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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`IBG LLC, INTERACTIVE BROKERS LLC,
`TRADESTATION GROUP INC., TRADESTATION SECURITIES, INC.,
`TRADESTATION TECHNOLOGIES, INC., and IBFX, INC.,
`Petitioners
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`TRADING TECHNOLOGIES INTERNATIONAL, INC.,
`Patent Owner
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`CBM2015–00182
`Patent 6,772,132
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`PETITIONERS’ OBJECTIONS TO
`PATENT OWNER’S DEMONSTRATIVES
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`Mail Stop “PATENT BOARD”
`Patent Trial and Appeal Board
`U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
`P.O. Box 1450
`Alexandria, VA 22313-1450
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`CBM2015–00182
`Patent No. 6,772,132
`On October 12, 2016, pursuant to the Board’s September 28, 2016 Order
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`(Paper 101), TT served 89 demonstrative slides on Petitioners for use at the oral
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`argument in this proceeding. As set forth in Petitioners’ detailed objections below,
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`the majority of TT’s slides rely on evidence never cited or specifically addressed in
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`any paper before the Board, do not properly cite their evidence, and/or present new
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`arguments. Petitioners meet and conferred with TT regarding Petitioners’
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`objections on Monday, October 17, 2016.
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`Demonstrative Slide 8
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`Petitioners object to TT’s demonstrative slide 8 because of the second bullet.
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`Copy of the objected-to portion:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: the second bullet
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`mischaracterizes Petitioners’ petitions, i.e., TT mischaracterizes the record.
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`Demonstrative Slide 10
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 10 because of:
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`(1) the title;
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`(2) the reproduction of portions of Petitioners’ ’411 petition; and
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`(3) the reproduction of portions of Mr. Román’s Declaration.
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`Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Title:
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`Cite to ’411 petition:
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`Cite to Mr. Román’s Declaration:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper in which TT made the argument in the title of the slide.
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`Demonstrative Slide 11
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 11 because of its reproduction
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`of portions of pages 2 and 6 of Belden.
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`Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper that cite pages 2 and 6 of Belden.
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`Demonstrative Slide 12
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 12 because of:
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`(1) the title;
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`(2) the reproduction of Mr. Román’s testimony; and
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`(3) the second bullet.
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`Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Title:
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`Mr. Román’s testimony:
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`Second bullet:
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`Petitioners object for the following reasons:
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`(1) the title mischaracterizes Mr. Román’s testimony (i.e.,
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`mischaracterizes the record);
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`(2) this slide does not cite to TT’s POR or any other paper in which TT
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`made the argument in the title;
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`(3) this slide does not cite to TT’s POR or any other paper that cites
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`Ex.2166 at 176:8-12 or 178:21-179:8; and
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`(4) this slide does not cite to TT’s POR or any other paper in which TT
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`made the argument in the second bullet.
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`Demonstrative Slide 19
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 19 because of the first bullet.
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`Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper in which TT made this argument.
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`Demonstrative Slide 20
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 20 because of the first bullet.
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`Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper in which TT made this argument.
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`Demonstrative Slide 23
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 23 because of:
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`(1) the title; and
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`(2) the quote from eSpeed case.
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`Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Title:
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`Quote from eSpeed case:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper in which TT relied on the eSpeed case to advance the
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`argument in the title, i.e., TT is advancing a new argument.
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`Demonstrative Slide 25
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 25 because of:
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`(1) the title; and
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`(2) the reproduction of ¶¶ 36-37 of Ex. 2171.
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` Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Title:
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`Reproduction of Ex. 2171, ¶¶ 36-37:
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`Petitioners object for the following reasons:
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`(1) this slide does not cite to TT’s POR or any other paper in which TT
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`relied on ¶ 36 of Ex. 2171; and
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`(2) this slide does not cite to TT’s POR or any other paper in which TT
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`relied on ¶¶ 36-37 of Ex. 2171 to support the argument advanced in
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`the title, i.e., TT is advancing a new argument.
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`Demonstrative Slide 26
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 26 because of:
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`(3) the title; and
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`(4) the reproduction of Ex. 2234.
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`Title:
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`Reproduction of Ex. 2234:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper in which TT relied on 2234 to support the argument
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`advanced in the title, i.e., TT is advancing a new argument.
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`Demonstrative Slide 29
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 29 because of the first bullet.
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`Copy of the objected-to portion:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: the first bullet mischaracterizes
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`Mr. Román’s testimony (i.e., mischaracterizes the record).
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`Demonstrative Slide 30
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 30 because of the first bullet.
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`Copy of the objected-to portion:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: the first bullet mischaracterizes
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`Mr. Román’s testimony (i.e., mischaracterizes the record).
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`Demonstrative Slide 40
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 40 because of the title.
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`Copy of the objected-to portion:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper in which TT advanced this argument.
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`Demonstrative Slide 41
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 41 because of its reproduction
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`of the quote from J.T. Eaton.
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`Copy of the objected-to portion:
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`Petitioners object for the following reasons: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper in which TT relied on J.T. Eaton to advance the argument
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`on this slide, i.e., TT is improperly attempting to use this slide to provide
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`additional briefing.
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`Demonstrative Slide 42
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 42 because of:
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`(1) the annotation, “Introduction of MD Trader”; and
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`(2) the reproduction of ¶ 23 of Ex. 2173.
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`Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Annotation:
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`¶23 of Ex. 2173
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`Petitioners object for the following reasons:
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`(1) this slide does not cite to TT’s POR or any other paper in which TT
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`advanced the argument in the annotation; and
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`(2) this slide does not cite to TT’s POR or any other paper in which TT
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`relied on ¶ 23 of Ex. 2173 to support the argument advanced in the
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`slide.
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`Demonstrative Slide 44
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 44, in its entirety, because this
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`slide does not cite to TT’s POR or any other paper in which TT advanced this
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`argument.
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`Demonstrative Slide 45
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 45 because of the second bullet.
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`Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper in which TT advanced this argument.
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`Demonstrative Slide 51
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 51, in its entirety, because this
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`slide does not cite to TT’s POR or any other paper in which TT advanced this
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`argument.
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`Demonstrative Slide 54
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 54 because of the first bullet.
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`Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Petitioners object for the following reasons: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper in which TT advanced this argument and the first bullet
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`mischaracterizes Mr. Román’s testimony (i.e., mischaracterizes the record).
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`Demonstrative Slide 55
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 55 because of the first bullet.
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`Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper in which TT advanced these arguments.
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`Demonstrative Slide 59
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slide 59 because of the title.
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`Copy of the objected-to portions:
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`Petitioners object for the following reason: this slide does not cite to TT’s
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`POR or any other paper in which TT advanced these arguments.
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`Demonstrative Slides 70, 74-75, 78-85
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`Petitioners object to TT demonstrative slides 70, 74-75, and 78-85, each in
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`its entirety, because these slides do not cite to TT’s POR or any other paper in
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`which TT advanced these arguments, and TT is improperly attempting to use this
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`slide as an additional opportunity for briefing.
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`These objections are made at least two business days before the October 19,
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`2016 oral hearing.
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`Date: October 17, 2016
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`1100 New York Avenue, N.W.
`Washington, D.C. 20005–3934
`(202) 371–2600
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`STERNE, KESSLER, GOLDSTEIN & FOX P.L.L.C.
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`/ Robert Sokohl/
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`Robert E. Sokohl (Reg. No. 36,013)
`Lori A. Gordon (Reg. No. 50,633)
`Richard M. Bemben (Reg. No. 68,658)
`Attorneys for Petitioners
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE (37 C.F.R. § 42.6(e))
`The undersigned hereby certifies that the foregoing PETITIONERS’
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`OBJECTIONS TO PATENT OWNER’S DEMONSTRATIVES was served
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`electronically via e–mail on October 17, 2016, in its entirety on Attorneys for
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`Patent Owner:
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`Erika H. Arner, Joshua L. Goldberg, Kevin D. Rodkey,
`Rachel L. Emsley, Cory C. Bell
`FINNEGAN, HENDERSON, FARABOW, GARRETT & DUNNER, LLP
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`Erika.arner@finnegan.com
`Joshua.goldberg@finnegan.com
`Kevin.rodkey@finnegan.com
`Rachel.emsley@finnegan.com
`Cory.bell@finnegan.com
`Trading–Tech–CBM@finnegan.com
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`Steven F. Borsand
`TRADING TECHNOLOGIES INTERNATIONAL, INC.
`tt–patent–cbm@tradingtechnologies.com
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`Michael D. Gannon, Leif R. Sigmond, Jr., and Jennifer M. Kurcz
`MCDONNELL BOEHNEN HULBERT & BERGHOFF LLP
`gannon@mbhb.com
`sigmond@mbhb.com
`kurcz@mbhb.com
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`STERNE, KESSLER, GOLDSTEIN & FOX P.L.L.C.
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`Date: October 17, 2016
`1100 New York Avenue, N.W.
`Washington, D.C. 20005–3934
`(202) 371–2600
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`/ Robert Sokohl/
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`Robert E. Sokohl (Reg. No. 36,013)
`Lori A. Gordon (Reg. No. 50,633)
`Richard M. Bemben (Reg. No. 68,658)
`Attorneys for Petitioners
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