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`Paper 115
`Entered: October 18, 2016
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`IBG LLC, INTERACTIVE BROKERS LLC,
`TRADESTATION GROUP, INC., TRADESTATION SECURITIES, INC.,
`TRADESTATION TECHNOLOGIES, INC., and IBFX, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`TRADING TECHNOLOGIES INTERNATIONAL, INC.,
`Patent Owner.
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`CBM2015-00161 (Patent No. 6,766,304 B2)1
`CBM2015-00172 (Patent No. 7,783,556 B1) 2
`CBM2015-00179 (Patent No. 7,533,056 B2)
`CBM2015-00181 (Patent No. 7,676,411 B2)
`CBM2015-00182 (Patent No. 6,772,132 B1)
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`Before MEREDITH C. PETRAVICK and JEREMY M. PLENZLER,
`Administrative Patent Judges.
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`PETRAVICK, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`
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`ORDER
`Conduct of the Proceedings
`37 C.F.R. § 42.5
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`1 Case CBM2016-00035 has been joined with this proceeding.
`2 Case CBM2016-00040 has been joined with this proceeding.
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`CBM2015-00161 (Patent No. 6,766,304 B2)
`CBM2015-00172 (Patent No. 7,783,556 B1)
`CBM2015-00179 (Patent No. 7,533,056 B2)
`CBM2015-00181 (Patent No. 7,676,411 B2)
`CBM2015-00182 (Patent No. 6,772,132 B1)
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`A conference call was held between counsel for the parties and Judges
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`Petravick and Plenzler on October 18, 2016. The purpose of the call was to
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`discuss the parties’ demonstratives for the oral hearing, scheduled for the
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`next day. This Order summarizes the call.
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`In an Order entered on September 28, 2016 (“the Oral Argument
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`Order”), we explained that demonstrative exhibits are not an opportunity to
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`add new evidence to the record or an opportunity for additional briefing.
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`Paper 110, 3–4. 3 The Order stated:
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`Demonstrative exhibits are limited to reproduction of portions
`of papers of record or portions of the evidence specifically
`discussed in the substantive papers of record. Demonstrative
`exhibits must include a citation to where the reproduced portion
`of the paper is in the record or to where the evidence is
`discussed in a substantive paper in the record.
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`Id. at 4 (“the demonstrative requirement”).
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`On October 17, 2016, the parties filed demonstrative exhibits. Exs.
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`1058, 2410. As authorized by the Oral Argument Order (id. at 4–5), the
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`parties also filed objections to the demonstrative exhibits. Papers 118, 121.
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`Both parties object to the others’ demonstratives on the basis that the
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`demonstratives do not comply with the demonstrative requirement. Id.
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`After review of the demonstrative exhibits and based upon
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`information discussed during the conference call, we determine that the
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`demonstratives do not comply with the demonstrative requirement. For
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`3 For the purposes of this Order, CBM2015-00181 is representative and all
`citations are to papers in CBM2015-00181 unless otherwise noted.
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`CBM2015-00161 (Patent No. 6,766,304 B2)
`CBM2015-00172 (Patent No. 7,783,556 B1)
`CBM2015-00179 (Patent No. 7,533,056 B2)
`CBM2015-00181 (Patent No. 7,676,411 B2)
`CBM2015-00182 (Patent No. 6,772,132 B1)
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`example, Patent Owner’s demonstrative exhibits contain pages reproducing
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`claims at issue in Federal Circuit Decisions. For example, page 74 of Patent
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`Owner’s demonstrative exhibit reproduces a claim from In re TLI Commc’ns
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`LLC Patent Litig., 823 F.3d 607 (Fed. Cir. May 16, 2016). Page 74 does not
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`include a citation to where that Decision is discussed in a substantive paper
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`in the record. Indeed, TLI Commc’ns does not appear to be discussed in any
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`substantive paper in the record.
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`During the conference call, we ordered the parties to review its
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`demonstrative exhibits and remove any material that does not comply with
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`our demonstrative requirement. The parties may replace the material with
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`corresponding reproductions of portions of the record that comply with the
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`demonstrative requirement. We authorized the parties to refile
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`demonstrative exhibits by the end of day on October 18, 2016. The refiled
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`demonstrative exhibits must comply with the demonstrative requirement and
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`any other applicable requirements provided for in our Rules.
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`Along with the refiled demonstrative exhibits, lead counsel for the
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`parties must certify that the new demonstrative exhibits are limited to
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`reproduction of portions of papers of record or portions of the evidence
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`specifically discussed in the substantive papers of record and the new
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`demonstrative exhibits include correct citations to where the reproduced
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`portions of the paper is in the record or to where the evidence is discussed in
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`a substantive paper in the record.
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`Should a party determine upon review that the originally filed
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`demonstrative exhibits comply with the demonstrative requirement, lead
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`CBM2015-00161 (Patent No. 6,766,304 B2)
`CBM2015-00172 (Patent No. 7,783,556 B1)
`CBM2015-00179 (Patent No. 7,533,056 B2)
`CBM2015-00181 (Patent No. 7,676,411 B2)
`CBM2015-00182 (Patent No. 6,772,132 B1)
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`counsel for the party must certify that the original demonstrative exhibits are
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`limited to reproduction of portions of papers of record or portions of the
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`evidence specifically discussed in the substantive papers of record and the
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`original demonstrative exhibits include correct citations to where the
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`reproduced portions of the papers is in the record or to where the evidence is
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`discussed in a substantive paper in the record.
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`The originally filed demonstrative exhibits will be expunged from the
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`record, unless the certification described above is filed by the end of day on
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`October 18, 2016. See 37 C.F.R. § 7(a).
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`As stated in our Oral Argument Order, “[t]he parties are not permitted
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`to raise new arguments or evidence at oral hearing.” Office Patent Trial
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`Practice Guide, 77 Fed. Reg. 48,756, 48,768 (Aug. 14, 2012). Any new
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`arguments or evidence will not be considered. If a party desires to bring a
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`new argument, evidence, or authority to our attention, the party should
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`contact us at the trials@uspto.gov box to request authorization, for example,
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`to file supplemental information, supplemental briefing, or a notice of
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`additional authority, as appropriate under our Rules. See 37 C.F.R. §§
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`42.20, 42.223.
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`Additional housekeeping matters were also addressed during the
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`conference call. First, Patent Owner sent an email to the trials@uspto.gov
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`box requesting to permission to use multiple computers during the oral
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`hearings. We indicated that Patent Owner may use multiple computers.
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`Second, with regards to CBM2015-00181 and CBM2015-00182,
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`Petitioner sent an email to the trials@uspto.gov box informing us of a
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`CBM2015-00161 (Patent No. 6,766,304 B2)
`CBM2015-00172 (Patent No. 7,783,556 B1)
`CBM2015-00179 (Patent No. 7,533,056 B2)
`CBM2015-00181 (Patent No. 7,676,411 B2)
`CBM2015-00182 (Patent No. 6,772,132 B1)
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`typographical error in the Petitioner’s Replies. In several places in these
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`Replies, Petitioners mistakenly refer to Exhibit 2233 to refer to the group of
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`traders’ declarations that Patent Owner filed as Exhibit 2223. We noted the
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`correction.
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`It is so ORDERED.
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`PETITIONERS:
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`Michael T. Rosato
`Matthew A. Argenti
`WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI
`mrosato@wsgr.com
`margenti@wsgr.com
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`Robert Sokohl
`Lori Gordon
`Jonathan Strang
`Richard Bemben
`STERN, KESSLER, GOLDSTEIN & FOX
`Rsokohl-ptab@skgf.com
`Lgordon-ptab@skgf.com
`Jstrang-ptab@skgf.com
`Rbemben-ptab@skgf.com
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`CBM2015-00161 (Patent No. 6,766,304 B2)
`CBM2015-00172 (Patent No. 7,783,556 B1)
`CBM2015-00179 (Patent No. 7,533,056 B2)
`CBM2015-00181 (Patent No. 7,676,411 B2)
`CBM2015-00182 (Patent No. 6,772,132 B1)
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`Erika H. Arner
`Joshua L. Goldberg
`Kevin D. Rodkey
`Rachel L. Emsley
`FINNEGAN, HENDERSON, FARABOW,
`GARRET & DUNNER, LLP
`erika.arner@finnegan.com
`joshua.goldberg@finnegan.com
`kevin.rodkey@finnegan.com
`rache.emsley@finnegan.com
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`Steven F. Borsand
`TRADING TECHNOLOGIES INTERNATIONAL, INC.
`tt-patent-cbm@tradingtechnologies.com
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