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` BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`TRADESTATION GROUP, INC., |
` Petitioner, | Case CBM2015-00161
` v. | Patent 6,766,304
`TRADING TECHNOLOGIES |
`INTERNATIONAL, INC., |
` Patent Owner. |
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` Thursday, September 10, 2015
` 12:59 p.m. EST
` Teleconference before the Patent Trial and Appeal
`Board, Judge Meredith C. Petravick presiding, the
`proceedings being recorded stenographically by
`Cynthia J. Conforti, CSR, CRR, (License 084-003064)
`of the State of Illinois, and transcribed under her
`direction.
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` A P P E A R A N C E S O F C O U N S E L:
` (All participants appearing by phone)
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`On behalf of the Patent Trial and Appeal
`Board:
` MEREDITH C. PETRAVICK, ESQ.,
` PHILLIP J. HOFFMANN, ESQ.,
` SALLY MEDLEY, ESQ.,
` Administrative Patent Judges
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`On behalf of Petitioner TradeStation Group,
`Inc:
` JOHN C. PHILLIPS, ESQ.
` Fish & Richardson
` 12390 El Camino Real
` San Diego, California 92130
` 858.678.5070
` phillips@fr.com
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`A P P E A R A N C E S O F C O U N S E L
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`On behalf of Patent Owner Trading Technologies
`International, Inc.:
` ERIKA HARMON ARNER, ESQ.
` Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett &
` Dunner, LLP
` Two Freedom Square
` 11955 Freedom Drive
` Reston, Virginia 20190-5675
` (571) 203-2700
` erika.arner@finnegan.com
` -and-
` CORY C. BELL, ESQ.
` RACHEL L. EMSLEY, ESQ.
` Two Seaport Lane
` Boston, MA 02210-2001
` 617.646.1600
` cory.bell@finnegan.com
` rachel.emsley@finnegan.com
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`A P P E A R A N C E S O F C O U N S E L
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` KEVIN D. RODKEY, ESQ.
` 3500 SunTrust Plaza
` 303 Peachtree Street, NE
` Atlanta, Georgia 30308-3263
` 404.653.6400
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`ALSO PRESENT:
` Adam Kessel, Esq., Fish & Richardson
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` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Good afternoon.
`This is Judge Petravick. With me on the phone
`are Judge Medley and Judge Hoffmann.
` This is a conference call for
`CBM2015-00161.
` Is there counsel on the line for
`Patent Owner?
` MR. RODKEY: Yes, your Honor.
`Counsel for Patent Owner is here. This is
`Kevin Rodkey. With me is Erika Arner, Cory
`Bell and Rachel Emsley.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Is there counsel
`for Petitioner?
` MR. KESSEL: There is. I think
`our lead counsel may be muted. This is Adam
`Kessel for Tradestation. John?
` John Phillips is on the line, I
`believe.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Mr. Phillips,
`are you on the line?
` MR. KESSEL: I wonder if he's got
`a different dial-in. We spoke just a few
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`minutes ago, and he was dialing in and --
` MR. PHILLIPS: Sorry. John
`Phillips for Petitioner is here.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Great. Is
`anybody else on the line?
` THE REPORTER: The court reporter
`is here on the line, Cynthia Conforti.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: I'm sorry.
`Could you say that again?
` THE REPORTER: This is the court
`reporter.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Thank you. And
`did Patent Owner or Petitioner arrange for the
`court reporter?
` MR. RODKEY: Patent Owner arranged
`for the court reporter.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: All right.
`Patent Owner, as you requested the call
`regarding an additional discovery issue, we'll
`hear from you first.
` MR. RODKEY: Thank you, your
`Honor.
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` Patent Owner is requesting this
`call because we are seeking authorization to
`file a motion to determine whether all their
`parties in interest have been named in this
`petition.
` As you're well aware, CQG
`previously filed petitions on the same patent,
`but the Board denied those petitions because
`CQG had previously filed a declaratory judgment
`action.
` The Petitioner in this case and
`CQG have admitted to the District Court in the
`Northern District of Illinois that they are
`coordinating with the filing of petitions and
`dividing up petitions, and we believe that that
`coordination and the coordination of Petitioner
`and CQG makes CQG a real party in interest.
` So we are seeking authorization to
`file a motion for additional discovery to
`obtain the communications between CQG and the
`Petitioner, which we understand will show that
`CQG is the real party in interest in this case.
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` And we understand that this is
`decided under the Bloomberg factors, and we
`believe that those Bloomberg factors are met
`here. There's more than a possibility or
`allegation.
` As I said, the Petitioner's
`already admitted that they and CQG are
`coordinating the filing of these petitions to
`the District Court. And the petition that was
`filed by Petitioner is essentially a
`substantive clone of CQG's petition that was
`denied, which is admitted in the petition at
`page 4.
` The Petitioner also just used
`CQG's expert report, didn't make any changes to
`that, which means that CQG has basically funded
`the expert and preparation of this petition,
`which is contrary to Petitioner's statement
`about real party in interest.
` And we think our discovery
`requests are fairly narrow. Like I said, we're
`looking for the communications between
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`Petitioner and CQG. We're not seeking their
`litigation petition. And this creates good
`cause for us to seek this additional discovery
`so that we can set forth our arguments in our
`preliminary response.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Can you tell me
`a little bit more about the admissions
`vis-à-vis the court about the coordination?
`How did that come about?
` MR. RODKEY: Yes, your Honor.
`That came up in two briefs that were filed
`jointly by CQG and by TradeStation at the
`District Court.
` They have already been filed in
`this proceeding. They're Exhibits 2002 and
`2003 filed by Patent Owner. And the statements
`that are in them are in Exhibit 2002.
` Both CQG and the Petitioner signed
`on to the statement in the brief that says:
` "Given recent developments, the
`Defendants, CQG and the Petitioner,
`respectfully request a short period of time to
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`coordinate on the PTAB action."
` The PTAB actions are the filings
`which have begun taking place including this
`proceeding here. So in that they're admitting
`that all the defendants are coordinating to
`prepare this petition.
` Then in Exhibit 2003 at page 8,
`they say:
` "For CQG's part it is preparing to
`file ECMR Petitions on the '411, '374, '768 and
`the '724 patents in the next several weeks."
` So they're also admitting to how
`they divided up the petition, and CQG is taking
`as its part in this petition of patents at
`least these four patents that are mentioned in
`Exhibit 2003.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Okay. One more
`question.
` Do you have any court cases
`which -- do you know of any case of ours that
`has discussed whether the parties that are
`coordinating are real parties in interest?
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` MR. RODKEY: Yes, your Honor. So
`one of those cases is the RPX v. Virnetx case.
`There's several of them actually. They're
`IPRs 2014, 172 to 177, and in those cases Apple
`basically suggested that the petitioner RPX
`file petitions on patents that Apple wanted to
`have under IPR and under post grant review.
` What the Board decided in those
`decisions was that by merely suggesting that
`RPX file on certain petitions Apple became the
`real party in interest.
` And we believe that's what's
`happening here is CQG knows that it's barred
`because the Board has already denied CQG's
`positions under 325. And, therefore, there's a
`suggestion that the current Petitioner should
`file on the '304 patent which it's already
`done. That suggestion makes CQG a real party
`in interest.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Thank you.
` Petitioner, we'll hear from you
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` MR. PHILLIPS: Okay. Thank you.
`Start there with the Vir- -- how do you
`pronounce it, Virnet -- Virnex -- Virnetx?
` That was completely different.
`That was Apple telling the Petitioner to file
`the petition. And they didn't, so that's
`completely different here.
` In this case it's simply
`coordinated efforts between now three,
`originally four, defendants. There's 16
`patents at issue here, so -- that are being
`asserted by Patent Owner, so understandably
`there's going to be a joint defense group.
` And the relevant cases have all
`held that simply because you have a joint
`defense group or coordinating efforts, that
`does not create the privities or real parties
`in interest.
` There's also no question that in
`at least one case that CQG and the Petitioner
`in this case have cooperated. We filed for
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`the -- CBM petition for the '056 patent. We
`can see that. We don't deny it.
` So to the extent that the Patent
`Owner's seeking discovery on cooperative
`efforts on a petition, it's public record, and
`they don't need discovery of that fact. It's
`publicly available.
` In terms of having the same
`petition in a declaration filed is evidence of
`RPI. That exact argument was raised and
`rejected by the Court in the JPMorgan case
`that's directly on point.
` And the argument that they're not
`seeking litigation positions is specious.
`They're necessarily seeking litigation
`positions. The discovery requests that they
`sent us, which they did not provide to the
`Board, I notice, are asking for all
`communications between us and CQG on any and
`all petitions, any post-grant proceedings filed
`or anticipated on any PT patent all -- all in
`agreement on litigation filings as well,
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`regardless of whether they're -- and they're
`all either work product or attorney-client
`privilege. That's part of the common interest
`agreement between the parties.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: I'm sorry. Were
`you reading the request to me?
` MR. PHILLIPS: Well, I can.
`They're pretty -- they're somewhat lengthy.
`Would you like me to read them? They are not
`that lengthy.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Not if it's
`lengthy. Maybe give me the flavor of it.
` MR. PHILLIPS: I'm sorry. You're
`breaking up.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Yes. Can you
`hear me?
` MR. PHILLIPS: You're breaking up
`a little bit.
` So there's basically two of them.
` So: "All communications
`agreements between TradeStation and CQG
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`post grant proceedings (filed or anticipated)
`of any PT patent or other documents referencing
`such communications and agreements between
`TradeStation and CQG." That's the first one.
` And: "All court documents,
`including briefs and hearing transcripts,
`discussing CQG or TradeStation in any
`post-grant proceeding filed or anticipated of
`any PT patent."
` Those are necessarily broader than
`just this proceeding, the 304 proceeding, and
`are looking for things that aren't public.
`They're communications between the joint
`defense group that are attorney-client
`privilege or work product effective.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Was the second
`one limited to court filings instead of being
`filed in court already?
` MR. PHILLIPS: I can't tell, not
`by its terms. Including briefs and hearing
`transcripts. It says "filed or anticipated."
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`you with a question. Please go on.
` MR. PHILLIPS: I think I've
`responded to all the points. Hold on one sec,
`please. Checking my notes.
` So, in short, we are aware of -- I
`guess a couple other points.
` We're -- as set forth in our brief
`starting at page 4, we explained all the
`reasons that there's no RPI or privity here,
`and we're fully aware of the fact that there
`could have been estoppel if we had coordinated
`or cooperated or accepted any input or funding
`from CQG, and we took steps not to do that. We
`would have been idiots to do so.
` The input for this -- in this
`proceeding, which is the relevant inquiry, was
`solely from Petitioner's counsel and no one
`else. No one else had any input on it except
`for the original publicly available filing
`which JPMorgan case says is perfectly
`acceptable to them.
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` MR. PHILLIPS: I guess that's it.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Thank you.
` Patent Owner, would you like to
`briefly respond?
` MR. RODKEY: Yes. I'll be brief
`about this.
` First, and you can check this, I
`believe the RPI cases on joint defense say that
`the mere participation in the joint defense
`group doesn't necessarily create a real party
`in interest. However, that's different from
`the situation we have here where the parties
`are actively coordinating with one another.
` As far as the JPMorgan case goes,
`it's a different set of facts. Basically what
`the -- the Board found in JPMorgan was that the
`original declaratory judgment plaintiff, can't
`be named, no longer had any interest in the
`proceeding because they have settled out and
`had withdrawn from the joint defense group.
` Here CQG is very much having
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`interest in the patent, so part of the joint
`defense group, as Petitioner's counsel just
`said, they filed a new petition jointly with
`current Petitioner here and actually had a
`rehearing request on the denied petition they
`filed earlier this year.
` And the mere fact that Petitioner
`and CQG are already working together on this
`petition they just filed further suggests
`evidence that they are coordinating on these
`petitions and that they're working together to
`divide them up.
` So the communications between them
`would in fact point to the real party in
`interest if they are actively deciding on these
`petitions and deciding how they want to file
`them, particularly which one to file which one.
` The Virnetx case does point it
`out, as CQG was -- made a suggestion that
`Petitioner actually do the filing for the
`patent because CQG is barred.
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`privilege goes, as far as we know, CQG is not a
`client of Petitioner's counsel so there is no
`attorney-client privilege there.
` Whether or not this is work
`product, there is an exception to the Work
`Product Doctrine. If -- whether or not we need
`to find the information to prepare a defense
`and whether or not we can obtain it by any
`other means. Both of those prongs are met
`here.
` Our defense is
`real-party-in-interest defense, and without the
`communications between them we cannot develop
`the information about that
`real-party-in-interest defense, and there's no
`other substantive way to get it for us because
`those communications are communications with
`CQG. We're not a party to that. We don't have
`any ability to obtain the communications.
` So the work product defense would
`not come out or would not preclude us from
`getting these documents here.
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` JUDGE PETRAVICK: All right.
`Thank you. I'm going -- just one more
`question.
` When is your preliminary response
`due?
` MR. RODKEY: Preliminary response
`is due at the end of October, I believe
`October 26th or 29th.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: All right.
`Thank you.
` I'm going to take a minute to
`consult with my colleagues. I'd like you to
`stay on the line, please.
` (Panel consultation.)
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: This is Judge
`Petravick. Is counsel for Patent Owner still
`there?
` MR. RODKEY: Yes, your Honor,
`Patent Owner's counsel here.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: And is counsel
`for Petitioner?
` MR. PHILLIPS: Yes, your Honor.
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` JUDGE PETRAVICK: The panel has
`considered the information on the phone call,
`and we are going to authorize a motion for --
`to seek additional discovery.
` Given the time frame we would like
`the motion filed by Wednesday, the 16th.
` Is that date acceptable to you,
`Patent Owner?
` MR. RODKEY: Yes, it is, your
`Honor.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: And then we will
`authorize an opposition and would like that
`filed by Monday, the 21st.
` Is that acceptable to you? Hello?
` MR. PHILLIPS: Yes, that's
`acceptable.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: All right. We
`will not be authorizing a reply at this time.
`If we need additional information, we will ask
`for it. We are going to limit the -- to
`15 pages. All right.
` Are there any other questions?
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`opposition is also 15 pages?
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Yes.
` THE REPORTER: Excuse me. This is
`the court reporter. It doesn't sound like
`there's any other questions. May I just take a
`roll call to be sure that I have everybody who
`is present?
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Yes. Just give
`us one more minute, please.
` THE REPORTER: Thank you.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: I would also
`like to tell you that I will memorialize this
`call in an order which we will send out
`shortly. Please do note your time frame starts
`from today.
` All right. Court reporter, if
`you'd like to do your roll call.
` Counsel for Patent Owner could you
`please state your name?
` MR. RODKEY: Yes. Counsel for
`Patent Owner is Kevin Rodkey, R-O-D-K-E-Y,
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`A-R-N-E-R, Rachel Emsley, E-M-S-L-E-Y, and Cory
`Bell, C-O-R-Y, B-E-L-L.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Counsel for
`Petitioner?
` MR. PHILLIPS: John Philips,
`J-O-H-N, P-H-I-L-L-I-P-S.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Was there
`additional counsel for Petitioner?
` MR. PHILLIPS: He's not of record.
`But, I'm sorry, go ahead.
` MR. KESSEL: Yes. I believe
`several of the other counsel are also not of
`record.
` This is Adam Kessel, K-E-S-S-E-L.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Mr. Kessel,
`you're not of record in the case? You're not
`backup relief counsel? Could you please
`explain your relationship to the case?
` MR. KESSEL: I represent the
`Petitioner in litigation, which I believe is
`true with some of the counsel for Patent Owner.
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`last hearing in this matter.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: All right. My
`name is Judge Petravick, P-E-T-R-A-V-I-C-K.
`There's Judge Medley, M-E-D-L-E-Y, and Judge
`Hoffmann, H-O-F-F-M-A-N-N.
` Patent Owner, do you have any
`problems with counsel being on the phone call?
` MR. RODKEY: No, that's fine for
`Patent Owner.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Thank you. All
`right. Then we are -- this call is adjourned.
`Thank you. Bye-bye.
` MR. RODKEY: Thank you, your
`Honor.
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`CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
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`I, Cynthia J.
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`Conforti, Registered
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`Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and
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`the
`for the State of Illinois, County of Cook,
`officer before whom the proceedings were taken,
`do hereby certify that the foregoing transcript
`is a true and correct record of these
`proceedings;
`that said proceedings were taken
`in Stenotype notes by me on the 10th day of
`September, 2015, commencing at 12:59 p.m. and
`ending at 1:22 p.m.
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`I further certify that present on behalf of
`Petitioner Tradestation Group,
`Inc. were John
`C. Phillips, Esq. and Adam Kessel, Esq. of
`Fish & Richardson and present on behalf of
`Patent Owner Trading Technologies
`International,
`Inc. were Kevin D. Rodkey, Esq.,
`Rachel L. Emsley, Esq., Erika Harmon Arner,
`Esq., and Cory C. Bell, Esq. of Finnegan,
`Henderson, Farabow, Dunner, LLP.
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`am not related to,
`I
`I further certify that
`nor associated with any of the parties or their
`attorneys, nor do I have any disqualifying
`interest, personal or financial within.
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`‘Dated this 11th day of September 2015 at
`Cook County, Illinois.
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`REPORTER'S SEAL
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`OFFICIL SEAL
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`NOTARY PUBLIC - STATE OF ILLINOIS
`MY COMMISSION EXPIRES MAY 12, 2019
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