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` Paper 19
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` Entered: August 27, 2014
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`IRON DOME LLC,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`E-WATCH, INC.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2014-00439
`Patent 7,365,871
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`Before JAMESON LEE, GREGG I. ANDERSON, and
`MATTHEW R. CLEMENTS, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`LEE, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Conduct of Proceedings
`37 C.F.R. § 42.5
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`Case IPR2014-00439
`Patent 7,365,871
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`Introduction
`On August 26, 2014, an initial telephone conference call was held. The
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`participants were respective counsel for the parties and Judges Lee, Anderson, and
`Clements. Only Petitioner filed a proposed motions list (Paper 18). Counsel for
`Patent Owner indicated that its expert witness is not accessible until mid-
`September, but that no extension of Due Date 6 or 7 as set in the Scheduling Order
`of August 4, 2014 (Paper 17) would be required. Counsel for Petitioner and Patent
`Owner agreed to cooperate to permit short extensions of Due Dates 1–5, if
`necessary, by stipulation, as is authorized by the Scheduling Order. Other than the
`preceding, neither party expressed any objection to the dates set forth in the
`Scheduling Order.
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`Discussion
`The only item on Petitioner’s proposed motions list is directed to additional
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`discovery. Specifically, Petitioner seeks to obtain information on Patent Owner’s
`conception, diligence, and reduction to practice of the invention of each challenged
`claim, in connection with any effort by the Patent Owner to antedate prior art
`references which form the basis of an alleged ground of unpatentability which has
`been instituted for trial. We explained that Patent Owner’s Preliminary Response
`is not evidence or carried automatically over into the trial and that Patent Owner
`has not yet filed a Patent Owner Response subsequent to the institution of trial.
`Therefore, a reference to Patent Owner’s attempt to antedate prior art is premature.
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`We indicated also that if and when Patent Owner submits declaration
`evidence as a part of the Patent Owner Response, to antedate prior art, Petitioner
`will be able, as a part of routine discovery, to cross-examine the declarants and
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`obtain copies of documents relied on in the declaration(s). We confirmed that
`subsequent to institution of trial, Patent Owner has an opportunity, by way of the
`Patent Owner Response, to antedate the prior art, regardless of what was presented
`in connection with the Preliminary Response. In light of that discussion, counsel
`for Petitioner withdrew the request for authorization to file a motion for additional
`discovery.
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`We advised counsel for both parties that a Motion to Exclude Evidence
`should not be used to present issues on whether a Reply or evidence in support of a
`Reply exceeds the proper scope of a Reply. Instead, if an issue arises regarding the
`proper scope of a Reply, the parties should initiate a joint conference call with the
`Board to discuss the matter.
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`Order
`It is ORDERED that Due Dates 1–7 as set forth in Paper 17 remain
`unchanged.
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`For PETITIONER:
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`Steven Yu
`ROZMED LLC
`syu@patent-intercept.com
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`For PATENT OWNER
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`Robert C. Curfiss
`David O. Simmons
`bob@curfiss.com
`dsimmons1@sbcglobal.net
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