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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`UNIFIED PATENTS INC.
`SAP AMERICA, INC.
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`Petitioners
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`CLOUDING IP, LLC
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`Patent Owner
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`IPR2013-00586
`IPR2014-00306
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`U.S. Patent No. 6,738,799
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`PETITIONERS’ JOINT REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
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`Petitioners’ Joint Request for Oral Argument
`IPR2013-00586; IPR2014-00306
`U.S. Patent No. 6,738,799
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`Pursuant to the Board’s March 21, 2014 Scheduling Order (Paper 10),
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`Petitioners Unified Patents Inc. and SAP America, Inc. respectfully request oral
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`argument, currently scheduled for October 16, 2014. Petitioners request one hour
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`of argument time. Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70, Petitioners specify the following
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`issues to be argued:
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`1. Claim construction:
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`a. Any attempts by the Patent Owner to oppose the Board’s
`claim construction in the Decision to Institute (Paper 9),
`including, but not limited to, “command . . . to copy,”
`“command . . . to insert,” “determining whether the second
`computer has a latest version of the file,” and “generating an
`update, if the second computer does not have a latest version
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`b. The claim construction of any claims brought into issue by
`the Patent Owner.
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`c. Any claim construction issues discussed in Petitioners’
`Opposition to Patent Owner’s Contingent Motion to Amend,
`including the construction of the terms “segments” and
`“ends of each of the segments of the earlier version of the
`file are defined by segment delimiters that are statistically
`determined to be optimal division points for the segments.”
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`2. Claims 1, 12, 23, 24, 30, 31, 37, and 42 are unpatentable as
`anticipated by Williams under 35 U.S.C. § 102(e).
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`3. Claims 5-10 and 16-21 are unpatentable as obvious over Williams
`and Miller under 35 U.S.C. § 103(a).
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`4. Claims 37 and 42 are unpatentable as anticipated by Balcha under
`35 U.S.C. § 102(e).
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`5. Claims 1, 5, 9, 10, 12, 16, 20, 21, 23, 24, 30, and 31 are
`unpatentable as obvious over Balcha and Miller under 35 U.S.C. §
`103(a).
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`6. Claims 6-8 and 17-19 are unpatentable as obvious over Balcha,
`Miller, and Freivald under 35 U.S.C. § 103(a).
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`7. Claims 37 and 42 are unpatentable as obvious over Balcha and
`Freivald under 35 U.S.C. § 103(a).
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`8. Patent Owner’s Contingent Motion to Amend should be denied for
`the reasons provided in Petitioners’ Opposition, including:
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`a. Patent Owner has failed to meet its burden and cannot show
`patentability of substitute claim 47 over the prior art of
`record in this proceeding and the prior art in general,
`including Harlan.
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`b. The new limitation in claim 47 is not enabled under 35
`U.S.C. § 112, first paragraph.
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`In the event any fees are required for this Request, please charge Deposit
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`Account No. 15-0030.
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`/Michael L. Kiklis/
`Michael L. Kiklis (Reg. No. 38,939)
`Scott A. McKeown (Reg. No. 42,866)
`Oblon Spivak
`1940 Duke Street
`Alexandria, Virginia 22314
`Tel: (703) 413-3000
`CPdocketKiklis@oblon.com
`CPdocketMcKeown@oblon.com
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`Attorneys for Petitioner
`Unified Patents Inc.
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`/Frank C. Cimino, Jr./
`Frank C. Cimino, Jr. (Reg. No. 39,945)
`Megan S. Woodworth (Reg. No. 53,655)
`S. Gregory Herrman (Reg. No. 66,271)
`DICKSTEIN SHAPIRO LLP
`1825 Eye Street, NW
`Washington, DC 20006-5403
`Tel: (202) 420-2200
`CiminoF@dicksteinshapiro.com
`WoodworthM@dicksteinshapiro.com
`HerrmanG@dicksteinshapiro.com
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`Attorneys for Petitioner
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.6(e), the undersigned certifies service of
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`PETITIONERS’ JOINT REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT on the counsel of
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`record for CLOUDING IP, LLC by filing this document through the Patent Review
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`Processing System as well as by delivering a copy via electronic mail to the
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`following address:
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`Tarek Fahmi
`Ascenda Law Group
`84 W. Santa Clara St.
`Suite 550
`San Jose CA 95113
`tarek.fahmi@ascendalaw.com
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`/Michael L. Kiklis/
`Michael L. Kiklis
`Reg. No. 38,939
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`Dated: September 11, 2014
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