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`RECORD OF ORAL HEARING
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`FORD MOTOR COMPANY, JAGUAR LAND ROVER
`NORTH AMERICA, LLC, VOLVO CARS OF NORTH AMERICA, LLC,
`TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC., and
`SUBARU OF AMERICA, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`CRUISE CONTROL TECHNOLOGIES LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2014-00281
`U.S. Patent 6,324,463
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`Oral Hearing Held on Tuesday, March 24, 2015
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`Before: JOSIAH C. COCKS, HYUN J. JUNG, and GEORGE R.
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`HOSKINS (via video link), Administrative Patent Judges.
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`The above-entitled matter came on for hearing on Tuesday, March 24,
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`2015, at 1:29 p.m., in Hearing Room A, taken at the U.S. Patent and
`Trademark Office, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria, Virginia.
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`ERIC A. BURESH, ESQ.
`JASON R. MUDD, ESQ.
`Erise IP
`6201 College Boulevard
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`Overland Park, Kansas 66211
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`JOHN R. KASHA, ESQ.
`Kasha Law LLC
`14532 Defief Mill Road
`North Potomac, Maryland 20878
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`TIMOTHY M. SALMON, ESQ.
`Cruise Control Technologies LLC
`14532 Defief Mill Road
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`J U D G E C OC K S : P l e a s e b e s e a t e d . Go o d
`JUDGE COCKS: Please be seated. Good
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`a f t e r n o o n . Th i s i s t h e t h i r d o r a l a r g u me n t s e s s i o n o f f i v e
`afternoon. This is the third oral argument session of five
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`r e l a t e d p r o c e e d i n g s a l l i n v o l v i n g U . S . P a t e n t 6 , 3 2 4 , 4 6 3 .
`related proceedings all involving U.S. Patent 6,324,463.
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`T h i s o r a l a r g u me n t s e s s i o n c o n c e r n s I P R 2 0 1 4 - 0 0 2 8 1 .
`This oral argument session concerns IPR2014-00281.
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`L e t ' s h a v e c o u n s e l i n t r o d u c e t h e ms e l v e s ,
`Let's have counsel introduce themselves,
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`b e g i n n i n g w i t h t h e P e t i t i o n e r .
`beginning with the Petitioner.
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`M R . B UR E S H: T h a n k yo u , Yo u r H o n o r . Er i c
`MR. BURESH: Thank you, Your Honor. Eric
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`B u r e s h f r o m E r i s e I P o n b e h a l f o f F o r d M o t o r C o m p a n y a n d
`Buresh from Erise IP on behalf of Ford Motor Company and
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`t h e o t h e r n a me d P e t i t i o n e r s i n t h i s p r o c e e d i n g . An d wi t h me
`the other named Petitioners in this proceeding. And with me
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`i s J a s o n M u d d , a l s o f r o m E r i s e I P .
`is Jason Mudd, also from Erise IP.
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`J U D G E C OC K S : A l l r i g h t . Th a n k yo u . An d f o r
`JUDGE COCKS: All right. Thank you. And for
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`t h e P a t e n t O wn e r ?
`the Patent Owner?
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`M R . K A S H A: Go o d a f t e r n o o n , Yo u r Ho n o r . I ' m
`MR. KASHA: Good afternoon, Your Honor.
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`J o h n Ka s h a , l e a d c o u n s e l f o r P a t e n t O wn e r . An d wi t h me i s
`John Kasha, lead counsel for Patent Owner. And with me is
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`M r . Ti mo t h y S a l mo n f r o m C r u i s e C o n t r o l Te c h n o l o g i e s .
`Mr. Timothy Salmon from Cruise Control Technologies.
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`J U D G E C OC K S : T h a n k yo u , M r . K a s h a .
`JUDGE COCKS: Thank you, Mr. Kasha.
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`A s we s e t f o r t h i n t h e t r i a l h e a r i n g o r d e r , e a c h
`As we set forth in the trial hearing order, each
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`s i d e h a s 4 5 mi n u t e s . P e t i t i o n e r wi l l b e g i n a n d ma y r e s e r v e
`side has 45 minutes. Petitioner will begin and may reserve
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`r e b u t t a l t i me . Th e P a t e n t O wn e r wi l l t h e n r e s p o n d w i t h t h e i r
`rebuttal time. The Patent Owner will then respond with their
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`c a s e . An d t h e n P e t i t i o n e r wi l l f i n i s h u p wi t h t h e t i me t h e y
`case. And then Petitioner will finish up with the time they
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`b e g i n .
`begin.
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`I t h i n k yo u a r e r e a d y, M r . B u r e s h . S o yo u ma y
`I think you are ready, Mr. Buresh. So you may
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`s u i t wi t h my c o l l e a g u e s a n d r e s e r v e 1 5 mi n u t e s f o r r e b u t t a l .
`suit with my colleagues and reserve 15 minutes for rebuttal.
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`J U D G E C OC K S : O k a y. T h a n k yo u .
`JUDGE COCKS: Okay. Thank you.
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`M R . B UR E S H: M a y I a p p r o a c h , Y o u r Ho n o r ?
`MR. BURESH: May I approach, Your Honor?
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`J U D G E C OC K S : Y e s , p l e a s e .
`JUDGE COCKS: Yes, please.
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`M R . B UR E S H: I ' m g o i n g t o b e g i n b y j u s t s a yi n g
`MR. BURESH:
`I'm going to begin by just saying
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`I t h o u g h t M r . S a t c h w e l l ' s d i s c u s s i o n o f t h e ' 4 6 3 p a t e n t t o
`I thought Mr. Satchwell's discussion of the '463 patent to
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`b e g i n t h i s mo r n i n g wa s a g o o d s u m ma r y o f t h e p a t e n t , a n d
`begin this morning was a good summary of the patent, and
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`I ' m n o t g o i n g t o r e i t e r a t e t h a t . Ho w e v e r , I d i d w a n t t o p o i n t
`I'm not going to reiterate that. However, I did want to point
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`o u t ju s t i n s t a r t i n g t h e b a s i c s e t u p o f t h e ' 4 6 3 p a t e n t .
`out just in starting the basic setup of the '463 patent.
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`A n d wh a t I me a n b y t h e s e t u p i s t h e w a y t h e
`And what I mean by the setup is the way the
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`d i s c l o s u r e i s f r a me d . I f w e l o o k a t t h e b a c k g r o u n d o f t h e
`disclosure is framed.
`If we look at the background of the
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`i n v e n t i o n , wh i c h I h a v e o n t h e E LM O , f o r s a k e o f t h e r e c o r d ,
`invention, which I have on the ELMO, for sake of the record,
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`i f w e l o o k a t t h e b a c k g r o u n d o f t h e i n v e n t i o n , wh a t w e wi l l
`if we look at the background of the invention, what we will
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`s e e i s a d i s c u s s i o n o f wh a t i s r e f e r r e d t o a s a c o n v e n t i o n a l
`see is a discussion of what is referred to as a conventional
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`c r u i s e c o n t r o l s ys t e m.
`cruise control system.
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`I t i s r e f e r r e d t o c o n s i s t e n t l y t h r o u g h o u t t h e
`It is referred to consistently throughout the
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`b a c k g r o u n d a s a c o n v e n t i o n a l c r u i s e c o n t r o l s ys t e m , a n d i t
`background as a conventional cruise control system, and it
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`d i s c l o s e s wh a t I w o u l d c o n s i d e r t h e f o u n d a t i o n a l c o mp o n e n t s
`discloses what I would consider the foundational components
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`o f a c r u i s e c o n t r o l s ys t e m, s u c h a s a s wi t c h t h a t wo u l d a l l o w
`of a cruise control system, such as a switch that would allow
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`t h e s ys t e m t o b e t u r n e d o n a n d o f f , a s wi t c h t h a t wi l l a l l o w
`the system to be turned on and off, a switch that will allow
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`t h e s p e e d t o b e s e t .
`the speed to be set.
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`I n t h e n e x t p a r a g r a p h d o wn , l i n e 2 5 , we wi l l s e e
`In the next paragraph down, line 25, we will see
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`me mo r y f u n c t i o n s wh e r e t h e p r e s e t s p e e d c a n b e s t o r e d , a l l
`memory functions where the preset speed can be stored, all
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`p a r t o f t h e c o n v e n t i o n a l s ys t e ms . I n t e r e s t i n g l y, ma n y o f t h e
`part of the conventional systems.
`Interestingly, many of the
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`distinguishing the prior art that's involved in many of these
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`p e t i t i o n s c a n a l l b e f o u n d i n t h e b a c k g r o u n d o f t h e i n v e n t i o n .
`petitions can all be found in the background of the invention.
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`I t i s j u s t p a r t s o f a c o n v e n t i o n a l c r u i s e c o n t r o l s ys t e m.
`It is just parts of a conventional cruise control system.
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`N o w , wh e n we t u r n t o N a r i t a , wh i c h i s o n e o f t h e
`Now, when we turn to Narita, which is one of the
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`primary references in this 281 proceeding, we will see the
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`i n Na r i t a a s a c o n v e n t i o n a l s ys t e m. A g a i n , i t s e t s f o r t h t h e
`in Narita as a conventional system. Again, it sets forth the
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`f o u n d a t i o n a l c o m p o n e n t s o f a c r u i s e c o n t r o l s ys t e m , a n d t h e n
`foundational components of a cruise control system, and then
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`g o e s o n t o d e s c r i b e wh a t Na r i t a h a s a d d e d t o t h a t
`goes on to describe what Narita has added to that
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`c o n v e n t i o n a l s ys t e m.
`conventional system.
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`N o w , i f we l o o k a t t h e ' 4 6 3 , wh a t h a s b e e n a d d e d
`Now, if we look at the '463, what has been added
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`t o t h e c o n v e n t i o n a l s ys t e m a r e i n d i c a t o r s t o e s s e n t i a l l y
`to the conventional system are indicators to essentially
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`d i s p l a y t o t h e o p e r a t o r o f t h e s ys t e m t h e s p e e d a n d v a r i o u s
`display to the operator of the system the speed and various
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`i n d i c a t o r s o f wh a t i s g o i n g o n wi t h t h e s ys t e m. A n d t h a t i s
`indicators of what is going on with the system. And that is
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`t h e f o c u s o f t h e ' 4 6 3 p a t e n t , i s h o w t o c o m mu n i c a t e
`the focus of the '463 patent, is how to communicate
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`i n f o r ma t i o n t o t h e o p e r a t o r . Th e e x a c t s a me f o c u s i n Na r i t a .
`information to the operator. The exact same focus in Narita.
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`I ' m g o i n g t o t u r n t o s l i d e D X - 6 , a n d i t i s
`I'm going to turn to slide DX-6, and it is
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`P e t i t i o n e r ' s D X - 6 . Th i s i s r e f e r r i n g t o , o f c o u r s e , P e t i t i o n e r s
`Petitioner's DX-6. This is referring to, of course, Petitioners
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`i n t h e 2 8 1 p r o c e e d i n g .
`in the 281 proceeding.
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`I f we l o o k a t t h e N a r i t a r e f e r e n c e - - a n d I wo u l d
`If we look at the Narita reference -- and I would
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`s t a r t wi t h f i g u r e 4 a s w e h a v e o n D X - 6 h e r e - - w e w i l l s e e
`start with figure 4 as we have on DX-6 here -- we will see
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`t h e c o n v e n t i o n a l s ys t e m i s t h e e n t i r e c i r c u i t r y o n t h e
`the conventional system is the entire circuitry on the
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`l e f t - h a n d s i d e o f f i g u r e 4 . I h a v e a n o t h e r f i g u r e i n a mi n u t e
`left-hand side of figure 4.
`I have another figure in a minute
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`t h a t w i l l s e t t h i s o u t b e t t e r . B u t wh a t i s b e i n g a d d e d b y
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`b a s i c c o mp o n e n t s . On e d i s p l a y p r o v i d e s t h e a c t u a l s p e e d o f
`basic components. One display provides the actual speed of
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`t h e v e h i c l e , wh i c h i s t h e u p p e r d i s p l a y i n N a r i t a , a n d t h e
`the vehicle, which is the upper display in Narita, and the
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`lower portion of the speedometer display is the preset speed
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`T h i s i s e x a c t l y - - w e l l , l e t me n o t s a y e x a c t l y. I
`This is exactly -- well, let me not say exactly.
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`d o n ' t wa n t t o o v e r s t a t e i t . On e i s s i d e - b y- s i d e , i n t h e ' 4 6 3
`don't want to overstate it. One is side-by-side, in the '463
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`p a t e n t , we h a v e t h e ma i n d i s p l a y, w h i c h i s t h e a c t u a l s p e e d
`patent, we have the main display, which is the actual speed
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`o f t h e v e h i c l e . On t h e l e f t , o n t h e r i g h t w e h a v e t h e p r e s e t
`of the vehicle. On the left, on the right we have the preset
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`speed.
`In Narita it is top and bottom as opposed to left and
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`r i g h t , b u t t h e i n f o r ma t i o n b e i n g c o n v e ye d i s t h e s a me .
`right, but the information being conveyed is the same.
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`N o w , t h e c o n v e n t i o n a l s ys t e m, a g a i n , f o l l o w i n g
`Now, the conventional system, again, following
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`o n t h e ' 4 6 3 d i s c l o s u r e wh e r e t h e c o n v e n t i o n a l s ys t e m i s
`on the '463 disclosure where the conventional system is
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`d e s c r i b e d f i r s t , Na r i t a p r o v i d e s f i g u r e 1 . F i g u r e 1 h a s a l l o f
`described first, Narita provides figure 1. Figure 1 has all of
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`t h e n u t s a n d b o l t s o f yo u r c r u i s e c o n t r o l s ys t e m. S o d o e s
`the nuts and bolts of your cruise control system. So does
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`F i g u r e 4 , wh i c h i s t h e a d d i t i v e p o r t i o n o f N a r i t a ,
`Figure 4, which is the additive portion of Narita,
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`e mp h a s i z e s t h e s p e e d o me t e r o r a d d s t h e s p e e d o me t e r t o t h e
`emphasizes the speedometer or adds the speedometer to the
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`c r u i s e c o n t r o l s ys t e m t h a t w a s o t h e r wi s e a l r e a d y d i s c l o s e d a s
`cruise control system that was otherwise already disclosed as
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`a c o n v e n t i o n a l s ys t e m. S o t h a t i s r e a l l y wh a t Na r i t a i s
`a conventional system. So that is really what Narita is
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`f o c u s i n g o n , i s t h i s a b i l i t y t o a d d a d i s p l a y, j u s t l i k e t h e ' 4 6 3
`focusing on, is this ability to add a display, just like the '463
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`patent.
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`J u s t l i k e t h e ' 4 6 3 p a t e n t , Na r i t a d o e s n ' t d e s c r i b e
`Just like the '463 patent, Narita doesn't describe
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`t h e c o n v e n t i o n a l s ys t e m t wi c e . I t d e s c r i b e s t h e c o n v e n t i o n a l
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`It describes the conventional
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`and descriptions thereof are omitted.
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`I n o t h e r wo r d s , we ' r e n o t g o i n g t o g o t h r o u g h a n d
`In other words, we're not going to go through and
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`d e s c r i b e a l l o f t h e c o n v e n t i o n a l c o mp o n e n t s a g a i n . We w i l l
`describe all of the conventional components again. We will
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`r e l y o n o n e d e s c r i p t i o n . An d n o w w e a r e g o i n g t o s p e a k t o
`rely on one description. And now we are going to speak to
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`w h a t i s a d d e d t o t h o s e c o n v e n t i o n a l c o mp o n e n t s . T h a t ' s t h e
`what is added to those conventional components. That's the
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`s e t u p f o r N a r i t a .
`setup for Narita.
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`N o w , t h e r e a r e a c o u p l e o f l i mi t a t i o n s t h a t P a t e n t
`Now, there are a couple of limitations that Patent
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`O w n e r c h a l l e n g e s , a n d I a m g o i n g t o a d d r e s s t h e m o n e a t a
`Owner challenges, and I am going to address them one at a
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`t i me . T h e f i r s t c o mp o n e n t t h a t P a t e n t O wn e r c l a i m s i s
`time. The first component that Patent Owner claims is
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`mi s s i n g f r o m N a r i t a i s t h e e n a b l e s wi t c h , t h e p o we r o n / p o w e r
`missing from Narita is the enable switch, the power on/power
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`o f f s wi t c h .
`off switch.
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`We h a v e c h a r t e d a n d c o n t e n d h e r e t o d a y t h a t t h e
`We have charted and contend here today that the
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`ma i n s wi t c h i n Na r i t a i s t h e e n a b l e s wi t c h o f c l a i m s 1 a n d t h e
`main switch in Narita is the enable switch of claims 1 and the
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`o t h e r c l a i ms o f t h e ' 4 6 3 p a t e n t . Th e ma i n s wi t c h i s d e p i c t e d
`other claims of the '463 patent. The main switch is depicted
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`i n f i g u r e 3 o f Na r i t a , a n d yo u s e e t h e o n / o f f s e t t i n g s .
`in figure 3 of Narita, and you see the on/off settings.
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`Wh e n t h e s ys t e m i s o n , t h e v a r i o u s o t h e r s wi t c h e s
`When the system is on, the various other switches
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`a n d v a l v e s a n d c r u i s e l a mp s a r e o p e r a b l e . Wh e n t h e s ys t e m
`and valves and cruise lamps are operable. When the system
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`i s o f f , t h e o t h e r s w i t c h e s , l a mp s , v a l v e s , e t c e t e r a , a r e a l s o
`is off, the other switches, lamps, valves, et cetera, are also
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`o f f . I t i s t h e ma i n p o we r s wi t c h .
`off.
`It is the main power switch.
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`D e s c r i b e d i n t h e w r i t t e n d e s c r i p t i o n o f N a r i t a - -
`Described in the written description of Narita --
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`t h i s i s a t p a g e 2 f l o wi n g o n t o p a g e 3 o f N a r i t a - - t h e r e i s a
`this is at page 2 flowing on to page 3 of Narita -- there is a
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`d e s c r i p t i o n o f t h e o p e r a t i o n o f t h e v e h i c l e s p e e d a u t o ma t i c
`description of the operation of the vehicle speed automatic
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`c o n t r o l d e v i c e h a v i n g t h i s t yp e o f c o n f i g u r a t i o n wi t h
`control device having this type of configuration with
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`r e f e r e n c e t o f i g u r e 3 . N o w, f i g u r e 3 i s a n o p e r a t i o n a l
`reference to figure 3. Now, figure 3 is an operational
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`diagram, how things -- essentially the flow of operation in
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`N a r i t a .
`Narita.
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`A n d , f i r s t , t h e o p e r a t i o n o f t h e v e h i c l e s p e e d
`And, first, the operation of the vehicle speed
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`a u t o ma t i c c o n t r o l d e v i c e b e g i n s wi t h t u r n i n g o n t h e ma i n
`automatic control device begins with turning on the main
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`s wi t c h . S o w e s e e t h e ma i n s wi t c h i s t h e f i r s t s t e p . Y o u
`switch. So we see the main switch is the first step. You
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`h a v e t o p o we r u p t h e s ys t e m b e f o r e yo u c a n p r o c e e d t h r o u g h
`have to power up the system before you can proceed through
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`t h e r e ma i n d e r o f t h e o p e r a t i o n s i n t h e N a r i t a r e f e r e n c e .
`the remainder of the operations in the Narita reference.
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`A l s o , o u r e x p e r t , l o o k i n g a t t h e d i s c l o s u r e o f
`Also, our expert, looking at the disclosure of
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`N a r i t a , a n d I wo u l d e c h o , a g a i n , a p o i n t M r . S a t c h we l l ma d e
`Narita, and I would echo, again, a point Mr. Satchwell made
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`e a r l i e r , t h i s i s u n d i s p u t e d . Ou r e x p e r t h a s l o o k e d a t Na r i t a
`earlier, this is undisputed. Our expert has looked at Narita
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`a n d l o o k e d a t t h e ma i n s wi t c h i n N a r i t a a n d s a i d i t i s t h e
`and looked at the main switch in Narita and said it is the
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`p o we r o n / p o we r o f f s wi t c h . I t i s t h e e n a b l e s wi t c h a s
`power on/power off switch.
`It is the enable switch as
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`r e f e r r e d t o i n t h e ' 4 6 3 p a t e n t .
`referred to in the '463 patent.
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`A n d t h a t t e s t i mo n y i s u n r e b u t t e d . I t w a s n o t
`And that testimony is unrebutted.
`It was not
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`t e s t e d t h r o u g h d e p o s i t i o n t e s t i mo n y, s o t h e r e i s n o
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`c r o s s - e x a mi n a t i o n , n o c o u n t e r - e x p e r t . Th i s i s t h e r e c o r d
`cross-examination, no counter-expert. This is the record
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`e v i d e n c e wi t h r e s p e c t t o t h e e n a b l e s wi t c h i n Na r i t a .
`evidence with respect to the enable switch in Narita.
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`T h e o t h e r l i mi t a t i o n t h a t i s b e i n g c h a l l e n g e d b y
`The other limitation that is being challenged by
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`P a t e n t O wn e r - - a n d I ' m u p t o D X - 1 4 - - i s t h e l i mi t a t i o n f r o m
`Patent Owner -- and I'm up to DX-14 -- is the limitation from
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`c l a i m 1 t h a t t h e r e b e a me mo r y w h i c h s t o r e s i n f o r ma t i o n
`claim 1 that there be a memory which stores information
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`i n d i c a t i v e o f s a i d p r e s e t s p e e d . I a m g o i n g t o b e b r i e f h e r e
`indicative of said preset speed.
`I am going to be brief here
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`b u t p l e a s e s t o p m e i f yo u h a v e a n y q u e s t i o n s .
`but please stop me if you have any questions.
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`I n N a r i t a we s e e f r o m t h e wr i t t e n d i s c l o s u r e t h a t
`In Narita we see from the written disclosure that
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`t h e r e i s wh a t i s c a l l e d a v e h i c l e s p e e d s t o r a g e p a r t t h a t s t o r e s
`there is what is called a vehicle speed storage part that stores
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`t h e v e h i c l e s p e e d w h e n s e t b y t h e s e t s w i t c h , a n d i t i s
`the vehicle speed when set by the set switch, and it is
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`storing the speed embedded in microcomputer 9. Again,
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`c o n f i r me d b y o u r e x p e r t M r . C r a wf o r d .
`confirmed by our expert Mr. Crawford.
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`M i c r o c o mp u t e r 9 i s p r e s e n t i n b o t h f i g u r e 1 a n d
`Microcomputer 9 is present in both figure 1 and
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`figure 4. Again, the description is taken from figure 1.
`It is
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`not duplicated for figure 4 but it is the same microcomputer
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`w i t h t h e s a me s p e e d me mo r y e mb e d d e d t h e r e i n .
`with the same speed memory embedded therein.
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`T h a t t a k e s u s t o c l a i ms 1 2 a n d 1 3 . I ' m g o i n g t o
`That takes us to claims 12 and 13.
`I'm going to
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`t r e a t t h e s e a s k i n d o f a t wo - f o r - o n e . Th e y a r e r e l a t e d
`treat these as kind of a two-for-one. They are related
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`l i mi t a t i o n s , s l i g h t l y d i f f e r e n t wo r d i n g , b u t t h e i d e a i s
`limitations, slightly different wording, but the idea is
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`s i mi l a r . I n b o t h o f t h e s e t h e s ymb o l t h a t i n d i c a t e s t h e s e t
`similar.
`In both of these the symbol that indicates the set
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`s p e e d i s b e i n g r e mo v e d wh e n t h e c r u i s e c o n t r o l s ys t e m i s
`speed is being removed when the cruise control system is
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`e i t h e r d e a c t i v a t e d o r a n e w c r u i s i n g s p e e d i s s e l e c t e d .
`either deactivated or a new cruising speed is selected.
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`I n t h e b r i e f i n g , t h e P a t e n t O wn e r c o n t e s t s t h e
`In the briefing, the Patent Owner contests the
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`d e a c t i v a t e d p o r t i o n . P a t e n t O wn e r d o e s n o t c o n t e s t t h a t a
`deactivated portion. Patent Owner does not contest that a
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`n e w s p e e d i s , i n f a c t , d i s p l a ye d , r e mo v i n g t h e o l d s p e e d wh e n
`new speed is, in fact, displayed, removing the old speed when
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`a n e w s p e e d i s s e l e c t e d . I s h o w t h a t i n N a r i t a , f i g u r e 5 , a f t e r
`a new speed is selected.
`I show that in Narita, figure 5, after
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`a c c e l e r a t i o n .
`acceleration.
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`So we have, again, on the bottom of Narita you
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`h a v e yo u r p r e s e t s p e e d o f 7 0 . Th e a c t u a l s p e e d h a s b e e n
`have your preset speed of 70. The actual speed has been
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`a c c e l e r a t e d t o 7 5 a n d t h e n t o 8 0 , a t wh i c h p o i n t , yo u s e e i n
`accelerated to 75 and then to 80, at which point, you see in
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`t h e a s s o c i a t e d f i g u r e , t h e s e t b u t t o n i s t r i g g e r e d a n d t h e n e w
`the associated figure, the set button is triggered and the new
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`s p e e d i s s e t . S o t h e s e t s p e e d i s a d ju s t e d f r o m 7 0 u p t o 8 0
`speed is set. So the set speed is adjusted from 70 up to 80
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`a f t e r a n a c c e l e r a t i o n o f t h e v e h i c l e .
`after an acceleration of the vehicle.
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`a g a i n b a s e d u p o n t h e i d e a o f me m o r y, t h a t we h a v e t o k e e p
`again based upon the idea of memory, that we have to keep
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`d a t a c o r r e s p o n d i n g t o t h e p r e s e t s p e e d i n a me mo r y d e v i c e .
`data corresponding to the preset speed in a memory device.
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`A n d t h e a d d i t i o n i n t h i s c l a i m i s t h a t w e ' r e t a l k i n g a b o u t t h e
`And the addition in this claim is that we're talking about the
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`braking of the vehicle.
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`S o a f t e r b r a k i n g o f t h e v e h i c l e , yo u s t o p t h e
`So after braking of the vehicle, you stop the
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`ma i n t e n a n c e o f t h e s p e e d , t h e p r e s e t s p e e d , b u t yo u k e e p t h e
`maintenance of the speed, the preset speed, but you keep the
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`data corresponding to the preset speed in memory. The
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`d i s c l o s u r e , a g a i n , f r o m N a r i t a i s v e r y c l e a r o n t h i s .
`disclosure, again, from Narita is very clear on this.
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`Wh e n we h a v e a b r a k i n g o p e r a t i o n , t a k i n g t h e
`When we have a braking operation, taking the
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`vehicle speed from 70 down to 55, the preset speed is
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`ma i n t a i n e d a t 7 0 . I t i s s t o r e d i n me mo r y. I t i s c o n t i n u e d t o
`maintained at 70.
`It is stored in memory.
`It is continued to
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`be displayed at 70 miles per hour.
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`A g a i n , w e h a v e t h e e x p l i c i t me mo r y c a l l e d o u t i n
`Again, we have the explicit memory called out in
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`N a r i t a a s t h e v e h i c l e s p e e d s t o r a g e p a r t t h a t ' s e mb e d d e d i n
`Narita as the vehicle speed storage part that's embedded in
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`mi c r o c o mp u t e r 9 . A n d t h e d e s c r i p t i o n i n Na r i t a a t p a g e 6 i s
`microcomputer 9. And the description in Narita at page 6 is
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`v e r y c l e a r t h a t , a s t h e v e h i c l e b r a k e s , t h e s t o r e d v e h i c l e
`very clear that, as the vehicle brakes, the stored vehicle
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`s p e e d c o n t i n u e s t o b e d i s p l a ye d a s o n t h e s t o r e d v e h i c l e
`speed continues to be displayed as on the stored vehicle
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`d i s p l a y u n i t 3 7 .
`display unit 37.
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`A n d ju s t t o wr a p u p , I ' m n o t e x a c t l y s u r e wh e r e
`And just to wrap up, I'm not exactly sure where
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`P a t e n t O wn e r i s g o i n g wi t h t h i s o n e , b u t t o t h e e x t e n t t h e y
`Patent Owner is going with this one, but to the extent they
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`a r e s a yi n g i t i s d i s p l a ye d b u t n o t s t o r e d , t h e i n s t i t u t i o n
`are saying it is displayed but not stored, the institution
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`d e c i s i o n , P a p e r 1 7 t o 2 3 , h a s a l r e a d y a d d r e s s e d t h a t . I a g r e e
`decision, Paper 17 to 23, has already addressed that.
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`h a s s a i d wi t h r e s p e c t t o Na r i t a , i t i s s t o r e d i n t h e v e h i c l e
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