`Patent 6,451,300
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`CONOPCO, INC. d/b/a UNILEVER
`Petitioner
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`THE PROCTER & GAMBLE COMPANY
`Patent Owner
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`PATENT OWNER’S REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
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`Mail Stop “PATENT BOARD”
`Patent Trial and Appeal Board
`U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
`P.O. Box 1450
`Alexandria, VA 22313-1450
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(a), Patent Owner The Procter & Gamble
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`Company (“Patent Owner”) requests an opportunity to present oral argument
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`regarding the patentability of the instituted claims of U.S. Patent No. 6,974,569
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`(“the ’569 patent”) and U.S. Patent No. 6,451,300 (“the ’300 patent”).
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`In particular, Patent Owner requests a combined oral hearing for IPR2013-
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`00505 and IPR2013-00509, with 60 minutes total per side for arguments, including
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`rebuttals. Patent Owner further requests the following oral argument structure:
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`The cases should be argued in sequence starting with IPR2013-00505. Once both
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`parties have had an opportunity to present argument as to IPR2013-00505, the
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`hearing will proceed to IPR2013-00509. Each party may allocate its time among
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`the two cases as it wishes.
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`The Board has used the oral argument structure above in circumstances
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`involving hearings of multiple proceedings. See Clio USA, Inc. v. The Procter And
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`Gamble Co., IPR2013-00438, Paper No. 38, Order Trial Hearing (P.T.A.B. July 1,
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`2014).
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`Patent Owner requests (without waiving consideration of any issue not listed
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`below) that the oral hearing address the following issues:
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`1. Claim construction of the four indices of the ’569 patent’s claims and
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`whether the purported tests cited by Petitioner are materially different
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`from those in the ’569 patent’s claims;
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`2. The failure of Kanebo to render obvious the instituted claims of
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`the ’569 patent;
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`3. The failure of Kanebo and/or Evans to invalidate the instituted claims
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`of the ’300 patent;
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`4. Patent Owner’s Motions to Exclude Evidence, to be filed on October
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`14, 2014, and Petitioner’s responses thereto (if any);
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`5. Petitioner’s Motion(s) to Exclude Evidence (if any), and Patent
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`Owner’s responses thereto; and
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`6. Any additional issues on which the Board seeks clarification.
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`For oral argument, which will be held November 7, 2014, Patent Owner
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`requests to use audio/visual equipment to display demonstrative exhibits, including
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`the use of a projector and screen for a PowerPoint display. In accordance with the
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`Trial Practice Guide, 77 Fed. Reg. at 48768, Patent Owner will contact the Board
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`Trial Division paralegal to discuss this request.
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`Dated: October 3, 2014
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`/s/ David M. Maiorana
`David M. Maiorana (Reg. No. 41,449)
`John V. Biernacki (Reg. No. 40,511)
`Thomas R. Goots (admitted pro hac vice)
`Michael S. Weinstein (Reg. No. 62,446)
`JONES DAY
`North Point
`901 Lakeside Avenue
`Cleveland, Ohio 44114-1190
`Tel: (216) 586-3939 / Fax: (216) 579-0212
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`Steven W. Miller (Reg. No. 31,984)
`Carl J. Roof (Reg. No. 37,708)
`Angela K. Haughey (Reg. No. 56,373)
`THE PROCTER & GAMBLE COMPANY
`299 E. Sixth Street, Cincinnati, Ohio 45202
`Tel: (513) 983-1100 / Fax: (513) 945-2729
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`Attorneys For Patent Owner
`The Procter & Gamble Company
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.6, the undersigned certifies that on October 3,
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`2014, a copy of the foregoing Patent Owner’s Request For Oral Argument, was
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`served by email, pursuant to agreement of the Parties, on the following:
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`Joseph P. Meara, Esq.
`jmeara-PGP@foley.com
`FOLEY & LARDNER LLP
`150 E. Gilman Street, Suite 5000
`Madison, WI 53703
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`Matthew J. Becker
`Jonathan A. Harris
`mbecker@axinn.com
`jharris@axinn.com
`AXINN, VELTROP &
`HARKRIDER LLP
`90 State House Square
`9th Floor
`Hartford, CT 06103
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`Michael R. Houston, Esq.
`mhouston@foley.com
`Jeanne M. Gills, Esq.
`jmgills@foley.com
`FOLEY & LARDNER LLP
`321 North Clark Street, Suite 2800
`Chicago, IL 60654
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`Edward A. Squillante
`Ronald A. Koatz
`edward.a.squillante@unilever.com
`ronald.koatz@unilever.com
`UNILEVER
`700 Sylvan Avenue
`Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632
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`/s/ David M. Maiorana
`David M. Maiorana
`Registration No. 41,449
`JONES DAY
`North Point
`901 Lakeside Avenue
`Cleveland, Ohio 44114-1190
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`Attorney For Patent Owner
`The Procter & Gamble Company
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