughlin, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s Litigation Expert
`
`Q. According to WDN '96, in CDPD, in each cell, the base station is responsible
`for channel usage, correct?
`MR. BROOKS: Objection, the document speaks for itself.
`A. Yes, that's what the document says. Yes.
`BY MS. HOLLOWAY:
`Q. And that as far as you know is an accurate description of CDPD? 09:27:16
`A. Yes.
`Q. Okay. And according to WDN '96, the base station selects the channel to be
`used for CDPD within the cell, correct?
`MR. BROOKS: Objection, the document speaks for itself.
`A. Yes, that's what the document says.
`
`Response at 18, Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶105
`
`Ex. 2008 (868 Dep. Tr.) at 304:5-20
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`59
`Ex. 2024-0059
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`

`

`Petitioners’ Reply Claim Construction
`
`60
`Ex. 2024-0060
`
`

`

`In Reply, Petitioner Attempts To Revise Claim
`Interpretation, Equating Selection And Mere Use
`
`Petition:
`
`Petition at 10
`
`61
`Ex. 2024-0061
`
`

`

`In Reply, Petitioner Attempts To Revise Claim
`Interpretation, Equating Selection And Mere Use
`
`Petition:
`
`Reply:
`
`Petition at 10
`
`Reply at 4
`
`62
`Ex. 2024-0062
`
`

`

`In Reply, Petitioner Attempts To Revise Claim
`Interpretation To Remove Selection By Subscriber Unit
`
`Petition:
`
`Petition at 11
`
`63
`Ex. 2024-0063
`
`

`

`In Reply, Petitioner Attempts To Revise Claim
`Interpretation To Remove Selection By Subscriber Unit
`
`Petition:
`
`Reply:
`
`Petition at 11
`
`Reply at 3
`
`64
`Ex. 2024-0064
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`

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`Subscriber Unit Of The Present Invention
`
`* * *
`
`* * *
`
`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at 4:59-60; 9:64-66; 10:33-36
`
`Response at 15, Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶34, Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶99
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`65
`Ex. 2024-0065
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`

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`Petitioner’s Expert
`Petitioner's Expert
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`DECLARATION OF DR. HARRY BIMS IN SUPPORT OF
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`THE PETITION FOR INTER R4RTES REVIEW
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`OF US. PATENT NO. 3380344
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`Rather, the specification describes
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`‘1
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`what acticns to perform cn thcse assigned channel s that have been made available to the
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`subscriber unit. “For example a bandwidth management function may make cnlv a certain
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`number of channels available at any time” (Ea. IUD] {244 patent) at T2446). “A subset cf the
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`available channels 3C! is selected, and then the optimum number of bits for each subf'rame
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`intended he be transmined ever respective cne cf the channels? is then chcsen” (Ea. lflfll (244
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`patent) at TEES-29}.
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`,
`Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶98
`EX. 1002 (Blms Decl.) at (”98
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`EX. 2024-0066
`66
`Ex. 2024-0066
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`Petitioners: “Any Subscriber Unit That Uses A Channel
`Necessarily ‘Selects’ . . . That Channel For Use”
`Reply at 4, Response at 3
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`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶68
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`Response at 2-3
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`Response at 2-3
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`67
`Ex. 2024-0067
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`“The Proposed Construction . . . Adopted By The District Court And By
`Both ZTE And InterDigital In This IPR, Recognizes That The Subscriber
`Unit, Not The Base Station, Selects The Physical Channels To Be Used”
`Response at 3
`
`Wayne E. Stark, Ph.D.
`Patent Owner’s IPR Expert
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`5 A. ... So when you allocate in the '970 or the '244
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`6
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`7
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`8
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`9
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`14
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`15
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`patent, when a channel -- when physical layer channels
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`are allocated, they're going to be used, and they've
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`been selected for use and they're going to be used.
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`So my opinion has not changed from the ITC.
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`The allocation is done at the subscriber unit. The
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`selection for use is done at the subscriber unit. The
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`use is done at the subscriber unit.
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`So when a subscriber unit allocates, it's going
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`to use because it's already selected those channels to
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`use.
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`Ex. 1025 (Stark Tr.) at 40:5-15
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`Response at 3-4
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`68
`Ex. 2024-0068
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`“The Proposed Construction . . . Adopted By The District Court And By
`Both ZTE And InterDigital In This IPR, Recognizes That The Subscriber
`Unit, Not The Base Station, Selects The Physical Channels To Be Used”
`Response at 3
`
`Wayne E. Stark, Ph.D.
`Patent Owner’s IPR Expert
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`15 Q. Within the context of the '244 patent
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`16
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`17
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`specification in the claims, your view is that selection
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`is different from use?
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`18 A. Selection is different from use because the --
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`22
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`you could use it without the subscriber unit selecting,
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`as in GPRS. In the patent, it requires the subscriber
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`unit to select for use. So just using it by itself is
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`different from selecting and then using.
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`Ex. 1025 (Stark Tr.) at 54:15-22
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`Response at 14
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`69
`Ex. 2024-0069
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`“Assigned Physical Channels” Means “Physical Channels
`Available For The Subscriber To Select For Use”
`
`Petitioner Proposed This Construction, And
`Their Expert Supported It
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`Petition at 10, Bims Dec. at ¶96
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`Patent Owner And Their Expert Agreed
`Resp. at 13, Stark Dec. at ¶55
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`Description of The Present Invention Requires
`Physical Channel Selection By Subscriber Unit,
`As Needed To Transfer Data
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶56, Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at 9:27-28, 9:64-66, 10:33-36, Figure 6;
`see also Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶99
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`Response at 13-15
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`70
`Ex. 2024-0070
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`GPRS: “The Base Station, Not The Subscriber Unit,
`Selects The Physical Channels”
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`Response at 18
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`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶68
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`Response at 18-22
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`71
`Ex. 2024-0071
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`

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`GPRS: “The Base Station, Not The Subscriber Unit,
`Selects The Physical Channels”
`
`Response at 18
`
`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
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`19 Q. So in GPRS the cell allocates resources on one or
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`20
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`several physical channels; right?
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`21 A. That's correct.
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`*
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`*
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`*
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`4 Q. So these physical channels are already available or, in
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`5
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`the terms of the '244 patent, assigned; right?
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`6 MR. JONES: Objection; form, foundation.
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`7 A. So these channels are assigned to individual mobile
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`8
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`stations in GPRS.
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`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 39:19-21, 40:4-8
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`Response at 22
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`72
`Ex. 2024-0072
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`

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`GPRS: “The Base Station, Not The Subscriber Unit,
`Selects The Physical Channels”
`
`Response at 18
`
`Steven W. McLaughlin, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s Litigation Expert
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`15 Q. Okay. So according to the GPRS standard,
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`16
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`17
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`18
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`the network uses the uplink state flag to tell the
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`mobile station to transmit data on the PDCH
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`corresponding to that uplink state flag. Right?
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`19 A. Yeah, that appears to be what's happening,
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`20
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`yes.
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`Ex. 2010 (McLaughlin Tr.) at 131:15-20
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`Response at 21
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`73
`Ex. 2024-0073
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`

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`Agreed Construction Of
`“Communication Session”
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`74
`Ex. 2024-0074
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`

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`The Parties Agree A “Communication Session”
`Is A “Logical Connection” For This IPR
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`Petition at 14
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`75
`Ex. 2024-0075
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`Petition at 14
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`

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`“Surrounding Claim Language”:
`“Connection . . . . Is Necessarily Logical”
`
`Response at 15
`
`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at Claim 1
`
`Response at 15
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`76
`Ex. 2024-0076
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`

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`A “Logical Connection” “Confirmed By The Specification”
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`Response at 16
`
`Response at 16
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`77
`Ex. 2024-0077
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`Ex. 1001 (’244 Patent) at 4:5-26
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`

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`Jawanda:
`No Logical Connection With
`The Cellular Wireless Network,
`While Using The WLAN
`
`78
`Ex. 2024-0078
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`

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`Jawanda’s “Optionally Maintain[ed]” WWAN Connection
`
`The “communication session with the cellular
`wireless network” is a “logical connection with
`the cellular wireless network”
`
`Petition at 15, Response at 15
`
`“Nothing in Jawanda Suggests That the Cellular
`Connection That is Optionally “Maintained”
`Is Anything But A Standard End-to-End
`Connection Using Physical Channels”
`
`Response at 29
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`79
`Ex. 2024-0079
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`

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`Petitioner’s IPR Expert Admits Optionally Maintaining The
`Cellular Connection Means It Continues to Exist or is Active
`
`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
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`22 Q. Right. And what you are referring to, as I understand
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`1
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`2
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`3
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`it, is the discussion of optionally maintaining the WWAN
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`connection in Box 122 of Figure 4.
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`Is that right?
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`4 MR. JONES: Objection; foundation, form.
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`5 A. So in Block 122 it talks about the seamless handoff of
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`6
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`7
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`8
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`9
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`datagrams from the WWAN connection to the WLAN
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`connection, and there's an option in this block to
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`maintain the WWAN connection when that rerouting of
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`datagrams through a seamless handoff has occurred.
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`*
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`*
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`*
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`19 Q. Just so we're clear here, "maintain" means "continues to
`
`20
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`exist after it's been established"; right?
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`21 A. Right.
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`22
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`1
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`Continues to exist or is active as is called
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`for, yes.
`
`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 52:22-53:9, 12:19-13:1
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`Ex. 1003 (Jawanda ’581 Patent) at Figure 4
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`Response at 29, Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶114
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`80
`Ex. 2024-0080
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`

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`Petitioner’s Litigation Expert Admits The “Optionally
`Maintained” Cellular Connection Is “Active”
`
`Steven W. McLaughlin, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s Litigation Expert
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`23
`24
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`MS. HOLLOWAY: Can we see Dr.
`McLaughlin's deposition at 65, lines 15 through
`19?
`BY MS. HOLLOWAY:
`Q. Okay. So talking about this figure in
`
`Jawanda, I said:
`"If the wireless data connection
`with the cellular WWAN is already active in box
`130, that's because it was maintained and
`therefore remained active in box 122. Right?
`"Answer: Yes."
`Did you give that testimony?
`A. I gave that testimony, but I think you are
`talking here about box 130. The question is
`about box 130, not about --
`Q. And about box 122.
`A. Yes.
`Q. But the point is if the cellular WWAN is
`maintained, it is active.
`MS. HOLLOWAY: Can we have that back
`up, please?
`BY MS. HOLLOWAY:
`Q. If the cellular connection is maintained,
`it is active. That's what you said?
`A. Yes. Yes.
`
`Ex. 2015 (Delaware Trial Tr.) at 1118:23-1119:23
`
`Response at 31, Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶114
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`81
`Ex. 2024-0081
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`

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`Petitioner’s Litigation Expert Admits
`An Active Connection Is “In Use”
`
`Steven W. McLaughlin, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s Litigation Expert
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`11 MS. HOLLOWAY: Can we have Dr.
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`McLaughlin's 2013 deposition, page 189, line 22
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`to 190, line 4.
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`BY MS. HOLLOWAY:
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`Q. "First of all, in general, what is an
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`active connection in the context of wireless
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`communications?
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`"Answer: Again, broad strokes, it
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`would be a connection that's active, i.e. being
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`used or -- I think of a connection that's being
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`used, a wireless link that's being used."
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`Did you give that testimony under
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`oath, Doctor?
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`24 A. Yes.
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`Response at 31
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`82
`Ex. 2024-0082
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`Ex. 2015 (Delaware Trial Tr.) at 1120:11-24
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`

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`Jawanda Teaches Concurrent Connections,
`Optionally Maintained
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`Ex. 1003 (Jawanda ’581 Patent) at 5:32-34
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`Ex. 1003 (Jawanda ’581 Patent) at Figure 4
`
`Response at 30-31
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`83
`Ex. 2024-0083
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`

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`Jawanda: Wireless Cellular Connection Established
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`Response at 29
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`84
`Ex. 2024-0084
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`Ex. 1003 (Jawanda ’581 Patent) at Figure 4
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`

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`Jawanda: Established Cellular Connection Used
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`Response at 29
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`85
`Ex. 2024-0085
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`Ex. 1003 (Jawanda ’581 Patent) at Figure 4
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`

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`Jawanda: Use WLAN, Optionally Maintain Cellular Connection
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`Response at 29
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`86
`Ex. 2024-0086
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`Ex. 1003 (Jawanda ’581 Patent) at Figure 4
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`

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`Jawanda: Establish Cellular Connection If “Not Already Active”
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`Response at 29
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`87
`Ex. 2024-0087
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`Ex. 1003 (Jawanda ’581 Patent) at Figure 4
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`

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`Jawanda: “If The Cellular Connection Is ‘Maintained,’ It Is ‘Active’”
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`Response at 31
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`“The WWAN connection will
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`only be active . . . if it was
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`maintained in block 122”
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`Response at 31
`
`Ex. 1003 (Jawanda ’581 Patent) at Figure 4
`
`Response at 31
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`88
`Ex. 2024-0088
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`

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`Jawanda: “Close All Active Data Connections”
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`Response at 29-30
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`89
`Ex. 2024-0089
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`Ex. 1003 (Jawanda ’581 Patent) at Figure 4
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`

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`The Cellular Connection in Jawanda is Established,
`Used, and Either Maintained or Terminated
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶117
`
`Ex. 1003 (Jawanda ’581 Patent) at Figure 4
`
`Response at 29-31
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`90
`Ex. 2024-0090
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`

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`Petition And Expert Assert
`Several Different Theories For Logical Connection
`
`Maintaining the “Application Session”
`
`Mobile IP (Not Briefed by Petitioner)
`
`Petition at 22-23; Response at 27-28, 32-33; Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶¶57, 193, 196-98
`
`91
`Ex. 2024-0091
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`

`

`The Experts Agree: The “Application Session”
`Is Not The Claimed “Logical Connection”
`
`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶112
`
`Q. Okay. And are you saying that this application session that you say
`
`would have to exist is a communication session that is maintained with
`
`the cellular network, as required by the claims?
`
`MR. JONES: Objection; foundation, form.
`A. The communication session that is maintained as required by the claims
`is a communication session between the subscriber unit and either the
`WLAN or the WWAN, which is different from an application session between
`two end points.
`
`Response at 27-28
`
`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 121:8-17
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`92
`Ex. 2024-0092
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`

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`Dr Bims' Change In Position On Application Session
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`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
`
`8 Q. Okay. And are you saying that this application session
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`9
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`10
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`11
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`12
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`that you say would have to exist is a communication
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`session that is maintained with the cellular network, as
`
`required by the claims?
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`MR. JONES: Objection; foundation, form.
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`13 A. The communication session that is maintained as required
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`14
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`15
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`16
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`17
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`by the claims is a communication session between the
`
`subscriber unit and either the WLAN or the WWAN, which
`
`is different from an application session between
`
`two end points.
`
`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 121:8-17
`
`Response at 28
`
`93
`Ex. 2024-0093
`
`

`

`Dr Bims' Change In Position On Application Session
`
`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
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`18
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`19
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`Now, you testified for ZTE and Nokia in an ITC
`
`investigation; right?
`
`20 A. Yes.
`
`21 Q. Okay. And in that case, you took the position that the
`
`22
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`1
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`2
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`application session in Jawanda is a communication
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`session that is maintained with the cellular network
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`when the physical channels are released; right?
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`3 MR. JONES: Objection; scope, form,
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`4
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`foundation.
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`5 A. Yes.
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`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 123:18-124:5
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`Response at 28
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`94
`Ex. 2024-0094
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`

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`Mobile IP “Connection” Is With the WLAN,
`Not the Cellular Network
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶120
`
`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
`
`20 Q. Okay. So if that point of attachment is the WLAN, then
`
`21 the logical connection you're pointing to is between the
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`22 mobile node and the WLAN; right?
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`1 MR. JONES: Objection; foundation.
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`2 A. The logical connection would be between those two, yeah.
`
`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 117:20-118:2
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`Response at 33
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`95
`Ex. 2024-0095
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`

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`
`
`PDP Context In GPRS
`PDP Context In GPRS
`
`EX. 2024-0096
`96
`Ex. 2024-0096
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`

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`”Jawanda Teaches Only To Use GPRS ‘Data Connections’
`In Order To Transmit ‘Wireless Signals’”
`
`Response at 34
`
`Ex. 1003 (Jawanda ’581 Patent) at 3:6-9
`
`Ex. 2005 (Stark Decl.) at ¶130
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`Response at 34
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`97
`Ex. 2024-0097
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`

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`Nothing in Jawanda Suggests Maintaining a
`Logical Connection With The Cellular Network
`
`Response at 31
`
`Jawanda teaches using “data connections . . .
`according to any currently available or future
`wireless data protocol such as . . . CDPD
`or GPRS”
`
`Response at 34, Jawanda (Ex. 1003) at 3:6-9
`
`Jawanda teaches “optionally maintaining” an
`“active” cellular connection
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`Response at 30-31, Jawanda (Ex. 1003) at Fig. 4 blocks 122 and 130
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`98
`Ex. 2024-0098
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`

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`Petitioner’s Expert Dr. Bims Fails To Show That GPRS Included
`Maintaining PDP Context When Physical Channels Are Not In Use
`
`Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶200
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`“Says Nothing About PDP Context”
`
`Response at 35
`
`Response at 35-36
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`99
`Ex. 2024-0099
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`

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`Petitioner’s Expert Dr. Bims Fails To Show That GPRS Included
`Maintaining PDP Context When Physical Channels Are Not In Use
`
`Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶201
`
`“Says Nothing About The Physical Radio Link,
`Or Physical Channels”
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`Response at 35-36
`
`Response at 35-36
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`100
`Ex. 2024-0100
`
`

`

`Petitioner’s Expert Dr. Bims Fails To Show That GPRS Included
`Maintaining PDP Context When Physical Channels Are Not In Use
`
`Ex. 1002 (Bims Decl.) at ¶203
`
`“Says Nothing About The Physical Radio Link,
`Or Physical Channels”
`
`Response at 36
`
`Response at 35-36
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`101
`Ex. 2024-0101
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`

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`Dr. Bims Admits Mobility Management
`Relates to Tracking Movement
`
`Harry Bims, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s IPR Expert
`
`21 Q. So returning to my question, mobility management states,
`
`22
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`1
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`2
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`do they at all relate to physical channels or physical
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`links, as you discussed with Ms. Holloway during your
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`cross-examination?
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`3 A. So mobility management states relate to the tracking of
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`4
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`5
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`6
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`the movement of the subscriber unit, which is different
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`from the transmission of datagrams through these
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`PDCH channels, as I described in my declaration.
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`Ex. 2006 (Bims Tr.) at 174:21-175:6
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`Response at 36
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`102
`Ex. 2024-0102
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`

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`Dr. Bims' Prior Position
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`Response at 38-39
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`103
`Ex. 2024-0103
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`Ex. 2017 at Q275
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`

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`Petitioners' Litigation Expert On PDP Context
`
`Steven W. McLaughlin, Ph.D.
`Petitioner’s Litigation Expert
`
`Q. ... Okay. And it's your opinion,
`
`Doctor, that PDP context and CDMA session are not
`
`logical connections; right?
`
`8
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`9
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`10
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`11 A. That's right.
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`Ex. 2015 (Delaware Trial Tr.) at 1074:8-11
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`Response at 39
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`104
`Ex. 2024-0104
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`

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`
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`Draft GPRS Documents
`Draft GPRS Documents
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`EX. 2024-0105
`105
`Ex. 2024-0105
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`

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`“The Various GPRS Documents
`Cannot Be Considered A Single Reference”
`
`Response at 41
`
`the GSM standard includes hundreds of
`“Indeed,
`individual specifications .
`.
`. each with its own title
`and separate page numbering.
`Each specification,
`though part of the greater GSM standard, stands as a
`separate document in its own right .
`.
`. Under these
`circumstances, the GSM standard is actually several prior
`art references with separate dates of creation, rather than
`a single prior art

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