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` 1 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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` 2 FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS
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` 6 )( 2:10-CV-294-JRG-RSP
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` 7 VS. )( MARSHALL, TEXAS
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` 9 PAR TECHNOLOGY CORP., )( MAY 30, 2012
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` 10 ET AL. )( 1:30 P.M.
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` 11 CLAIM CONSTRUCTION HEARING
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` 12 BEFORE THE HONORABLE JUDGE ROY S. PAYNE
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` 13 UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE
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` 17 FOR THE PLAINTIFF: (See attached sign-in sheet.)
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` 21 COURT REPORTER: MS. SHELLY HOLMES, CSR
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` 1 LAW CLERK: All rise.
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` 2 THE COURT: Good afternoon. Please be
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` 4 For the record, we are here for the Markman
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` 5 hearing in Ameranth, which is Case No. 2:10-294.
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` 6 Would counsel introduce themselves for the
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` 8 MR. PHILLIPS: Yes, Your Honor, Larry
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` 9 Phillips on behalf of plaintiff, Ameranth, and I'm here,
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` 10 Your Honor, on behalf of my partner, Michael Smith, who
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` 11 was out of town, and wanted to introduce John Osborne
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` 12 with the Osborne Law Firm who will be speaking today on
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` 13 behalf of the plaintiff. And Mike Fabiano is also here
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` 14 today. He will not be speaking. And we also have our
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` 15 client, Keith McNally, who is president and lead
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` 16 inventor with Ameranth.
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` 17 THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
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` 18 MR. JONES: Your Honor, Mike Jones on behalf
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` 19 of Par Technology and Partech, Inc., and here today with
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` 20 me representing those two defendants is Mr. Blake
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` 21 Bettinger -- Blaine Bettinger, excuse me -- and
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` 22 Mr. Frederick Price and Mr. George McGuire who will be
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` 23 making the presentation, Your Honor, and we're ready to
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` 25 THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
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` 1 I have typically found it most helpful to
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` 2 proceed on a claim-by-claim basis so that we get both
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` 3 sides making their presentation on the same claim.
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` 4 Do counsel have any preference regarding
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` 5 whether you -- it's all right with me if you proceed
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` 6 from your desk -- from the table there if that works
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` 7 better for you, as long as you're by a mic, or if you
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` 8 need the technology up here, you can just take turns at
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` 9 the lectern. Any preference one way or the other?
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` 10 MR. OSBORNE: I think probably the lectern
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` 11 for me, Your Honor.
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` 12 THE COURT: All right.
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` 13 MR. McGUIRE: Yes, Your Honor, we'll go to
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` 14 the lectern, as well.
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` 15 THE COURT: All right. Good. Well, then
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` 16 you may proceed.
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` 17 MR. OSBORNE: Your Honor, so we'll be
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` 18 proceeding on a term -- disputed term-by-term basis as
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` 20 THE COURT: And if I said claim-by-claim, I
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` 22 MR. OSBORNE: I -- we know what you meant.
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` 23 We think the same way.
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` 24 I wonder if the -- if the Court might be
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` 25 interested in a short background preliminary before I
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` 2 THE COURT: That's --
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` 3 MR. OSBORNE: -- term?
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` 4 THE COURT: That's fine.
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` 5 MR. OSBORNE: Okay. If we could go to Slide
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` 7 As -- as the background, as I was saying,
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` 8 this is the second Markman proceeding in this Court
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` 9 involving claims from the same patent family. The first
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` 10 was by Judge Everingham in 2010, as you saw in our
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` 11 briefing.
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` 12 What you did not see in our briefing was
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` 13 that a third Markman will be upcoming in this Court on a
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` 14 newly-issued patent that was issued in March of this
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` 15 year. The case is 2:12-164. It was filed shortly
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` 16 after the patent issued. We'll be serving that
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` 18 Your Honor, so there will be a hope for consistency
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` 20 THE COURT: That's always helpful.
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` 21 MR. OSBORNE: So we just wanted to make you
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` 23 because the Markmans already exist, there's another one
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` 25 THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
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` 1 MR. OSBORNE: On Slide 3, we just have small
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` 4 Ameranth patent family that is not asserted is the third
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` 5 one over, the '733 patent, and then the new patent, the
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` 6 '077, is the one upcoming in the third case, the second
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` 7 case against the Par defendants.
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` 8 The '850 and '325 patents are the ones
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` 9 presently asserted in this case. All of these claims in
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` 10 all of the patents share terminology and Ameranth
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` 12 there is an overlap, and there's an overlap in overall
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` 13 perspective of the patents that infuses all the claims.
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` 14 Going to the next slide, 4.
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` 15 Judge Everingham recognized in his Markman
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` 16 order two years ago that there were two aspects to the
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` 17 patents. One was display on different kinds of devices
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` 22 The quote that we put up there is from Judge
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` 23 Everingham's Markman from two years ago in which he
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` 7 Next slide.
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` 8 The asserted claims are directed to -- let
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` 14 THE COURT: Mr. Osborne, were you involved
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` 16 MR. OSBORNE: Yes, I was.
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` 17 THE COURT: Was real-time urged to Judge
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` 18 Everingham as a part of a --
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` 19 MR. OSBORNE: Yes, it was.
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` 20 THE COURT: -- construction?
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` 21 MR. OSBORNE: Yes, it was, by me. We were
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` 23 THE COURT: Okay. And that was in
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` 25 MR. OSBORNE: Synchronous communications in
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` 1 the preamble, and synchronous communications in the
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` 4 THE COURT: Okay.
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` 5 MR. OSBORNE: So in addition to this first
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` 9 These claims encompass hospitality
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` 12 payment processing. These are all referred to in the
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` 13 specification. And they all, in the spirit of the
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` 14 patents, require a synchronized user interface across
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` 17 It's important to realize that this
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` 21 Capabilities and deployment were just not where they are
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` 22 today. But these patents from way back, going on 15
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` 1 On Slide 7, we have a graphic which
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` 7 overriding objective of the patents was to provide
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` 8 consistent user interfaces on these different types of
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` 10 For example, in the menu or ordering
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` 11 embodiment, the smaller the output display, the more
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` 13 And you can see this from top to bottom. To get the
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` 17 of things, not terms that are subject to these claims,
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` 23 And the point being that synchronizing the
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` 24 user interfaces means presenting the same information to
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` 6 claim construction in the prior case. These are all
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` 7 handheld screens of point of sale software licensees of
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` 9 The corresponding standard, POS -- and when
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` 25 That's what the patents were directed to in regards to
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` 4 nature of the invention. We have a central database,
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` 9 This client server system provides a mechanism which
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` 12 The current information needed by a user
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` 19 The parties agree on a number of things.
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` 20 They agree that the -- the preamble is a limitation and
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` 23 The parties agree the -- the invention is client
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` 4 internet web communication.
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` 5 The parties agree on the construction of
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` 7 computing device. And there was no dispute about web
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` 8 server. It doesn't need any construction. And note
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` 15 Claim 12 of the '850 patent covers most of
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` 16 the claim construction disputes. There are some
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` 18 those relate back to what's claimed in -- I mean, some
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` 24 Ameranth asserts that this claim and the
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` 1 interpreted in light of the intrinsic record. Our
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` 3 Every one of our proposed constructions come directly
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` 6 constructions of the same terms in other claims.
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` 8 Just pointing out, some of the issues we
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` 14 They argue that "S," quote, unquote,
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` 20 THE COURT: Mr. Osborne, it would be most
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` 23 MR. OSBORNE: Okay.
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` 24 THE COURT: So if we -- it would be helpful
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` 1 MR. OSBORNE: Understood, Your Honor.
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` 2 THE COURT: -- first term. And you can
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` 3 refer back to these when --
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` 4 MR. OSBORNE: Okay. Well, with that, why
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` 5 don't I just go directly to the -- the disputes about
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` 6 the preamble?
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` 7 THE COURT: All right.
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` 8 MR. OSBORNE: On Slide 17.
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` 9 Here are -- we just have a slide up here
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` 10 that shows the claim language, our proposed
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` 11 construction, their proposed construction. And I've
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` 12 highlighted the issues in their claim construction that
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` 13 we have issues with.
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` 14 Next, please.
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` 15 THE COURT: It -- one thing is, I know
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` 16 we're -- we're talking about a preamble here, and I --
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` 17 you mentioned that there's some agreement that it's a
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` 18 limitation, and --
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` 19 MR. OSBORNE: Yes.
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` 20 THE COURT: -- and in your terms integral.
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` 21 What -- what elements within the claim does the -- does
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` 22 the preamble provide the antecedent basis for? What --
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` 23 why -- why do you take the position that it's integral
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` 24 for --
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` 25 MR. OSBORNE: Well --
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` 1 THE COURT: -- construction of these terms?
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` 2 MR. OSBORNE: -- synchronous is a form of
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` 3 synchronized, but it's not exactly the same thing. But
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` 4 this whole clause, information management and
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` 5 synchron -- synchronous communications system for use
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` 6 with wireless handheld computing devices and the
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` 7 internet, that explains what's being done here.
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` 8 It's a system that's configured specifically
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` 9 to make use by a handheld computing device over the
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` 10 internet useable. And, for instance, for use with is --
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` 11 are three words that we highlight in our construction of
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` 12 hospitality applications. We believe that indicates
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` 13 that the hos -- hospitality applications are -- are to
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` 14 be used with something that has a user interface.
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` 15 Mr. McGuire may point to different issues
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` 16 indicate -- that -- that militate it in his mind why he
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` 17 thought the -- the preamble should be a limitation, but
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` 19 ones.
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` 20 THE COURT: All right.
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` 21 MR. OSBORNE: Slide 18, please.
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` 22 Ameranth believes that its construction is
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` 23 completely consistent with Judge Everingham's prior
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` 24 construction of analogous or near exact language in
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` 25 other claims of the same patents. Ameranth's proposal
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` 1 modifies this prior construction only slightly and only
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` 2 insofar as use with wireless handheld computing devices
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` 3 and the internet is explicitly recited in these asserted
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` 4 claims in lieu of menu which was recited in the claims
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` 5 that were asserted and construed in the prior case.
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` 6 So you take out -- take out "for use with
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` 7 wireless handheld computing devices and the internet"
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` 8 and put in "menu," and it was specifically "menu
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` 9 generation and transmission," and that's the difference
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` 10 in the preamble between the two cases.
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` 11 Par's construction is confusing. It would
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` 12 require a construction within a construction and
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` 13 includes unrecited and unrequired limitations, which we
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` 14 highlight in the prior chart.
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` 15 Par's construction relies heavily on what we
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` 16 believe are misplaced dictionary definitions of
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` 17 synchronous and communications, which were rejected by
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` 18 Judge Everingham. And they also ignore a definition on
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` 19 the same page that doesn't align -- that does align with
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` 20 the prior construction and is consistent with the
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` 21 specification.
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` 22 Specifically, Par ignored a definition in
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` 23 the Microsoft Computer Dictionary. They cited overall
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` 24 as intrinsic evidence, pertinent to handheld device
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` 25 synchronization, even though it relied on the very same
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` 1 dictionary for other things. And this is explained
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` 2 fully in the -- Ameranth's reply brief.
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` 3 Next.
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` 4 The patents describe the recited synchronous
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` 5 communication system as directed to maintenance of
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` 6 operational consistency, of user interfaces provided by
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` 7 hospitality application software. This first quote
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` 8 we've excerpted on this page shows the focus was on
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` 9 applications with specialized display and synchronous
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` 10 communications requirements on nonstandard screens --
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` 11 devices.
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` 12 Synchronous communication in the patents is
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` 13 about providing consistency throughout the system. It's
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` 14 not about clocks and timing signals. Par's reliance on
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` 16 signals is thus not applicable. And I'll point out that
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` 19 definition, we argued then that clocks and timing
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` 20 signals weren't pertinent. Our proposal for real-time
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` 21 then was based on the particular claims being asserted
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` 22 and the reality of most modern systems there, but we
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` 23 never relied on any clocks or timing signals as -- as
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` 24 Par is now.
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` 1 So a principal dispute in the construction
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` 2 of the preamble is over real-time. We put forth simply
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` 3 that a preferred embodiment cannot be read into a claim.
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` 4 Plenty of cases, Function Media from this district, hold
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` 5 that. I don't have to explain that to the Court. And
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` 6 undisputedly the specification disclose -- disclosure

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