`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`Login:
`r··-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·
`
`Password:
`
`Lost Password?
`
`Search:
`~-................... ·.················································································· ! All Articles
`
`• •••••
`
`Search ·~
`·········································;=
`Advanced
`Search
`
`" Newswireffim
`rTl
`" HelpLiiJ
`
`,. Submit News[lliill
`
`8(il3 WM~me ~1ow $399
`G<1d<!0.ts ~or aH ae:~~s
`Shop innovative products & toys Fantastic Gifts Get it at the Apple Online Store. Purchase
`from Sharper Image.
`today, get free shipping.
`www .a pr.de.-::om/~tore
`wvvvv .:~hz rperime:~,Je.com
`
`Ads by Google
`lphone Mobile Phone
`Print this article I E-mail this article
`
`Latest lphone News
`lphone Rip
`Comment on this article
`
`lphone Price
`
`iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`By Nate Mook, BetaNews
`
`ly 6, 2007, 3:34PM
`
`Th0. A!H'-.!ew IB~ac~Bmnt~i}
`Need a New Device With Incredible Features
`While Keeping Your Plan?
`\·VWW .BlackBerry .corn,iY-:-;u rCh-:-.dce
`
`-
`
`lphone Pricing
`
`PERSPECTIVE Regardless of whether or not you bought into the flash and hype that accompanied the iPhone's launch, Apple's
`newest device is important not for what features it brings, but for what it makes obsolete. The death knell has been rung for the
`mobile Web.
`
`Since the late 1990s when cell phones began doing more than just making calls and sending text messages, the concept of easily
`browsing the Web while on the go has loomed large. But despite the efforts of numerous companies and support from the W3C
`eb standards body, the effort has largely failed.
`
`The idea of a mobile Web was straight forward: create versions
`of Web sites that are compatible with the limited capabilities
`and small screens of cell phones. Best practices were
`established for sites to follow, and a "mobileOK" label was
`pushed by the W3C.
`
`"The Mobile Web Initiative's goal is to make browsing the Web from
`mobile devices a reality", said Tim Berners-Lee, W3C Director and
`inventor of the Web. "W3C and mobile industry leaders are working
`together to improve Web content production and access for mobile
`users and the greater Web."
`
`A new domain name was even established for the mobile Web: .mobi.
`In order to obtain a .mobi domain, a company had to follow a set of
`rules to ensure the domain would be compatible. The registrar offered
`tools such as a site builder and analyzer to aid the effort, and touted a
`large number of registrations shortly after the domain went live.
`
`13 industry players backed the initiative, including Ericsson, Google,
`Microsoft, Nokia, Samsung, T-Mobile, and Vodafone among others.
`
`1 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041905
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-1
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`IThe emergence of new Web standards such as XHTML and more advanced CSS were also supposed to help the effort. The
`technologies separated content from the markup that defined how it would be displayed, enabling mobile browsers to reformat
`Web pages for the small screen.
`
`Except for large companies like Yahoo, Google and AOL, however, few Web sites offer secondary pages for the mobile Web.
`The issue is a catch 22: companies don't want to devote their resources to building something few people will use, and nobody
`will bother browsing the Web on a phone when so few sites can be viewed properly.
`
`Accessing the Web on most mobile phones is an unreliable, and frequently painful, experience. Regardless of the costs involved
`-- 3G data service can run wireless subscribers $50 per month or more, while slower data plans cost $20 per month -- it's just not
`pleasant.
`
`Pocket IE, a staple of Microsoft's Windows Mobile platform is largely useless for loading anything but pages specially designed
`for mobile browsers. Opera Mini arguably does a better job, but requires Java and does not work on many popular phones such
`as the Samsung Blackjack. The Palm OS browser is a relic at this point.
`
`This is what makes the iPhone's debut especially important, because an answer has finally been found. And reviewers are
`heralding it as the first time the Web has been actually usable on a phone.
`
`Apple's response to redesigning the Web for mobile devices? Don't. Instead of putting the requirement on developers of sites or
`creating a special subset of the Internet for the mobile Web, the iPhone simply makes the real, full Internet completely accessible
`for the first time on a small screen.
`
`Specifically, Apple has included a version of its Safari browser in the iPhone. Users can load up full Web pages-- images and
`frames and all-- that can be zoomed in on by flicking two fingers on the screen. Specific page elements can be "clicked" with a
`finger, centering them and increasing their size for reading. The iPhone even opens multiple Web pages at once, similar to how
`tabs work in modern browsers.
`
`The idea is not necessarily new. Microsoft is taking a similar approach with a technology preview it calls Deepfish. Deepfish is a
`mobile Web browser that lets a user view a portion of a Web page in a more normal view by providing a grey view port-- a kind of
`frame that slides over the full page view --which can be zoomed in or repositioned with the joystick.
`
`Microsoft has also expressed its disproval of the mobile Web initiative and .mobi, saying that the burden should be on software
`makers, not Web developers. But Deepfish hasn't gotten very far (it's still considered an experimental research project at
`Microsoft) and the program itself is quite buggy.
`
`Apple, in the meantime, has proven that this solution is not only possible, but far more useful. And other software and hardware
`manufacturers are taking note. Nokia is reportedly licensing new touch screen technology, which could make its way into
`handsets as soon as next year. Microsoft surely won't sit back and let Apple retain the mobile browsing crown; expect an update
`to Pocket IE in the near future.
`
`Even with a million units sold in the United States and European launches months away, the iPhone itself won't have enough
`reach to kill the idea of a separate, mobile-oriented Web. What Apple has done, however, is awoken other companies to what is
`possible when you go back to the drawing board and rethink an approach that just doesn't work.
`
`Just as it redefined the music industry-- the way songs are sold and listened to on the go-- with the iPod, Apple has done the
`same with the Internet on the iPhone. Revolutionary? Maybe not, but personal computers existed before the Macintosh and
`operating systems before Windows 95. Sometimes, all you need is a little innovation to reach the tipping point that changes an
`industry forever.
`
`Add a Comment (52 Comments)
`
`BetaNews reserves the right to remove any comment at any time for any reason. Please keep your responses
`appropriate and on topic. Foul language and personal attacks will not be tolerated.
`
`Name (required):
`
`E-mail (required):
`
`r································································································-·-·-·-
`
`Enter Your Comment:
`
`2 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041906
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-2
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`Post Your Comment
`....................................................
`
`By shashib edited Oct 12, 2007 - 10:16 PM
`
`While in theory devices will become more sophisticated and intelligently browse the internet. In todays world when i
`want to see a restaurant website all I need is a few kep pieces of information , so there is a need to the business to
`have a seperate mobile website where they have the phone number, diections right up front.
`
`The iphone may not change this very much. I agree with mobidude as I have aT-Mobile Dash and i can browse what
`the iPhone can do .
`
`Http://www.buildmymobi.com is a mobile website builder tool for small business
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~.~~! .. ~.~.:.e~.r...J
`
`By xTwoStepx edited Jul 13, 2007 - 11 :25 PM
`
`Whenever there is something apple based, all the PC users come attacking. What are you afraid of? The tech might
`have been around before but the iPhone has made it noticeable and therefore creates a large impact. I for one (a
`newly mac convert) would like an iPhone but refuse to because of its carrier. I would also prefer to wait for a v2 to
`come out since the current release isn't fully up to date with the tech available.
`
`As far as the term out dated ... It is not in reference to the companies supporting .mobi its the tech itself. And IMO it
`always sucked and is seriously a poor attempt at the web. Phones these days are being made cheaper and cheaper.
`Almost feel like a playschool toy in my hand. With the money they are saving on quality, maybe companies should
`spend more on their software developers.
`
`My 2 cents ... Don't bother flaming, I don't plan on looking to see if anyone replies.
`
`Score: 0
`
`...... ~~-~! .. ~.~~.E~x..J
`
`By ziplock9000 edited Jul 12, 2007 - 10:31 AM
`
`The iPhone is not the first devide of it's kind to do this. I have the Nokia N95 which was out before the iPhone, it loads
`'normal' webpaqes and at 3.5G speeds.
`
`Score: 0
`
`3 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041907
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-3
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`By steve364 posted Jul 11, 2007 - 7:07 PM
`
`"the first time the Web has been actually usable on a phone." Get real - I have been using Nokia Communicators for
`years. They have WAP capability but I have never bothered to use that because they can surf normal web pages with
`the built in browser. As a plus the communicator has a real keyboard and joystick device. I think that an i-phone is a
`step backwards- you should take the time to do a comparison between the Communicator & the iphone.
`
`Score: 0
`
`By MobiDude posted Jul 11, 2007 - 1 :44 PM
`
`Drumcat, you say ".mobi and it's associates are dated and dying"?? So, what you're saying is Google, Nokia,
`Microsoft, Ericsson, Samsung, T-mobile, Vodafone .... all of the companies behind dotMobi and the mobile Internet are
`"dated and dying"? That is a ridiculous statement. Ther are already over a half a mol lion dotMobi domains registered,
`with several International brands launching mobile websites. The mobile Internet is here, it is real, and it is used much
`differently that the wired web. If you don't see that, maybe you should try taking your head out of the sand (or
`wherever it may be).
`
`Score: 0
`
`By drumcat posted Jul 10, 2007 - 7:46 PM
`
`Yes and no. Yes .mobi and its associates are dated and dying. No, iPhones aren't doing it. It may help, but the
`concept of mobile sites has been and always will be a red-headed stepchild.
`
`If iPhone is what turns the tide, so be it. But as someone else said below, a 2" screen is a 2" screen. Browser software
`needs to catch up. Phone companies need to get a clue. Content will NOT be provided in a lame format like .mobi is.
`
`I'll take a good rss reader over a cutsie browser on small phones. On bigger ones, figure it out, telcos. Make those
`flipscreens read the web. That means not cheapinq out on la-res screens.
`
`Score: 0
`
`By HelgeFossmo posted Jul 10, 2007 - 4:07 PM
`
`I agree that Apple's cell phone implementation of Safari is cool but really the whole iPhone hype is pathetic.
`
`It lacks 3G. It lacks a video camera.
`
`And considering how hyped up it is, we will now see another generation of dumb consumers buying outdated
`technology.
`
`Because of Apple ignoring modern requirements for the next generation of mobile applications to be possible, the
`consumers have been pushed back another few years from taking advantage of advanced mobile capabilities such as
`video links between cellphone and the internet.
`
`4 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041908
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-4
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`I
`
`If you claim that iPhone is one step forward then you dont know what you are talkinq about.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... !:~.~! .. <;..~!E~X ... i
`
`By incidentist edited Jul 1 0, 2007 - 12:49 AM
`
`It may reduce the need for site developers to write stripped-down versions of sites for smartphones, but it'll
`compensate by pressuring them to write iPhone-like versions of their sites. Many web apps are rushing to release
`versions of their sites that look like iPhone apps, so I don't see how the situation is improved.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~~-~! .. <;..~!.P.~Y.. ... :
`
`By rsx508 posted Jul 9, 2007 - 4:39 PM
`
`Man, the screen on the iPhone gets hard to read after your fingers get stickier surfing porn sites. If only they had a
`teflon coated screen.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... !:.~~.1 .. <;. .. ~.~E1x .. J
`
`By dpcafe edited Jul 8, 2007 - 9:53 PM
`
`The same web browsing interface has been implemeted on Nokia phones a year ago based on the same open source
`http://webkit.org/ that safari is built on. While it was cool in the beginning, it becomes tedious after a few weeks and
`you'd find the zoom-in zoom-out feature nothing but a compromise compared to PC-browsing.
`
`Mobile Web is not about the browser, but the suitability of the content for that small screen, low battery, pay-per-surf
`device you carry around all the time. It's a new way of usinq the internet and I don't think it's even started yet. ..
`
`Score: 0
`
`...... ~?.~! .. ~.~~.E~x. . .J
`
`By 1/ahsram edited Jul 9, 2007 - 2:05 PM
`
`I had a Nokia E?O before getting an iPhone. Nokia's implementation of WebKit is *nothing* like the iPhone's. Yes, it's
`the same fundamental enqine, but while Nokia's browser was barely functional, the iPhone really works.
`
`Score: 0
`
`......... !:.~.~-~ .... <;. ... ~.~P..'X ...... i
`
`5 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041909
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-5
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`I
`
`By kompression posted Jul 8, 2007 -2:48AM
`
`Let me put it this way: a 2 inch screen will always be a 2 inch screen.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~.?.~! .. ~ . .~:.~e!.r.. . .:
`
`By MobiDude edited Jul 8, 2007- 12:35 AM
`
`Wow. Keep on drinking the Kooi-Aid. The mobile Internet is indeed alive and well, and in fact, growing like crazy. Not
`only is the mobile web different that the wired web, it provides functionality (one click dialing, for instance) that
`traditional web sites do not. Besides the fact that, at FULL SALES EXPECTATIONS, only 1% of all cell phone users
`will have an iPhone.
`
`Personally, I don't think touch screens will catch on with the majority of users. I had one, and hated it. My T-Mobile
`Dash can do just about anything that the iPhone can do (many things better), and I would not trade it for one. Oh, and
`my Dash cost 1/3 the price.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... !:~.~~ .. <.l..~~P.IX ... :
`
`By some Toast posted Jul 9, 2007- 5:24 PM
`
`"Not only is the mobile web different that the wired web, it provides functionality (one click dialing, for instance) that
`traditional web sites do not."
`
`Safari on the iPhone parses out telephone numbers, so any "traditional" web site that lists a phone number supports
`one-click dialing on the iPhone.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... !:~.~~ .. <.l..~~P.IX ... :
`
`By jbella edited Jul 9, 2007- 3:14PM
`
`To say that the Dash is 1/3 the price is not telling the whole truth.
`The Dash with rebates costs $149.99
`voice plans start at $39.99
`Cheapest data plan is $29.99
`Cheapest text messaging is $4.99
`that comes to $7 4.97 /month before taxes and fees.
`Total2 year cost is $1949.27
`
`Total 2 year cost for an 8gb iPhone with the basic voice/data plan is $2038.76
`
`The difference is $89.49 or $3.72/month
`Hardly 1/3 the price.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~~-~! .. ~.~~.P.~Y.. ... :
`
`6 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041910
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-6
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`I
`
`By Morsel posted Jul 8, 2007 -2:30AM
`
`"Personally, I don't think touch screens will catch on with the majority of users. I had one, and hated it. .. " Well there's
`always a minority that doesn't like touch-screen, I guess. Thankfully, the rest of us think it's brilliant. Have fun with your
`crappy T-Mobile Dash.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~.~~! .. ~.~.:.e~.r...J
`
`By NLight95 posted Jul 7, 2007- 9:08PM
`
`Am I the only one who would rather just use a desktop or laptop PC to do my PC chores? Ask yourself, do you NEED
`a device like this? Like the iPod, I consider the iPhone a novelty. I'm a computer tech by trade and though I love to
`tinker and stay abreast of the latest technologies, I like to also find time to relax and get away from these type of
`devices that supposedly bring more convenience but end up increasing workload.
`
`Score: 0
`
`.... !:~.~! .. ~.~!.e~x. ... :
`
`By netjustin posted Jul 9, 2007 - 1:09 PM
`
`I think it's fair to say that the more PC chores we are allowed to do on a mobile device, the better. For example, I had
`a client whose mail service went down while I was on vacation. I decided to try GotomyPC Pocket PC edition and I
`have to say I was impressed by the entire situation.
`
`Not only did it work, but it rendered the remote screen quickly and visibly over EVDO. The touch screen was accurate
`and my PPC's slide-out keyboard was perfect for command prompt stuff.
`
`Anyways, I agree that a full PC is usually not something that can be replaced but it's nice to have a competent
`substitute. =1
`
`Score: 0
`
`......... !:.~.~-~--.·~---~.!£.IX. ...... :
`
`By Mystiqq posted Jul 7, 2007 - 11 :54 AM
`
`As far as im concerned, "mobile web" never existed.
`
`Score: 0
`
`.... !:~.~! .. ~.~!P..~x. . .J
`
`By 86proof posted Jul 7, 2007- 8:24AM
`
`I notice allot of you citing that Apple was not the first to offer this method of web browsing, and I find myself wanting to
`remind everyone that in the end, it won't matter who offered it first.
`
`It will only matter who was the first to successfully gain consumer acceptance and use, resulting in a profitable and
`memorable implementation/delivery of concept to the consumer. Right now the heir apparent to that title is Apple- this
`
`7 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041911
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-7
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`I however does not mean that another company such as Microsoft couldn't swoop in and take that title from Apple in
`the future.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... !:~.~! .. <;..~!E~X ... i
`
`By tnculp posted Jul 7, 2007- 9:54AM
`
`You're absolutely right, though the mac fan boys always make sure everyone knows when MS isn't the "first" on
`something.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... !:.~~-~ .. ~ .. !'3.~P.'X .. .J
`
`By 86proof posted Jul 7, 2007- 3:48PM
`
`lol am not a mac fan boy but I agree that fans of any specific product or thing are quick to point out that they beat the
`nearest competition ... even if the win ends up blurred by problems.
`
`Score: 0
`
`........... ~.?..~.t ... .'~ .. -~.:..E'Y.. ...... :
`
`By Mystiqq posted Jul 7, 2007 - 11 :52 AM
`
`I think Maddox said it best.
`
`http://www.thebestpagein ... e.net/c.cgi?u=macs cant
`
`Score: 0
`
`Post a Reply
`-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·
`
`By 86proof posted Jul 7, 2007- 3:53PM
`
`ok that site is funny- but honestly its just as extreme as the mac user sites poking fun at pc's- fortunately there are
`choices for everyone in the pc world, Windows, Linux, Apple OS- take your pic- if it works for you then it was worth
`whatever investment you put into it.
`
`and again, llol'd at that site- had me rolling:-)
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~.?.~.~ .. ~ .. ~.:..E'Y.. .. .i
`
`8 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041912
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-8
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`I
`
`By xyzcb1 posted Jul 7, 2007- 12:48 AM
`
`I saw someone with an iPhone today, and I must admit it does look slick. Only problem I am seeing it it's more like a
`mini portable video player than as a phone. Just my 2cents.
`
`Score: 0
`
`.... !:~.~! .. ~.~!.e~x. ... :
`
`By bigsexy022870 posted Jul 6, 2007- 11:51 PM
`
`well with all the iphone does. it's basically a smaller version of a laptop with the ability to make phone calls. But keep
`in mind it does cost a small fortune. Almost the cost of a decent bargan laptop. I would be interested if it cost like 400
`bucks. and if it worked with any provider. But one more thing i will never have i guess. Besides i really need a phone
`to make phone calls. not all this other crap. some of the mobile qames are nice but a lot are crap.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~.?.~! .. ~ . .~:.~e!.r.. . .:
`
`By BlackA/e edited Jul 6, 2007 - 11 :39 PM
`
`Personally I think having a large screen with a mobile is neither here or there. When you're out and about, you're most
`likely by using the web to provide particular information, like ... the quickest route to the next pub, or local taxi firms,
`etc ... You don't want a huge web page.
`
`The iPhone will probably just complicate things, as it displays whole web pages that you zoom in/out of.
`
`I MHO as usual with apple it comes down to content over style, to most mobile users it's the content that matters.
`
`The ideal future for me, would be for more web designers to embrace CSS so that content is seperate from
`presentation and that mobile devices have their own style sheet.
`
`Score: 0
`
`......... !:.~.~-~--.·~---~.!£.IX. ...... :
`
`By kompression edited Jul 8, 2007 - 3:23 PM
`
`I totally agree. The studies so far prove your reinforce. The reason for mobility is immediate access to relevant
`information. Full page browsing on the iPhone is great and all but when I'm on business trips and need to access
`information, especially when I'm on a tight schedule and constantly moving, relevance of info is top priority over
`functionality. Especially considering that the iPhone works only on EDGE I'd take a 3G enabled BlackJack over the
`iPhone any day.
`
`Score: 0
`
`......... !:.~.~-~--.·~---~.!£.IX. ...... :
`
`By Realist posted Jul 7, 2007 - 10:57 AM
`
`I don't see how the iPhone would "complicate" what you are proposing. It's by far the easiest way to accomplish
`
`9 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041913
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-9
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`lgetting "particular" information. It's obvious from your statement that you have not held one in your hands. It will take
`you all of about 5 minutes of playing with the device to decide, save for the Apple/ATT lock in limitations, it's the
`easiest functioninq hand held device you've ever held. Mobile web is a joke in contrast.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~.~~! .. ~.~.:.e~.r...J
`
`By Sex barril posted Jul 7, 2007 - 4:16 PM
`
`Perhaps if by device you mean multi-functions phone.
`
`Otherwise there are by far many devices that are easier.
`
`I will not put the whole list here, but I am sure you can come up with a few dozen :).
`
`Latz, SB
`
`Score: 0
`
`.·.·······-~-~-~-1 .... ~ .. -~.:..eLr ... .:
`
`By mocha posted Jul 6, 2007 - 7:57 PM
`
`Nokia has been doing "full web" on their s60 devices for over a year. For Jobs to say the iPhone is the first is
`laughable. The funny thing is that they accomplished it by putting none other than the Safari (WebKit) engine on their
`device.
`
`http://www. nokia .com/browser
`
`Apple just did a better job inteqratinq it with a huqe screen and touch.
`
`Score: 0
`
`........... ~-~-~-1 .... ~ .. -~.:..eLr ... .:
`
`By eoswald posted Jul 7, 2007- 12:54 AM
`
`Completely agreed Mocha. Like I've said, there is not much revolutionary about the iPhone. Clever marketing, yes :)
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~.~~! .. ~.~.:.e~.r...J
`
`By mhochman posted Jul 7, 2007 - 8:42 AM
`
`The same could be said for the iPod, it was nothing new, but apple was able to make it slick and hip, creating a buzz
`around it,
`
`There are still better players out there than the iPod, but iPod is the buzz word because apple these days is execelent
`at marketing and creating a buzz.
`
`we've had several customers come in with iPhones already, they are nifty looking little devices, and for a gadget wh***
`like myself, something i'd love to have, but not at the prices they are getting for them, it's simply too expensive.
`
`10 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041914
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-10
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`I
`
`It's the same with Mac Book Pro's I MHO, i was in the market for a new laptop, i rather like the new Mac's, so i looked
`into a macbook pro, and a dell, for a comperable machine, the dell was $1500, the Macbook was $3600, and the dell
`had better graphics (both video card and monitor) and more memory. Apple products, while very nice, are still too
`costly, and the price is artificially inflated IMHO. but guess what, people still buy it.
`
`It's all in how you spin it, and Apple has gotten very good at spinning things.
`
`Score: 0
`
`...... ~?.~! .. ~.~~.E~x. . .J
`
`By tnculp posted Jul 6, 2007 - 4:40 PM
`
`2 words: Picsel Browser
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~.?~! .. ~.~.:.e~.r.. . .J
`
`By PC_ Tool posted Jul6, 2007- 5:02PM
`
`Nice product. They could use two words though ...
`
`"Marketinq Director"
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~.?~.~--~--~-~P..'.Y. ... :
`
`By sites.web.pt posted Jul 6, 2007- 4:32 PM
`
`Opera Mini does the job! In the USA, in Portugal, in China, in the Seychelles, in Cuba; everywhere today, not in the
`future!
`
`Score: 0
`
`...... ~?.~! .. ~.~~.E~x. . .J
`
`By PC_ Tool posted Jul6, 2007- 5:01 PM
`
`Opera Mini arguably does a better job (than .mobi), but requires Java and does not work on many popular phones
`such as the Samsunq Blackjack.
`
`Score: 0
`
`......... !:.~.~-~ .... <.1. ... ~-~P..'X. ... ...:
`
`By Paul Skinner posted Jul 9, 2007 -4:48AM
`
`"but requires Java and does not work on many popular phones such as the Samsung Blackjack."
`
`11 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041915
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-11
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`Safari requires an iPhone and does not work on any phones (bar one).
`
`Personally, I think that's worse.
`
`Score: 0
`
`By PC_ Tool posted Jul6, 2007- 3:48PM
`
`One of my employees bought one and brought it in today.
`
`Although I still hold to my belief that it is eon's behind other smart-phones in terms of capability, the interface, usability,
`and novelty of the item itself screams good design.
`
`In the short time I played around with it, I set up the WiFi connection (it can access non-broadcasting SSID WPA2
`networks, which, frankly, surprised me), hopped on Google and did a search of my home phone, hit the map link and
`zero'd in on my house. Browsing the web, *any* form of typing, moving the screen around is *insanely* easy.
`
`You're right Nate, they massacred the .mobi web. There's no need for it on this device. If other companies follow suit,
`there will be no need for it period.
`
`I was also able to play around a bit with the camera (decent), music (The "album shuffle" reminded me of browsing
`through an old record store, but was basically useless), and some of the other functionality (weather, maps, etc).
`
`All in all, If I could get one that could operate all of those features mentioned above without needing a "service plan"
`(I.e., via wifi), I'd jump on it. As it stands, the requirement of AT&T and a 2 year contract will actually be keeping me
`from it.
`
`Too bad. The interface blew me away (as Apple's interfaces usually do), but the requirements/restrictions are too
`much for me to accept (which is what usually keeps me from Apple products anyway) ...
`
`... at least they're consistent. Hopefully iPhone 2.0 won't be weighed down by such requirements.
`
`Score: 1
`
`..... ~~-~! .. ~.~~.P.~Y.. ... :
`
`By methuselah posted Jul 7, 2007- 8:50PM
`
`I don't think the mobile web is dead ... in fact, I think it still has a good future. While the download speed of that WiFi
`might be decent, if you're trying to view a website on a phone that uses the equivalent of dialup, you want limited
`transfers. And if you try to view a webpage on a small phone, you can't view a webpage unless you either scroll a lot
`from side to side, or have a microscope. As small phones will always be popular, there will still be a need. But yes, if
`you've got the bandwidth and the screen size, not needed. My new phone comes with the "Blazer" browser, version
`4.5, (it's a Palm phone) and uses Sprint's wireless data network. So far it's been quite nice at my house, and I had
`weak signals on my old phone.
`
`Score: 0
`
`By Realist posted Jul 7, 2007- 12:02 AM
`
`I have to completely agree with PC Tool. I'm a Windows person through and through but my friend bought an iPhone
`and even with it's Apple/ATT lock in limitations it's absolutely astounding. While I won't be buying one I'm thankful that
`
`12of16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041916
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-12
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`I handset manufactures will be working overtime to catch up. I'm a Verizon customer and went into a Verizon store to
`"see what's new" today and there is NOTHING that would make me give up my basic phone. ALL of the handsets and
`features pale by comparison to the iPhone.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~.~~! .. ~.~.:.e~.r...J
`
`By myke posted Jul 6, 2007 - 3:42 PM
`
`I think that was the point of the iPhone that everyone missed. Even though it was the first thing Steve Jobs said right
`before he unveiled the iPhone:
`
`Let's take the 10 features people use most on their phones and make them better. Web browsing was one of them.
`
`I've had the iPhone since day 1, and everything from looking up directions to browsing eBay can be done as easily as
`if I was in front of my computer.
`
`Score: 0
`
`.·.·······-~-~-~-1 .... ~ .. -~.:..eLr ... .:
`
`By eoswald posted Jul 6, 2007 - 3:45 PM
`
`I still disagree that the iPhone changed much at all in the mobile web. Pocket IE could render full pages as well. Yes, it
`may be not as full featured as "Pocket Safari," but the qroundwork for this was laid lonq before the iPhone.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... !:~.~! .. <;..~!E~X ... i
`
`By auiotour posted Jul 6, 2007 - 4:28 PM
`
`I have used a SDA, MDA, Dash, and WING to browse mobile web with crappy IE, and 95% of the pages were skew'd
`or didn't load correctly. my iphone has vet to find a web paqe it can't display correctly. It does 1 OOx the job.
`
`Score: 0
`
`Post a Reply ~
`··································································:
`
`By nate edited Jul 6, 2007 - 3:50 PM
`
`Have you ever tried to load a Wikipedia page in Pocket IE?
`
`Unreadable.
`
`Even Microsoft agrees. From Dr. Flake, head of Microsoft Live Labs:
`
`"The majority of today's browsers use a single-column format which dynamically reformats existing pages by
`repositioning the content to fit in the limited screen size. This essentially 'crushes' the page to fit the small screen. This
`approach, while an improvement in some cases, generally results in a difficult-to-view page that requires excessive
`scrolling in order to use the portions of the page the person is trying to reach. And when you see the page, it isn't
`presented in the way the Web designer intended."
`
`13 of 16
`
`10/26/2007 2:40PM
`AB00041917
`
`SoftView Exhibit 2026-13
`Kyocera Corp. v. SoftView LLC
`IPR2013-00007
`
`
`
`BetaNews I iPhone and the Death of the Mobile Web
`
`http:/ /www.betanews.com/article/iPhone _and_ the_ Death_ of_ the_ Mobi ...
`
`IThankfully, Microsoft is workinq on a solution with Deepfish.
`
`Score: 0
`
`..... ~.?.~.~--~