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` UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
` BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`WINTEK CORPORATION |
` Petitioner, |
` v. | Case IPR2013-00567
`TPK TOUCH SOLUTIONS | Patent 8,217,902
` Patent Owner. |
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`WINTEK CORPORATION |
` Petitioner, |
` v. | Case IPR2013-00568
`TPK TOUCH SOLUTIONS | Patent 8,217,902
` Patent Owner. |
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` Thursday, March 27, 2014
` 2:00 p.m. EST
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` Teleconference before the Patent Trial and Appeals
`Board, Judge Josiah C. Cocks presiding, the proceedings
`being recorded stenographically by Jonathan Wonnell, a
`Registered Professional Court Reporter (NCRA #835577)
`and Notary Public of the State of Minnesota, and
`transcribed under his direction.
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`202-220-4158
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`Henderson Legal Services, Inc.
`www.hendersonlegalservices.com
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`Wintek Exhibit 1014
`Wintek v. TPK Touch Solutions
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` A P P E A R A N C E S O F C O U N S E L
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` On behalf of the Patent Trial and Appeal
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` JOSIAH C. COCKS, ESQ., Administrative
` Patent Judge
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` On behalf of TPK Touch Solutions:
` JOSEPH RICHETTI, ESQ.
` Bryan Cave LLP
` 1290 Avenue of the Americas
` New York, New York 10104-3300
` (212) 541-2000
` joe.richetti@bryancave.com
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` A P P E A R A N C E S (Cont'd)
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` On behalf of Wintek Corporation.:
` JOSEPH E. PALYS, ESQ.
` Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett &
` Dunner, LLP
` Two Freedom Square
` 11955 Freedom Drive
` Reston, Virginia 20190-5675
` (571) 203-2700
` joseph.palys@finnegan.com
` -- and --
` NAVEEN MODI, ESQ.
` Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett &
` Dunner, LLP
` 901 New York Avenue, N.W.
` Washington, D.C. 20005
` (202) 408-4000
` naveen.modi@finnegan.com
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` ALSO PRESENT:
` JONATHAN WONNELL, Court Reporter
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` P R O C E E D I N G S
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` JUDGE COCKS: Good morning. This is
`Judge Cocks. May I ask who else is on the call,
`starting with the Petitioner, please?
` MR. PALYS: Hi, Your Honor. This is
`Joseph Palys with Finnegan Henderson and with me is
`Naveen Modi.
` JUDGE COCKS: All right. Thank you.
`And for the patent owner?
` MR. RICHETTI: Good afternoon, Your
`Honor. It's Joseph Richetti for TPK Touch
`Solutions, Inc.
` JUDGE COCKS: Okay. Very good. Thank
`you. And do we have a court reporter on the call?
` MR. PALYS: We do, Your Honor.
` THE REPORTER: Yes, sir. Jon Wonnell.
` JUDGE COCKS: Okay. Thank you. All
`right. This is the initial conference call for
`Inter Partes Review proceedings 2013-00567 and 568.
`The purposes of the call is to discuss any issues
`with the scheduling order that the parties might
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`have and to discuss any motions that are
`contemplated.
` Now, prior to the call the petitioners
`filed a paper indicating that they do not
`contemplate filing any motions at this time. Is
`that correct?
` MR. PALYS: That's correct, Your Honor.
`At this time that's correct.
` JUDGE COCKS: Okay. And the patent
`owner has filed a paper indicating they may be
`contemplating a motion to amend. Is that correct?
` MR. RICHETTI: That's correct, Your
`Honor.
` JUDGE COCKS: Okay. Well, let me just
`before we get into that briefly ask do you have any
`concrete thoughts about a motion to amend or was
`that more of a placeholder comment, which is not
`necessary but just let's characterize it that way?
` MR. RICHETTI: Yes. I do believe, Your
`Honor, it was more of a placeholder. We haven't
`made a final decision. We're still reviewing it.
`And we appreciate that if we do decide to move for
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`a motion to amend, we will reach out to the board
`to ask for -- to have a conference call before
`submitting one.
` JUDGE COCKS: Yes. Good. Very good.
`That's the point of my comment, so I'm glad you are
`aware. So this conference call will not count as
`the conference that is specified by the rules.
` MR. PALYS: That's correct, Your Honor.
` JUDGE COCKS: All right. Thank you. So
`I'd actually like to speak briefly before we get to
`the scheduling order a matter -- related matters.
`The board is aware of the ex parte reexamination
`with respect to the involved payment, the
`8,217,902, and the district court litigation.
` Now, the board is also aware that the
`parties have filed a joint motion to stay the ex
`parte reexamination and that motion has not yet
`been decided but it will be decided in a separate
`order. I'd like to ask about the status of the
`district court litigation. Either party.
` MR. PALYS: Sure, Your Honor. This is
`Joseph Palys for Wintek. Just a couple points.
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`Regarding the litigation right now the case is
`still pending. Discovery has begun and we're just
`starting the claim construction preliminary phase
`of the case.
` JUDGE COCKS: All right. Thank you.
` MR. PALYS: And I don't know if this is
`a good time to bring this up. I was going to wait
`till the schedule. But I just want to make sure
`the board is aware that yesterday Wintek had filed
`a new petition on the '902 that addressed four
`claims.
` We can -- I guess it would be probably
`be better to talk about that in the context of the
`scheduling order but I wanted to make sure the
`board was aware of that because it might have some
`adjustments. And we also have a motion for a
`joinder with that one.
` JUDGE COCKS: Okay. All right. Let's
`get into the scheduling order then. So it sounds
`like there -- at first blush is there any issue
`before we get into any other matter?
` MR. RICHETTI: Well, Your Honor -- this
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`is Joseph Richetti for patent owner. There was one
`other issue that if I could raise before we
`actually get into the scheduling order and the
`dates, I would just request permission to do so.
` JUDGE COCKS: All right. Go ahead,
`please.
` MR. RICHETTI: Sure. While we didn't
`put down a motion for additional discovery on our
`list of motions, there has come to our attention
`that Wintek's expert has provided testimony in an
`ITC investigation. And it appears very relevant to
`some of the positions that, you know, if -- from
`what we can see from the public record it appears
`to be potentially inconsistent with statements that
`he's made in this IPR in his declaration.
` And so we weren't sure whether or not
`that would just fall under routine discovery as
`part of petitioner's burden or if it's something
`that we would need to request like additional
`discovery. And so we're really just seeking the
`Court's guidance on how to move forward with trying
`to obtain this information.
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`because, you know, we know the ITC investigation
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`that we were able to pull and why we believe
`they're relevant. But we were just -- I didn't
`know how to position it.
` It didn't seem like additional discovery
`because it seems like it falls under the routine
`discovery that the parties have to provide. But I
`just really was looking for some guidance on this
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` JUDGE COCKS: Well, so is this
`information -- have the parties discussed, whatever
`discovery is characterized as, exchanging it
`between themselves without the board's enforcement?
` MR. RICHETTI: Right. We had not, Your
`Honor. I had learned of this very recently and I
`have not had an opportunity to reach out to
`petitioner's counsel. And if the suggestion is to
`do that first, I'd be more than happy to. But I
`just didn't know -- I just didn't want it to seem
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`discovery that we failed to put it down.
` JUDGE COCKS: No. I understand. You
`are not at this time prejudiced from seeking
`authorization at some later time. But, yes, having
`been through a number of these proceedings, it is
`almost universally the best approach for the
`parties to discuss prior to entering into some sort
`of motion for the discovery.
` MR. RICHETTI: Understood, Your Honor,
`and we will reach out to petitioner's counsel to
`discuss this further.
` JUDGE COCKS: Okay. Thank you. We
`would appreciate that.
` Okay. I guess now on to the dates and I
`guess the influence of this additional petition.
`We will go -- well, let's start with the petitioner
`about that issue I suppose.
` MR. PALYS: Sure, Your Honor. As far as
`the schedule is concerned for these two matters,
`the 00567 and 00568 matters, the schedules as is
`for these matters, we don't have any changes or
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`mentioned, that may have an effect on it and that's
`why I wanted to take some time and talk about that
`with the board.
` JUDGE COCKS: Okay. It may very well,
`but I'm sure you can appreciate that right now is
`too preliminary to really get into adjustments of
`the schedule certainly here and in connection with
`a new petition that has not yet been -- no trial
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` MR. PALYS: Right.
` JUDGE COCKS: So we can't really speak
`to that issue. Certainly a joinder at this point
`is premature at this point because there is nothing
`to join right now. There is nothing to join at
`this particular time. So it is unfortunately
`premature for this conversation.
` MR. PALYS: I certainly appreciate that,
`Your Honor. I just wanted to make sure that the
`board was aware of it.
` JUDGE COCKS: Well, thank you for making
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` MR. PALYS: Okay.
` JUDGE COCKS: But as it stands now the
`parties don't have an issue with the scheduling
`order, and with the caveat that the parties may
`stipulate to changes to due dates 1 to 3 without
`any more board involvement? Just provide notice if
`that's the case.
` All right. Moving on then, I'd like the
`parties to be aware that at this time there is no
`protective order that has been entered into the
`case. Do the parties anticipate at this time a
`need for a protective order?
` MR. RICHETTI: I'm sorry. This is
`Joseph Richetti for patent owner. I guess, Your
`Honor, there could arise situations with some
`evidence potentially for secondary considerations
`where there could be a need for a protective order.
`We'd be more than happy to use the standard
`protective order through the IPR proceedings.
` JUDGE COCKS: Okay. Well, so -- and
`using the default -- by "standard" I take it you
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`mean the default standing protective order that
`appears in the practice guide, appendix B, I
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` MR. RICHETTI: Yup. Right.
` JUDGE COCKS: That generally is
`preferable from the board's standpoint because it
`will almost certainly be -- any protective order is
`entered provisionally, but it would almost
`certainly be entered without any difficulty. But
`should the parties need to propose some sort of
`deviation, they should file a red-lined version and
`let us know what the deviation -- agreed-to
`deviation is. So this may be a tad preliminary,
`but just letting the parties know.
` I guess as far as discovery issues go if
`the parties would please -- we spoke of that
`briefly, if they could get together initially and
`then hopefully resolve any disputes in that regard
`between themselves, but if they can't then schedule
`a call with the board and we will proceed based on
`that call.
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`there been any discussions at all?
` MR. PALYS: This is Joseph Palys, Your
`Honor. Not that I am aware of.
` JUDGE COCKS: And just for completeness,
`Mr. Richetti?
` MR. RICHETTI: Well, I'm not involved in
`the litigation, Your Honor. My understanding is
`that there may have been some very early on or
`initial settlement conference or -- you know, but
`nothing substantial. You know, I think the parties
`are still working on that, hopefully. But, again,
`I'm not involved in that side of the case.
` JUDGE COCKS: Okay. I understand.
`Well, that's all I have at this time. Is there any
`other questions or issues from the parties? Let's
`start with the petitioner.
` MR. PALYS: No, Your Honor.
` JUDGE COCKS: And Mr. Richetti for the
`patent owner?
` MR. RICHETTI: Nothing else, Your Honor.
`We appreciate your time and insight on some of
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` JUDGE COCKS: Well, you are welcome.
`Because there is a court reporter and we are going
`to have a transcript of this call -- I believe this
`was the petitioner's court reporter. Is that
`correct?
` MR. PALYS: That right, Your Honor.
` JUDGE COCKS: If you would please have a
`copy of this transcript filed into the proceedings,
`both proceedings, using your -- the latest exhibit
`number in your series, the thousand series. Is
`that understood?
` MR. PALYS: Yes, sir. We will.
` JUDGE COCKS: Okay. All right. If
`that's everything, I have nothing more and I thank
`the parties for their time and the call is
`concluded.
` MR. RICHETTI: Thank you, Your Honor.
` JUDGE COCKS: All right. Thank you.
` (Whereupon, at 2:13 p.m. EST the
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` CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
` I, Jonathan Wonnell, a Registered
`Professional Court Reporter (NCRA #835577) and
`Notary Public of the State of Minnesota, County of
`Hennepin, do hereby certify that the foregoing
`transcript is a true and accurate record of these
`proceedings; that said proceedings were taken in
`Stenotype note by me on the 27th day of March,
`2014, commencing at 2:00 p.m. EST and ending at
`2:13 p.m. EST.
` I further certify that present on behalf
`of Party Wintek Corporation were Joseph Palys,
`Esq., and Naveen Modi, Esq., of Finnegan,
`Henderson, Farabow, Garrett & Dunner, LLP; and on
`behalf of Party TPK Touch Solutions, Inc., was
`Joseph Richetti, Esq., of Bryan Cave LLP.
` I further certify that I am not related
`to, nor associated with any of the parties or their
`attorneys, nor do I have any disqualifying
`interest, personal or financial, in the actions
`within.
` Dated this 27th day of March, 2014, in
`Hennepin County, Minnesota.
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`_________________________________________
`Jonathan Wonnell
`Notary Public, Hennepin County, Minnesota
`My Commission expires January 31, 2017
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