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` Before the Honorable Charles E. Bullock
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`In the Matter of *
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`CERTAIN WIRELESS DEVICES WITH *
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`3G AND/OR 4G CAPABILITIES AND * Investigation No.
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`COMPONENTS THEREOF * 337-TA-868
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` CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION
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` SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER
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` Volume 1
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` Deposition of STEVEN W. McLAUGHLIN, Ph.D.
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` Washington, DC
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` Thursday, September 26, 2013
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`Job No.: 44186
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`Pages: 1 - 282
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`Reported By: Lee Bursten, RMR, CRR
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` UNITED STATES INTERNATIONAL TRADE COMMISSION
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` WASHINGTON, D.C.
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` Before the Honorable Charles E. Bullock
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` Chief Administrative Law Judge
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`In the Matter of *
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`CERTAIN WIRELESS DEVICES WITH *
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`3G AND/OR 4G CAPABILITIES AND * Investigation No.
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`COMPONENTS THEREOF * 337-TA-868
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` CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION
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` Volume 1
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` Deposition of STEVEN W. McLAUGHLIN, Ph.D.
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`Job No.: 44186
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`Pages: 1 - 282
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`CONFIDENTIAL DEPOSITION OF STEVEN W. McLAUGHLIN, Ph.D., VOLUME 1
`CONDUCTED ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2013
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`HOLDINGS, INC.:
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`CONFIDENTIAL DEPOSITION OF STEVEN W. McLAUGHLIN, Ph.D., VOLUME 1
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` ROPES & GRAY LLP
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`ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST:
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` Q And the only evidence you cite in paragraph
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` WASHINGTON, D.C.
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` Before the Honorable Charles E. Bullock
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` Chief Administrative Law Judge
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`------------------------------*
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`In the Matter of *
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`CERTAIN WIRELESS DEVICES WITH *
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`3G AND/OR 4G CAPABILITIES AND * Investigation No.
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`COMPONENTS THEREOF * 337-TA-868
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` CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION
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` SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER
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` Volume 2
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` Videotaped Deposition of STEVEN W. McLAUGHLIN, Ph.D.
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` Washington, DC
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` Friday, September 27, 2013
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` 9:07 a.m.
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`Job No.: 44188
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`Reported By: Lee Bursten, RMR, CRR
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`CONFIDENTIAL DEPOSITION OF STEVEN W. McLAUGHLIN, Ph.D., VOLUME 2
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`HOLDINGS, INC.:
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` (415) 391-0600
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`COMMUNICATIONS, INC.; INTERDIGITAL TECHNOLOGY
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`HOLDINGS, INC.:
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`CONFIDENTIAL DEPOSITION OF STEVEN W. McLAUGHLIN, Ph.D., VOLUME 2
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` ROPES & GRAY LLP
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` One Metro Center
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`CONFIDENTIAL DEPOSITION OF STEVEN W. McLAUGHLIN, Ph.D., VOLUME 2
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